It would save the US and Americans a lot of money to build the Wall. Making Mexico pay for it is easy, stop giving them money and start charging Mexico for imports.

Not giving them money would be easy. Charging them for imports is a lot more complex. Look at it like this. Say a company makes a product. That product is assembled here in the US and the company employs 500 people. The company uses parts that come from Mexico. If we slap a fat tax on Mexican goods the cost of making that product will go up and the company's profits and sales will likely go down. The owner of that company may find themselves needing to come up with a way to save money so they decide to get rid of as many of those 500 people as they can and replace them with robots.

Raising the cost of goods coming in from other countries will only work if those goods have competitors that are completely US made because if they aren't the cost and price of those goods will go up, but wage will likely not rise to keep up with that increase. It could end up being very bad for our economy.

It could work, but we would have to go back to being a country where we produced every little part used in making products here and if it comes to that they will use robots and not people.

Keep this in mind. Mexico will not be paying for anything and it's ridiculous that there's any discussion about it.

Trump is talking out of his ass, which is where most of his speech comes from. Almost everything he says is a fleeting thought.

It's the same thing as if Trump said "You know, all of the bears at all of the the zoos will be trained to mine for gold hidden by bigfoot under the Empire State Building". The idiots who worship him will believe it.

So you would rather pay less, increase companies profits than save the US.

This is the biggest problem ATM. The West is exporting jobs, importing cheap labour and automating what's left at an unprecedented rate. The end result will be 100s of millions unemployed or on low wages and relying on the State for support, and debts that will cripple us. But the 1% will be very very rich, not that they will be contributing to the running of the country as they will reside in countries that don't tax them.

In the future, it will be of real importance where those factories using robots are based and where they pay taxes. At the moment there's nothing to stop them being based outside the West and contributing nothing to the costs of running the West.

To stop us from questioning this policy they give cheap toys.

We either go back to being the World's production centre we were or we decline. That's already in motion. How much of our debts are to support the present policy?

A countries economy means nothing if the people are poorer. Especially if Government revenue relies on what all the people have in their pockets. And an industry that might need bailing out in the future.

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This is happening at the moment.

Americans are already paying a lot because of the useless migration controls. They pay via taxes/spending, low wages, jobs, crime and social services.

The idea that illegal migrants can get an SSC, driving license, medical care, schooling, etc. Is only to benefit those with large labour forces or property giants.

Getting Mexico to pay for it is possible. But probably won't happen because Americans don't want to pay more to protect America.

I am sitting in a leather high-back office desk chair made in Mexico by (for) an American company that I bought for only $230 six years ago. I don't want to pay $400+ for my next one. I need a new one ...

Paying $900 for an iPhone and putting an American to work at a menial task is not my priority.

The future jobs are not on the assembly line making goods that can be made for less outside of the country. 1960 ain't never coming back.

There are jobs in the development of new technology to be had. Jobs in construction, infrastructure upgrades, jobs that have to be done on the site (in situ). Jobs for dullards in old industries just are not needed.

We cannot export low skilled workers because the third world is full of them.

When goods cross borders in trade -- armies do not cross borders for war :2 cents:

Paul you went to school in England?
Emigrate means to leave one's country to live in another. Immigrate is to come into another country to live permanently. Migrate is to move, like bird in the winter. The choice between emigrate,immigrate, and migrate depends on the sentence's point of view.

Quit fucking up the language --English is your first language ...

Unless you meant short-term immigrants or immigration :)

It's a tightrope that they will have to walk. Keep the tariff too low and it won't have any real effect. Make it too high and it will cause problems for American companies that use imported parts to make their products.

In the end, it really doesn't matter. Robots and automation will be replacing all low wage/simple jobs. Like you say, what will matter then is where those companies are located and who they pay taxes to. Too high of a tariff and those companies will take their robots elsewhere.

Didn't you say Trump would win 49 states or some non-sense like that?

When Hillary is in jail and mexico has reimbursed a wall that covers the entire boarder (his two main campaign talking points) I will come in here and give you guys credit. Until then you are just a Trump apologist and support him no matter what he says/does

That problem is easily solved. They make the parts in the US or a country that has a balanced trade deal in manufactured goods.

Will the present location and high tariffs to countries they sell to effect which plants they automate?

Too high tariffs and they daren't take their companies elsewhere.

At the moment the EU and US are the two biggest markets and instead of protecting those markets and jobs both Governments have put them into a continual decline. China dare not go into a trade war, it can't afford to. When the US adopted an isolationist policy, it relied on the world for exports. Now China does. If not stopped it won't in 10-20 years time.

Imagine a lower GDP with more goods produced in the US by US workers with decent paying jobs. At the moment see how GDP is calculated and see how it relates to manufacturing in the US. The EU is putting itself into a similar boat. It's threatening to cut off it's biggest market, while actively seeking other markets outside the EU that are worse and taking 9 years to get a deal.

The next step would be tax havens. A simple rule that tax havens have to be home for a real head office which employs more people than the country they based in. This stops people like Google from dodging taxes that go toward running the countries they rely on for sales. What Trump offers won't do the trick. My idea would.

The problem is it will never happen while big corporations buy our governments.

You live in a world of denial and fantasy.