Stop stealing brian!

the time I've wasted in setting up the order and having to escalate paypal to get a refund is definitely annoying.

whatever the outcome I'll never again engage in any type of transaction of any sort with the OP or his other handle Brian8377

having to chase someone down for a few bills is...pathetic. whatever his chaotic home situation may be, really not an ok way to treat people and def indicative of both solvency and character

too bad

When I start my thread tomorrow feel free to jump in with your experiences. Let's stop this guy and recover whatever we can.

Give us the deets!

Details, including emails, will be in the upcoming thread if Brian doesn't make good on this deal. Stay tuned...

holy shit, $1800, should be on your doorstep at least within 24hr latest :Oh crap

I didn't realize there was a thread going about this.

I have also filed a PayPal dispute, no drive or returned money, only excuses.

Feel free to chime in tomorrow with your experiences when I post the thread. I'm hoping I don't have to...

Monday bump

i'm outta here..

This is very unfortunate. I hope you can make it up to the good (to say the least) GFY peeps involved, Brian.

such a shame he got me too :(

This Brian guy has always been a scammer/troller

.... I wish i seen this thread sooner, i'd have warned you guys :Oh crap

How did he scam before?

I thought it was a red flag he wouldn't give any URL's

I dont remember... but read back his postings shows how shitty of a person he is.

Yes and thought it was too good to be true.

Who in their right fucking frame of mind thinks this kind of content is worth $1 a scene?

HD, BG, BGG, GG, GGG, GGGG, solo masturbation, Anal, creampie, blowjob, facial. At $1 a scene. Common sense should have told you it was worth a lot more. An idiot could have made a lot more out of it on C4S and Adult Centro.

Easy to spot the greedy guys here who didn't think.

The final proof that none of you thinks too hard and Brian is conning you. What group of girls sell scenes for $1 and give Brian a cut? Brian knows if this was real he could make more money out of it.

Where did you warn anyone it was too good to be true?

All I see is you bragging "I told you so" without ever saying it's too good to be true.

What good is your knowledge here if you don't use it to protect people and help them?

I tell people all the time to make it money up front and this was too much content for too little money.

bulk order, why not...

not exclusive though.


I´ve a couple of nice scenes, bathroom & bed of Tanya Cox & a model Tiffany, we´re looking to sell. Probably ask 50 a scene & they will be sold again at that kind of fee.

Exclusive´s usually $200 to $1500 each depending the niche :2 cents:

$50 a scene is a long way from $1. Even if sold in bulk. It's a con from the start.

Magic join links anyone?? Paul is good like that.

That you can't grasp there are many viable scenarios in which someone would sell at that price (including any such person being an idiot, and/or not knowing about C4S/AC, or ALSO selling on C4S/AC), is no great surprise given your past demonstrations of myopic thinking.

'greedy guys'... so, only people who 'don't think' would buy let's say... collectible stamps from a guy who is well known, been around a long time, has no previous visible signs of scamming; because he is e.g. in the shit and needs money from a surplus supply that he can replicate at any time? That also isn't his primary source of income.

Yeah, people looking to pick up bargains are 'greedy' lol. I've picked up tons on here over the years, especially in the last few years where non-exclusive content has plummeted in value. Amount of times scammed = this one time (and tbh I don't think it is actually a scam, just poorly thought out, and a fuck-up of putting things right). If low price = 100% scam, how come it's a rare event, relative to the amount of content sold on here?

Now, if an actual content producer selling his main wares suddenly slashed prices and started offering cut-price bargain basement deals, that would definitely raise flags. It's why I would buy from someone like Stefan G, but wouldn't buy from - oh I don't know, some has-been guy scrambling for cash and slashing prices across the board in 'last ever sale' sales every other month.

Though I will hold my hands up - I most definitely am guilty of not doing my own due diligence on this one, instead relying on just a cursory look at the seller. For $220 the only risk is time lost. Win some, lose some, let others know as is ethically correct, and move on. Oh, missed a step: reply to hindsight-enabled 'I told you so' replies whereby the I-told-you so's never actually happened.

This was a classic con-job. Making 'deals' with camgirls.

which was mentioned prior to the sale... where? I'd like to read that post in this thread to see why I missed it, thanks :thumbsup

15 years in the cam business told me -- you can't get that reading a GFY thread.

