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OneHungLo 01-06-2017 09:24 AM

What's russia's post-oil future besides nesting dolls? Exporting Ladas? Wall rugs?

http://i.imgur.com/2AlZHJA.jpg

Bladewire 01-06-2017 09:29 AM


Nitzer Ebb 01-06-2017 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21431101)
A cold, a gloomy, a boring as shit ... supplies the EU with natural gas and oil.


This looks very exciting. :1orglaugh

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uXOWCjXROeY/maxresdefault.jpg
https://media1.britannica.com/eb-med...4-1536E186.jpg

PS: Sorry you can't get visa in to Norway. We only want first class tourists coming in. Visa free.

just a punk 01-06-2017 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 21431119)

Have I told you to stop posting my personal images?

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Originally Posted by Nitzer Ebb (Post 21431131)
PS: Sorry you can't get visa in to Norway. We only want first class tourists coming in. Visa free.

Are you drunk or what? A normal guy says: "I have bought a ticket to Pattaya/Las Vegas/Havana/Maldives/Kemer/Dubai to spend my vacation..." and some moron with a brain damage adds: "Uhh, that's so usual and boring. I wanted to go to... Norway but I was unable to get a visa to that shiny paradise :(" Can you imagine that?

Вот жеж идиот, блять :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Nitzer Ebb 01-06-2017 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 21431119)
What's russia's post-oil future besides nesting dolls? Exporting Ladas? Wall rugs?

http://i.imgur.com/2AlZHJA.jpg

Dumb Russian suggests its pocket size rocket engines, atomic bombs and some sort of IT.
I have never seen anything "IT" coming out of Russia. I know a lot of smart people run away from there leaving the dumb crowd behind.

just a punk 01-06-2017 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Nitzer Ebb (Post 21431140)
I have never seen anything "IT" coming out of Russia.

Open your eyes, clown. A half of GFY is talking about some magical Russian super-duper evil IT genius who have hacked a whole America. Yeah... not a whole, but at least they stole Christmas and... the elections! :1orglaugh

http://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc...g?v=1475872061

VRPdommy 01-06-2017 09:51 AM

Worldwide, OIL is traded in US Dollars. So when you want to buy OPEC oil, you need Dollars to do it.

When the price of OIL goes up, so does the need for DOLLARS. Hence the higher demand for Dollars brings the valuation up against currency's that need to buy them. Whenever the future price expectation for OIL is HIGHER, everyone buy's more DOLLARS in advance of that to save on future exchange rates.

OIL is just about the only thing keeping the RUSSIAN Government afloat. The only other thing they export of any significance is VODKA and Military ARMS. Putin had told it's people that the US and Saudi's had conspired to deflate the cost of oil to ruin his government when in reality it was the decreased demand from China and increased production from the US and other nations including the Saudi's who do not want to give up market share. No matter the price, we are awash in OIL.

The price of it has not been about supply and demand for some time. Just expectations of it that are easily manipulated from the reality on the ground by Investment Banks that play oil.
Morgan Stanly is probably the largest oil trader in the world. Indirectly owning the most storage facilities and tankers that sometimes act as oil storage facilities.

Since Russia is non-OPEC nation, their OIL becomes more attractive when the cost of the DOLLAR goes up as do all non-opec oil exporting nations raising the value of their currency.
But oil is not the only thing effecting these markets.

Shortly after the US went off the GOLD STANDARD, the agreement was made to tie the price of OIL to the DOLLAR and has had the effect of backing the currency.
And is why Russia, Iran and a few other adversary nations have wanted to change that standard for the last 12 or more years. Even though it has provided currency stabilization of all the world including those that now oppose it.

I would remind those that think the US is OIL independent that we still import a lot of OIL.
Trump, and EXXON-MOBILE want more of it to come from RUSSIA. So they want to relax the sanctions imposed on Russia from their invasion of Crimea (and other things) that would allow that to take place.

Some of those charts posted in this thread actually contradict what the author is trying to point out. You need to understand both the currency and energy markets to draw conclusions from them. Take them with a grain of salt or a barrel of pepper... ...LOL...

Regardless of what you think of Trump, Putin or the currency exchange rates, name calling is not going to change how the things about to transpire are going to effect you and I will say, many are in for a rude awakening. Calling names or belittlement of anyone is not going to help you change that fact.
You better get serious about your future.

just a punk 01-06-2017 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 21431185)
You better get serious about your future.

