I agree. People are trained now that only a sucker would pay for porn. Even PK, the queen of webmasters, is out selling diet books now (or whatever). Probably because porn sales have slowed down so much for affiliates.

I'm seeing big sites move away from selling membership sites and really push the cams and supplements, etc.

My prediction:
1. We will see less new content because there is less money to be made in making it.
2. The sites that are out there will update less and less because there's less money being made.

But I also predicted Hillary Clinton would win in a landslide, so what do I know :winkwink:

I hit the wrong key. Guilty you got me.

Working on it. :thumbsup

Automate the third world chat-agent's job?

That's like having cyber-sex with a cartoon.

cam robo sex? Entertaining to consider; AI cam models but without the human aspect -- it would turn out to be a novelty. The robo models would all speak perfect English as a female Anonymous voice. Being emotionless, their feelings would never get hurt, they would never cry inside, while chatters threw them tokens worth $.05 to them and made demands. In a perfect world ...

:thumbsup

Me too. December was incredible for VR sales for us. Overall we have done about 10x beyond my optimistic projections. This is a new world that will be very porn friendly. VR is going to absolutely pop this year. :thumbsup

You really don't know what you are talking about with either one of these. Just so you know.

I've been running an online chat bot since 2000. It was mostly just dumb entertainment for the first 10 years, but it turned more serious (and more dirty) after that. It's now intended to be more of a person simulator, rather than "robot chat."

If you're sceptical about chatting with a computer it will never work - you can break the illusion instantly by typing something outlandish and noting that it replies as if what you said was normal - but otherwise, it seems to work quite well. It did over 2 million chats in 2016.

I'm imagining something like this:

Initially, there's simple visual augmentation of the camgirl. Want the nipple a bit larger and a slightly different shade? A different eye or hair colour? The curve of the breast a little larger or smaller? More or less pubic hair? Software running somewhere between the webcam and the customer's screen changes the vision appropriately. This could do really well with fetishy customers that have slightly odd tastes, like excessive body hair, or wanting girls with pink hair.

Perhaps the same augmentation could be done, to a lesser extent, with the sound.

Now the beauty of this is that as well as changing the source material to suit the customer's desires, the system also learns about how to change it, and through supervised and unsupervised learning, becomes better and better at it. The system also learns how girls move, what they do, etc. At some point, the system becomes sophisticated enough that it's replacing a large number of pixels, almost drawing the camgirl from scratch in a totally realistic way........and then one day, it will. :thumbsup

How much do you think people will pay to chat once the figure out it's a bot. I think it might be good for the 3rd world > make them pay 3 rupees a min. It's a low cost novelty. Maybe, an interesting brand builder, a lead robot but definitely not a profit center.

See my sentence above about being sceptical. Based on my experience, a person thinking "pfft this is a robot" is more likely to be the exception, rather than the rule. For most people, especially those that are horny and looking for a fix, close enough may be good enough.

My chat bot has the word "bot" in its domain name, and has a picture of a robot on every page, yet phrases like "i just came" or "i just orgasmed" get entered by users several times per day. It also gets asked if it is a real person.

Fitty Horny Predictions :pimp

Then I share your skepticism. How much did the robot get paid? < that is my point

"^ profit center"

?? I thought we were discussing whether people would consider a "reasonable facsimile" of a real camgirl sufficiently satisfying. Based on my experience, a text chat bot can already achieve this. Realistic vision is going to be harder, but full synthesis is inevitable at some point.

Also worth considering, a computer program is probably going to cost a lot less to run than a camgirl. :2 cents:

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

AG gets aggressive and the right talks about girls still in high school doing porn.

They should work under security of datas

Here's what I said.

"VR will be acclaimed as the new saviour, then go down in flames. Too expensive to get right. And too cheap to make an attempt.

Continued decline in revenues from paysites."

I assumed that people could fill in the dots and see sense. But for you I will explain the problems. The cost of getting it spot on in production will be so high the additional sign ups won't warrant the extra expense. Too cheap and everyone and their brother will have it and it will be like HD on every site.

The biggest problem is free VR porn.

kickass.cd/usearch/VR%20porn/

extratorrent.cc/search/?search=VR+porn&new=1&x=55&y=18

pornhub.com/video/search?search=virtual+reality+sex

It's hardly begun and already people can download it for free. Even if it is the next great event, why pay when it's everywhere for free?

And that's why porn's income will continue to drop as it has done for years. Dating is dropping as it's moving over to apps like Tinder and Grinder. Cams will drop for most in the industry as it moves over to independent girls who will market themselves personally a lot better than dumping traffic on a site and hoping.

It's been a great fun ride for most of us and I've enjoyed every moment and made enough to not work. But the problem is the future will be harder and the only ones who will survive are those who have something that can't be given away and paid for by ad revenue.

Neither of you get it.

The present and future is real girls who really speak the language of the client and market themselves as themselves. Using Third World girls with someone typing for them or bots can't compete.

At the moment you will claim to make good money and tell us everything is getting better. In truth, you're not and the competition is getting stronger. You can't out market a girl marketing herself.

Paul, you're fucking joke! Show us some sales numbers or stfu!

Paul the world renowned troll rides in on his dinosaur and once again predicts the future of the world ...

https://s30.postimg.org/r1hj2p1pd/ma...saur_rider.png

Mr. Ustabe rides again ...

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh ...

the ass will win over the boobs.

Traffic on free tubes shows all you need to know.

And I'm just stating what has been happening for the last 8 years.

Again no argument to show I'm wrong. Just flim-flam.

I stopped arguing with doorknobs a long time ago Paul.
You sir pale in the light of doorknobs.

Apple and XBox both release their VR google solutions

folks looking for VR content to watch on their headsets

Webmaster Central clients deliver the VR content to their members and make a lot of money

VRBallers.com partners make a lot of money promoting VR3000

I have a crazy relapse that winds up with me getting arrested at the White House trying to punch trump in the face

2017 in a nutshell

You have no argument. The porn industry has been in decline for years. Or are you going to say it's not?

You're just a plank of wood controlled by a door knob.

You are complaining about the content on Motherless whilst your sig has a link to incest content ?

My prediction is that the regs that are coming to the UK will spread to the US and the rest of the major porn consuming nations. When it does you will all be squealing about how awful it is when you really have no one else to blame.

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

VR and anal sex.

And hopefully a lot of money for everyone here ;)

If those regulations bite it will be good for the porn industry. The lack of regulation and control has made things terrible.

But I am doing this right now and what I am telling you is that you are wrong. Your explanation is simple and you are only considering one demographic. Cheap people whose main deciding factor when it comes to porn is the cost. Other demos exist. Until you understand that you will never get it.

Here is an example. I love to eat, but when I am in Vegas I never go to a buffet. Why, because I desire and can afford, quality and service. It is about segmenting the market. :thumbsup

I wish making porn and doing cams was legal in China and India ...

I'd be interested in your current solution & direction / discuss some sort of partnership perhaps. Can you hit me up at johnnyredwind gmail with your "bot" domain? We might be able to utilise it on our sites. (i do have a none googlemail address if you are wondering ;D)

To conclude, at best, 2017 will be as bad as 2016 but chances are good that it will be worst... :stoned