Paypal, Western Union same shit. Caveat Emptor. You're lucky you only got clipped for $200 :2 cents:

right, so the part though where you knew from being in the cam biz, that in this thread, the seller was making deals with cam girls.... where's that part?

caveat emptor for sure, which is the reason those clipped posted here (and the other thread), no? And I've lost more than $200 reading the ridiculous hindsight-enabled replies in this and the other thread :1orglaugh I'm sure I can wear 200 bucks and at the same time let others know who possibly can't wear that :upsidedow

I have done 15k chargebacks on PayPal 5 months later PayPal has 0 risk if you do it right

well-summed up. the whole post but particularly those two sections quoted above

personally I'm shocked that a bitter, resentful old man who opines without ever actually thinking or researching the validity of his assertions would revel in the misfortune of those who have challenged his ish in the past

now we're poor and greedy and foolish. you can almost feel the glee dripping off his posts on the topic

some classy shit

I'm assuming paypal will refund me but either way I'm not giving it any further time or thought. I have real work to do and a successful business to run. everyone involved except Brian does.

I am sad that someone with a long history here has apparently fallen to such obviously dire straits but I wish him well too. unlike Paul I don't get off on that kind of thing

Jel you got what you bargained for -- a royal fucking.

Camgirls selling video on the side --

Paul Neumann said in The Sting: You can't con an honest man.
I live by that rule and I have been stung in total for near $40K in 30 years of doing business. I have seen many others get fucked over a lot worse.

Boy you must be so much fun at parties! Jel got what he bargained for? It's so easy to sit there in East Bumfuck (or wherever you live) and think you're smarter than everyone else. You and Paul Markham should start a podcast where you share your wisdom and psychic intuition about how neither of you ever made a bad deal in business.

You could school all us idiots who saw what we thought was a good deal from a long-standing GFY Member who some of us had done business with before without incident. Never mind that those who bought Brian's "deal" have made similar deals with others in the past. Forget that some of us have acquired content in exactly this way before. Forget that we've been in this business for years. Forget all that - YOU KNOW BETTER! Yup, you and Paul, two sages.

:upsidedow

How fucking broke is the Porn Nerd?

Oh I know the answer to this one!!

Not very.

:thumbsup

So as you are the clever one. Give us some scenarios where a person would have 1,000 HD hardcore and fetish scenes for sale at $1 a scene?

Greed clouded your vision and you got taken.

BTW what did the sample look like?

"We have been making custom videos for years and if you think you can help just let me know." From the original offer post.

Who makes content for years and does nothing with it? The content never existed and Brian clipped a few greedy people. He's clearly broke and on his last few bucks trying to make the rent.

Point out where this old man was wrong. None of these guys did due diligence and I have yet to find out what the samples were like that Brian promised to send.

I've had enough snipes at me over the years and have every right to sling some back. So :321GFY

Why haven't you blocked his nics? He's just here to antagonize and spread bad vibes you don't need that dude :2 cents:

Smack dat / JohnnyClips / Joshua G / JohnnyNight / John1975 / relic

What did you think of the samples he sent?Were they as good as he promised, from the scenes being sold, video clips or just images?

You would have known the value of the content once you saw the content. :upsidedow

Greed got in the way of common sense and they fell for it. The big guys stand up and admit it. Little ones find excuses.

Simples rules for doing business online.

No one you know only online is your friend or can be trusted.

Posting on GFY and acting like a Bro, is easy.

Credit is earned not given.

If an offer looks too good to be true, it's more likely not true.

If you have the slightest doubt, stop and think long and hard.

right, what I thought then... a sidestep of the question because you can't answer it, and some old nonsense about some kind of 'royal fucking' ($200 bucks is a royal fucking? :1orglaugh ), followed by saying an honest man can't be conned, and a figure of how much you have been conned :error

I lost 10 iq points just reading that reply, and I only had about 70 to fucking start with. Leave me some, for fuck's sake.

Stick to cams & domains, you know what you are talking about with those... in this thread you look like a retard whose 'it was obvious' told-ya-so is worth less than one of markhams package deals. At zero point was it obvious it was a camgirl deal, and everyone pointing out the 'obvious' is pointing out everything that has come out AFTER those who didn't receive anything, let other people know (for them to use that info and THEN say blahblah... wtf lol :upsidedow

Like I said, I doubt anyone in this thread nor the other one gives a shit about a pissy $200, do a simple paypal dispute and 10 mins of work overall later, you get your dough anyway... the whole point of the posts is to bring out the facts, and let others know for future reference, as any community (even one as fucked up as this place) should do.

People jumping in afterwards... well, I'm a dopey cunt at the best of times, but the inaneness of all these look-at-me-i-wouldn't-have-lost-200-bucks makes my jaw drop more than the original sellers dumbness in thinking what he thought would work, would work.