My future is not glued to natural gas and oil. I can make my coin in any place of this planet (course if it's connected to the internet ;)). As about Russia, so it already started to trade with China in rubles and yuans.

VRPdommy 01-06-2017 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21431209)
My future is not glued to natural gas and oil. I can make my coin in any place of this planet (course if it's connected to the internet ;)). As about Russia, so it already started to trade with China in rubles and yuans.

Well I'm glad for you. But you better hope your customers are just as immune.
Funny how interdependent the world is now-a-days !

Barry-xlovecam 01-06-2017 10:42 AM

Nice analysis VRPdommy however ... The petro economy is past its half-life.

Apply Moore's Law to the alt-energy movement and oil loses its critical importance if things continue to pan out.

I think that Natural Gas will be the primary fossil fuel used in heating. Crude oil will become a byproduct -- used for lubricants and base chemicals -- not as a fuel.

Trump and Exxon or Putin nor OPEC cannot turn back the hands of time -- only stall the inevitable :2 cents:

Sarn 01-06-2017 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21430990)
When did you ever trust the US? :1orglaugh

Of Course yes! :1orglaugh
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Originally Posted by Nitzer Ebb (Post 21431095)
We do not need to reinvent the wheel to be successful nation. On other hand, you can't figure shit out for centuries. :1orglaugh 4% inflation is super high for Norway. 30% inflation for Russia is a repetitive factor. Our quality of live is always in top 10 of the world. Russia is not cracking up 100. Enjoy your nesting dolls and Ladas, silly russian.

:1orglaugh

just a punk 01-06-2017 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21431350)
Nice analysis VRPdommy however ... The petro economy is past its half-life.

You didn't read the thread's title? I said that ruble is strongly tied up to the oil price. It never been a secret to anyone. I've just mentioned that a stupid donkey (you have used to call him Mr. president) have told that his "sanctions" left Russia's economy 'in tatters'. An animal doesn't realize that a country which shares about 3% of Russian import/export can not affect our economics.

femdomdestiny 01-06-2017 12:08 PM

Holly shit, this is still on.

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Originally Posted by Nitzer Ebb (Post 21431140)
I have never seen anything "IT" coming out of Russia. I know a lot of smart people run away from there leaving the dumb crowd behind.

How so? Didn't their hackers just decided who is the president of the USA? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Russia is probably the only country in the world that could survive on their own even if the rest of the world stop to exist. These "sanctions" just made them sober and will speed up transition in self-sufficient system. I can remember when they were giving MIGs in exchange for the wheat back in 80's.

Look at them now : https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...arvest-exports

Rivers, seas, mountains, oil, gas, diamonds, fish, animals, woods, and unexplored reserves of gas and oil. Incredibly big country and vast expanses mixed with the history that learned them to resist to any kind of conquer (and to survive). Small neighboring countries can just bark on their borders and thank god they are patient and pretty peaceful.

Horatio Caine 01-06-2017 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 21431584)
Holly shit, this is still on.



How so? Didn't their hackers just decided who is the president of the USA? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Russia is probably the only country in the world that could survive on their own even if the rest of the world stop to exist. These "sanctions" just made them sober and will speed up transition in self-sufficient system. I can remember when they were giving MIGs in exchange for the wheat back in 80's.

Look at them now : https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...arvest-exports

Rivers, seas, mountains, oil, gas, diamonds, fish, animals, woods, and unexplored reserves of gas and oil. Incredibly big country and vast expanses mixed with the history that learned them to resist to any kind of conquer (and to survive). Small neighboring countries can just bark on their borders and thank god they are patient and pretty peaceful.

Exactly. All of those available resources yet drunk and corrupted Russians can't find how to utilize them. Botswana and Serbia can survive on its own too. Starved and thirsty but will survive.

Horatio Caine 01-06-2017 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21431179)
Open your eyes, clown. A half of GFY is talking about some magical Russian super-duper evil IT genius who have hacked a whole America. Yeah... not a whole, but at least they stole Christmas and... the elections! :1orglaugh

http://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc...g?v=1475872061

That's not IT you dumb fuck. Having few bright minds working for government isn't it. Even North Koreans can do that.

Horatio Caine 01-06-2017 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21431209)
My future is not glued to natural gas and oil. I can make my coin in any place of this planet (course if it's connected to the internet ;)). As about Russia, so it already started to trade with China in rubles and yuans.

Yuans - yes. Rubles... Lol.. no-one wants that shit. Putin had plans issuing government bonds in Chinese currency because no one trusts or wants your shitty ruble.

femdomdestiny 01-06-2017 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 21431605)
Exactly. All of those available resources yet drunk and corrupted Russians can't find how to utilize them. Botswana and Serbia can survive on its own too. Starved and thirsty but will survive.

Obviously, you are missing the point of term "surviving" here but that's nothing new for you.

Anyway, why spending time and nerves? just leave them and watch them decaying. They don't have nothing, they are stupid, corrupted and once oil stops to be important, they will go back to the middle ages. How cool is that?

If that is not fast enough, other honest, moral, smart, advanced and non-corrupted countries can always try to speed the process, just like Napoleon or Hitler did. :thumbsup

So just relax, they are irrelevant in the world :)

Sarn 01-06-2017 12:42 PM

Obama must go ))

https://img.gazeta.ru/files3/797/104...x505-42597.jpg
http://rusvesna.su/sites/default/fil...a_admirale.jpg

just a punk 01-06-2017 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 21431629)
If that is not fast enough, other honest, moral, smart, advanced and non-corrupted countries can always try to speed the process, just like Napoleon or Hitler did.

Many have tried...



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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 21431614)
That's not IT you dumb fuck.

That is IT, mother fucker. The "I" and the "T" just as it spells. Open your dictionary and start learning English already.

BTW, are you going to pay your lost bet? Trump has won, so where is the money, loser?

klinton 01-06-2017 03:44 PM

cyberseo stop trolling and advertising your plugin !! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:winkwink::winkwink:

can't you just be more polite if you want to sell it ? :P

just a punk 01-06-2017 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21432073)
cyberseo stop trolling and advertising your plugin !! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:winkwink::winkwink:

can't you just be more polite if you want to sell it ? :P

1) Every real webmaster here has already bought it (clown's who can't pay for the lost bets don't count).

2) Adult industry is dead, so 90% of my sales today are coming from mainstream resources ;) Here is the real time counter of sites that use my plugin right now: cyberseo.net. AYCS, I can buy a small tropical island with aborigines to play in "Civilization" with them :winkwink:

As about to stop...

http://ct.fra.bz/ol/fz/sw/i52/5/5/12...sht-d887b9.jpg

klinton 01-06-2017 04:37 PM

any cool mainstream affiliate programs that:
a) dont have shitty CPA offers that look more like scams
b) are normally easy to join as a publisher/affiliate - not waiting and begging to be part of it...

share some links:winkwink:
clickbank, shareasale, moreniche, ADSENSE (haha) - I already know them....
unless of course you mean that 90 % of your money comes from cyberseo sales ;-):winkwink:
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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21432097)
2) Adult industry is dead, so 90% of my sales today are coming from mainstream resources ;) Here is the real time counter of sites that use my plugin right now: cyberseo.net. AYCS, I can buy a small tropical island with aborigines to play in "Civilization" with them :winkwink:


just a punk 01-06-2017 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21432169)
share some links

WordPress.org

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21432169)
unless of course you mean that 90 % of your money comes from cyberseo sales ;-):winkwink:

I'm not an idiot and I know how to use my own script on my own sites :winkwink:

P.S. When I said "sales", I meant only sales of the plugin of course.

klinton 01-06-2017 05:44 PM

wordpress.org ? over there I will find some affiliate programs ? okk...
you mean that you meant NOT ONLY sales of plugin ? ok understood

You seem to be really high in outter space tonight on your private Lunochod, what time it is in Moscow NOW like 4 morning? how is the weather ? minus 30 ? craziness !
goodnight !:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21432178)
WordPress.org



I'm not an idiot and I know how to use my own script on my own sites :winkwink:

P.S. When I said "sales", I meant only sales of the plugin of course.


just a punk 01-06-2017 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21432286)
wordpress.org ? over there I will find some affiliate programs ?

Please re-read my post above. Carefully ;)

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21432286)
You seem to be really high in outter space tonight on your private Lunochod, what time it is in Moscow NOW like 4 morning? how is the weather ? minus 30 ? craziness !

Almost -30C outside, but I have a window opened and working in shorts - the central heating system makes a tropical heat in da house.

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21432286)
goodnight !:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Thanks, I'll try. The insomnia is a bitch :(


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