Show us the evidence.

Maybe you don't get UK news.

You actually say "If this is true" because there's no real evidence and the investigator couldn't find it.

As you say nothing is verified and they're "working on it".

Don't let your mind run away with you, because your liberal brainwashing tells you to.

You never read this stuff do you? You read a few lines then make up your mind to what ever you already believe..

He wasn't being paid.. After he realized the scope of what he was finding, he stopped turning stuff over to Hillary's campaign or the Anti-Trump Republicans, who ever he was working for at that time. He then kept working on this with out pay and turned the info directly over to his contact in the FBI and then MI6.

Also this report isn't the only one. There are other groups which were digging up info on Trump. A second group has come forward claiming they found dirty info about Trump and handed it over to the FBI before the election. They are claiming the FBI also sat on their intel doing nothing with it.

There are other reports out there and some back up this info and have other things as well. Trump will go down over this and heads will likely roll in the FBI if Comey tried to cover it up. There are still unanswered questions as to why Rudy Giuliani knew about the FBI investigation of Hillary before it was released. Someone in the FBI obviously leaked it to him..

Steele and the other group are both claiming Comeny and the New York FBI office had very close ties to Giuliani and that's the reason they sat on the reports doing nothing. This is why Reid directly called Comeny's office out prior to the election because he knew they were sitting on this info. Reid was on the special intelligence committee in Congress and knew this stuff was out there.

It's all a house of cards and it will tumble down. Far too many people already know there is smoke & fire. It will find it's way out.

The time line of all this stuff is slowly falling into place and backing up each story. You can choose to pretend it's not real or you can look at stuff and see that things are not right with this. Who knows how much of these reports are real or can be verified, but what's clear is more than one group was finding bad info on Trump and the FBI seemed to do nothing with it for reasons unknown at this time to the public.

I don't think it's a sex tape.. A guy like Trump wouldn't give a shit about a sex tape unless he has a really small dick..:1orglaugh

Honestly the only way Trump would be scared of a sex tape, is if it involved underage children or was gay sex. If it was just hookers he wouldn't give a shit because it would pump up his ego.. It wouldn't really shake any of his base or get him impeached. The religious right doesn't like him as it is they just voted for him because he was Republican..

If they are blackmailing him, it's something to do with dirty business deals laundering money or gay/underage sex. Shit that could actually get him put in jail.

As someone else said, you have a serious case of Republican victimization. You constantly blame everyone else for Trump's issues except for Trump.

If Trump didn't act like a child, people wouldn't be calling him out. If Trump wasn't blatantly appointing people with zero experience to top level jobs all because they are his cronies, no one would be calling him out. If Trump wasn't making 180 degree turn around on his claims then people would be calling him out. If Trump didn't outright lie daily, people wouldn't be calling him out.

You are blinded by your almost religious convictions to the right wing. You hate everything liberal therefore everything Trump does is ok because you can blame liberals for his crucifixion. You never look at the fact he is responsible for his child-like actions which stir up this constant drama..

This simple fact is in a single week.. Trump has more unanswered scandles than Obama had in 8 fucking years. Yet you are ok with this, because "blame liberals".

Bingo :thumbsup:thumbsup

Actually Robbie I'm going to use your very excuse as to why people are giving Trump a bad time. You claimed over and over again that the reason Obama couldn't get the Republicans to do anything in Congress was because he was a "bad leader". This was your standard answer for 8 years here on GFY..

Well right back at you. The reason Trump is surrounded in scandal and no one likes him is because he's a "bad leader".

So you want to blame his approval rating on everyone other than Trump? I am sure his approval rating has nothing to do with his war with our own intelligence agencies, or his putting completely unqualified people into office such as Ben Carson running HUD although he has never even remotely worked in this area. He is licking Putin's ball sack while pissing off China.

Robbie, my eyes are open wide. Last night while I was sleeping our government secretly voted to remove my health benefits. Another win for Trump.

You're pretty funny Paul :1orglaugh

Following your logic you're the kind of guy who read the news of China building islands out of sand bars in the South China sea and thought they had the best intentions.

You dodge bullets if you can Paul, you don't let them hit you before deciding if they'll hurt you.

That's why I blocked him, a huge amount of wasted energy researching facts, pasting links and his response is litterally cut/paste alt-right with only links to RT.com and brand new fake news sites, he can't even back anything up with Fox News. He loves Russia. A guy from Tennessee loves Russia despite our political environment, imagine that ;) He defies Tennessee political polls with his stances, as well as logic :1orglaugh

Trump: I could 'shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters'

Onwebcam is a waste of time, he's in his safe space and will defend Trump until the day he dies. He likely has a Trump tattoo and is too committed to the cause to turn back.

You could hand him a gold bar, but because it came from you he'd know it wasn't gold. He'd take it to the pawn shop and they'd verify it's gold, and he'd deny it. He'd trade it in for cash and walk out thinking he got one over on the pawn shop owner. That's OnWebcam. A waste of time and energy.

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1. It's not "approval ratings"...it's Job Approval from a new poll (one of the many polls that were proved completely wrong this year).
He hasn't taken office yet, and we don't know how that poll is weighted between Republicans and Democrats.
My guess is all the Democratic voted 0 and all the Republicans in the poll voted 100.

2. Consider doing what I do and pay for your own healthcare and stop waiting for somebody else to take care of you. You make a good salary don't you?
Then shouldn't that money be spent for people who actually are in real need?

What polls do you consider valid? What are they named?

That's a great question. I don't have any answer to it.

During the campaign I kept seeing all these polls saying Trump was losing in a landslide. And I wondered "how?" when he is drawing huge crowds and seems to be saying the things that working people wanted to hear.

So I looked at a CNN Poll. Clicked on the details of the poll.
Found out that they had only polled 500 people! And the poll was "weighted" by 11 points of Democrat respondents.
So it gave Hillary a 7 point lead in the election.

I posted here on GFY about that, and wondered how on Earth that could be representative of a diverse country of over 320 Million people.

Turns out it isn't at all.

Checked some of the other polls and found the same thing. They all polled 500 to 1,500 people. And they didn't reveal WHERE the people lived.

You know...if you only polled people in California...Trump's "job approval rating" would be negative 10. lol

So I really don't know the answer.
I think polling is probably a lot like using Alexa to figure out traffic of other sites.
It might give you a general idea...but it's not always correct.

On Trump's numbers...my guess is if you polled blue collar workers in the Rust Belt (the states that won him the Presidency) say Pittsburgh, PA. You would see vastly different numbers than you would see in the inner city of Philadelphia, PA

But who knows what predetermined result a pollster is looking for and the geographical areas of the country they choose to get the result they kind of wanted in the first place.

My guess is that Trump's own pollsters could get results showing him at 100% if they wanted to.
And a polling company that has people in it that oppose Republicans could get results showing him doing poorly.

It seems like everything is politicized. Probably always has been. But now with the internet, we the people are seeing it for ourselves instead of having things filtered to us from the news media.

Well Hillary won by 3 Million votes, 2% over Trump. So the polls saying she's won the vote were correct.

The problem is Comey shook everything up with his announcement 8 days before voting, and during mail in voting, so any polls before that were off. The call the swing states that for a reason and they swung for Trump after Comey :2 cents:

Anyway thankfully that's all over! I take polls with a grain of salt but don't invalidate them if they don't agree with what I want to hear, only if they are wildly off 5 or 6 other polls.

We all know she won in a landslide in New York and California. Millions and millions of votes advantage in those two areas.

But that's what I'm saying...the polls didn't accurately reflect the rest of the states.
And the election proved it.

Winning Pennsylvania was huge. But he lost the city of Philadelphia in a landslide. Won the rest of the state.

So you can't base a national election on regional voting. It has to reflect all the states (as we know).

So yeah...the polling WAS correct because that's the people the polling company's probably poll. New York and California is where the media is based in and both LA and NYC consider themselves to be THE center of the universe (and in a lot of ways they are).

And I agree...I think we need to take them with a grain of salt. They show us an idea of where things might be. But only 500 to 1,500 people polled and we have no idea WHERE the people who were polled live or their political persuasion making it difficult to judge a poll's validity.

The entire media...ALL of them including Fox News thought that Hillary was winning in a landslide because of polls.

I heard Van Jones on CNN the other day saying that they (the media) need to stop depending on polls and start getting people out of the bubble and into the heartland to talk to the real working people across the country.

Well like I said, the election is over.

What could Trump do that would disapoint you?

What do you not want to see Trump do?

What could he do that would cause you great concern? Starting conflict in the South China sea? Lifting sanctions on Putin?

He wouldn't be starting conflict in the South China Sea. That would be China doing that.
I hope that he's able to show strength and then negotiate.
The perception of strength is admired in many cultures (including our own).

If he can get Putin to play ball with the U.S. in a big way...then yeah, lift the sanctions. Pres. Obama would do no differently...and in fact entered the White House 8 years ago determined to forge a friendship with Putin (it just didn't work out).

As far as disappointment... I'd have to give that a few years to see what happens. Just like I did personally when Obama took office (I voted for him).

Anything he does in the first couple of years that doesn't jibe with his campaign promises, I would attribute to him being in a position to see more intel and have a clearer picture of things.

But those would be details and it would need a couple of years to see if what he assesses is correct or not.

His overall economic message is the one I voted on. And I don't see why anyone would not want to have companies repatriate trillions in cash and bring jobs back to the U.S.

I read that APPLE is actually considering moving production of the IPhone to the U.S.!!!!
And all the "experts" said it couldn't be done.
They are weighing out the savings that will come their way in tax relief and better regulations in their decision.

Plus there are a long list of companies already moving money and jobs back after speaking with Trump. It's almost daily now that new ones are announcing it.

You have to search for it, because the media is not reporting on it at the moment. You know how the media is. They latch on to a handful of stories...and pretend that nothing else is happening in the world.

Right now they are only reporting on Pres. Obama and Michelle's last days in office with feel good fluff pieces; covering the confirmation hearings, and spending hours and hours talking to EACH OTHER in their panels about Russia. lol

This is why I take Robbie about as seriously as I take JoushaMo..

He always deflects and talks about everything "but" the the subject matter. He knows he can't defend Trump's actions but Trump's actions don't bother Robbie because it's all ok as long as he's not liberal/democrat..

This is why Robbie is rambling on about polls and not Trump's connections to Russia and the constant lies/bad choices.. It's distract, distract, distract, deny, deny, deny..


BTW the Senate is opening up a new probe on connections to Russia from election staff..

Intelligence panel to examine possible campaign links with Russia, senators say - CBS News

The fucked part is it's a "secret" committee which means we will likely never see much of the real info, they will just sugar coat it and make excuses. Democrats are trying to push for a bi-partition open investigation but as typical Republicans want to keep it all secret..

Meanwhile Republicans had no issues publicly airing the Benghazi investigations and Hillary's email.. I think it's getting close to time to start burning down some houses.. If they are open about this stuff then fine, but if Republicans try to sweep this under the rug I for one will be heading to DC to start doing my civic duty and saying no to these fucks..

Right like Chaffetz threatening to close the Office of Government Ethics in his letter last week, or the GOP voting behind closed doors ANONYMOUSLY to shut down Office of Congressional Ethics.

One might think Republicans have an ethics issue.

Trump clearly has a Putin problem.

and more just came out..

The CIA has been investigating allegations of Trump's team being paid by the Russians. The investigation started in late 2016 when an un-named "Baltic state" forwarded a phone recording of someone in Trump's team setting up a payment with the Kremlin.

The CIA has obtained a warrant from the FISA court to intercept transactions from the Russian bank and it apparently also related to 3 of Trump's associates but not Trump himself at that time. It was granted 3 weeks before election day meaning this is a pretty new investigation considering the time line of other events..

According to the article, the current status of the investigation is unknown..

Trump Russia dossier claims investigated by US counterintel in 2016 - Business Insider

the BBC article..

Trump 'compromising' claims: How and why did we get here? - BBC News

From the BBC article about the sex tape and the money, much more in depth.

"Later, I used an intermediary to pass some questions to active duty CIA officers dealing with the case file - they would not speak to me directly. I got a message back that there was "more than one tape", "audio and video", on "more than one date", in "more than one place" - in the Ritz-Carlton in Moscow and also in St Petersburg - and that the material was "of a sexual nature".


So much smoke... getting hard for the deniers to claim there isn't a fire.. The CIA doesn't get warrants with out reason...

Interesting that the FISA warrant comes up again it was reported back in November and the reason it was requested first was because Carter Page ( Trumps foreign policy advisor, oh and oil industry consultant ) making a trip to Moscow 1 week before the DNC was hacked.

The second FISA, that was granted in October, was because of the server at Trump tower communicating with Russian banks.

EXCLUSIVE: FBI ?Granted FISA Warrant? Covering Trump Camp?s Ties To Russia 11/7/2016

Robbie, you seem to not be paying attention, Trump isn't getting Putin to play ball.. Putin is fist grabbing Trumps balls and squeezing them nice and tight.... Everything Trump is doing is a "one way" street. Notice Trump has only been talking about things "for" Russia to "benefit" Russia, but nothing about what Russia will do for us..

What Russia is doing for "us" is holding Trump's balls tight...ie Trump is wanting to do all this shit so Russia doesn't out him.. This only ends one way.. Trump getting outed which is slowly happening with all these leaks..

I notice you still ignore all this and continue to cry about Obama..

4chan trolled the fuck out of CIA.

They leaked bullshit info to Rick Wilson, a GOP political strategist., who in turn sent it to CIA. And the idiots compiled a 35 page intelligence report :1orglaugh

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media...wqky5ybtup.png

Of course Buzzfeed (who broke the story) are gonna say now that it's all fake, cause they can't lose face.

You obviously have no grasp on what is going on. We are way beyond the single report and the FBI at this point. You believe some idiot on 4Chan because that's what you want to believe and you have no grasp on reality or are extremely un-informed.

There are multiple reports out there. The 35 page report was not created by a 4chan idiot, he changed a few things on an existing report and it got linked around the internet. That's not the report the FBI/CIA are using..

You should actually read some of the articles and follow whats going on before you get trolled by 4chan idiots again..

the BBC article I linked a few posts back gives a very good run down of the events as we know them so far.

edit here is the link.. Trump 'compromising' claims: How and why did we get here? - BBC News

If you can read that article and the info it contains and still think some idiot from 4chan was behind it, you are not very smart.

Umm that's a lie.

You didn't read the 35 pages.

The real life x MI6 agent, Chris Steele, got the intel over months and compiled the dossier. Now he's in hiding. Educate yourself.

Christopher Steele, Former MI6 Agent Who Reportedly Assembled Trump Dossier, Appears To Be In Hiding : The Two-Way : NPR

Same shit new day ...
 

Robbie, seriously, what the fuck? It's Trump's approval ratings. It's the president elect approval ratings. When ever we discuss the approval ratings for the president (or the president elect) we do not stop everything and have a discussion about if it is weighted between one party or the other. Listen very carefully when I say this - the approval ratings are the approval ratings. Period.

It's just like the unemployment rate. The unemployment rate is the unemployment rate. It's the same exact figure we've used since I was born. When the official unemployment rate is 4.6%, it means the unemployment rate is 4.6%. It doesn't mean we need to have a discussion about people who are under employed or people who are no longer looking for employment blah blah blah. The unemployment rate is the unemployment rate. Period.

Trump is the lowest approval rating of any President elect. Get used to it because it's not going to get better.

Gallup: Trump has low approval rating to begin presidency - Business Insider

What is Russia going to do for the US?

We can start with knocking it the fuck off with Ukraine, because no one doesn't believe Russia isn't behind that. Then we can quickly follow up with Crimea.

Anyone here believe Russia is going to give up Crimea?

It must be true if someone on a message board said it was true, right?

It does seem that there are more than one report about Trump's ties to Russia, and it also seems the FBI / CIA was investing this long before it became public knowledge. Funny how the FBI didn't mention it.

Trump intends to recognize Crimea as Russian.. Yet another thing "Trump" is bending over to do for Russia with "nothing" in return. Trump also plans to remove the sanctions, with nothing in return..

Congress a few days ago was trying to pass a veto proof bills which would stop Trump from being about to end the sanctions and also make it illegal for him to recognize Russian ownership of Crimea.

Trump literally is an enemy of our state, to the point a Republican controlled congress is going out of it's way to make sure he can't undermine the US.

I'm not sure if they are still going to follow through with it or not.

It's becoming crystal clear as to why Putin wanted Trump elected. The centerpiece of this whole fucked up situation is the half trillion dollar Exxon/Rofsnet deal which is parked until sanctions are lifted. Once compromised president dumbass and his oil baron secretary of State are installed, things can move forward and Putin can add to his coffers.

Didn't you hear? The FBI is full of Trump fanboys.

If this doesn't get resolved in a week, no one will ever pay attention to it again.

The Republican party has blamed the "loss" of Crimea on Obama, but now this problem falls on Trump's lap. He needs to fix this. Being as he is so friendly with Putin and gets along with them, this should be an easy fix and a quick win for a new administration.