The samples looked fine, I had done biz with him before, and he sent me a HD of content (and not 'camgirl videos' but hardcore B/G scenes, some G/G and a few solo). The problem? No docs for the content he sent me, and there were only 45 videos instead of the 200+ he promised me. When I asked for an exclusive license, the correct content or a refund that's when the problems started.

Since no docs, IDs or 2257, I can't even use the content he did send me.

As for scenarios where content has not been sold and is just sitting there:

From a website, now taken down never to re-launch.
Models who do content exchanges in lieu of payment with newbs.
Newbs who think they want to get into Adult, shoot some content, then decide otherwise.
Photographers who have not yet monetized the content and decided they don't want the headaches of making a site, selling it, etc.
Husbands, now divorced, who have the rights to the content they made with their ex-wives.
Wives who got the content rights in the divorce and don't know what to do with it.

These are just a few examples.

In Brian's case we're also talking Florida so who knows what they're thinking down there. Could easily have been rednecks fucking around, doing meth all day, doing one drug-fueled sex scene with some trailer park trash whore after another, letting the tapes pile up as they foolishly, hopelessly chase their "dream" of internet porn stardom.

Whatever, fucking pay me back Brian. :disgust

Jel you got scammed -- deal with it. It's was only $200.

I would never get suckered this way -- on a camgirl scam at GFY LOL

Go to Florida and sue for the porn you didn't get -- do you know how dumb that sounds, seriously. I understand you are pissed off big time.

Is selling content for $1 a piece that far off from $10 a piece? What about $5 a piece? What's the exact cut off where a person XYZ is no longer able to throw out their content for any price to cash in on it?

I own over 200 exclusive scenes. I would never dream of selling the rights to them, let alone sell them for pennies on the dollar, but I can certainly understand how someone might want to do that. Selling this batch at $10 a piece with 10 licenses would net $20k this year. Selling it again next year at $5 a piece with 20 licenses would net $20k next year. Maybe the year after that is $3, maybe the year after that is $1.

Point being, own content and you can do whatever the fuck you want with it. I have bought plenty of content from dirt cheap sources, including one person spouting off in this thread. Cheap, expensive... no excuse for the buyer not getting what they bought. Blaming the buyer for getting "scammed" is in the same ballpark as blaming a cute girl for getting her ass slapped by a drunk douchebag.

The money is gone. Brian doesn't have it. It's not coming back anytime soon. In business you get burned every now and then. It sucks, it's the way it is. Maybe someday Brian will try getting things back in gear but the reality is he doesn't have the money. Expecting to get it is like squeezing water from a rock.

I warned you when I said "good luck" and bumped this thread. The fact that you didn't understand my sarcasm is your fucking problem.

You got fucked.

the fuck?

what occurred here was that Brian (not a camgirl) entered into a transaction with some individuals from here (only one a camgirl being me, unless you count what Jel does on Saturday nights under his chaturbate handle BigThunder4U).

can only speak to what went down for me. I was told by Brian (not a camgirl) that he was selling some old content in order to raise money for his new project. I received sample images from Brian (not a camgirl), was told I would be provided full 2257 records (owned by Brian, not a camgirl), and received an invoice document in the name and address of Brian (not a camgirl). after that I sent money to a paypal account I was told belonged to Brian (not a camgirl).

considering the above this is a 'camgirl scam' how exactly?

in no way can anyone prove 'camgirls' had any part in Brian's choices or conduct so can we keep the blame if it's going to be meted out on the party at fault por favor?

anyways, I'm out. wish everyone owed funds the best of luck and to those who find what happened exciting or enjoyable or an excuse to unfairly bash an entirely unrelated profession, this situation is def revealing character (and lack thereof) all over the place. has been interesting to see it unfold.

peace y'all, have a wicked weekend =)

Hey Paul,

I just found this deal of videos for $1.00 a piece. It isn't 1000 but it is quite a lot of content.

But I guess it must be a rip-off because it is $1.00/scene and no one but a scammer would sell their content that cheaply.

270 Videos for $270.00

.

Independent models or cam girls?
I possibly read something into the transaction.

At any rate I ain't ever buying anything from a GFY member using a personal paypal or other MTA. Legit businesses only. Sorry you got fucked on the deals you got yourselves into.

Barry's by far the biggest condescending know-it-all dbag on here.

Haha FOR THE WIN!!

Paul please take your meds. You're forgetting your own $1 deals!! LOL

Classic. :thumbsup

Ohhh wow :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh