I know, been doing this 17 years and never had any problems. Yeah little shit here and there but not this. I know I will be called stupid for being trusting but it wasn't like that and when you know and work with someone for 17 years it is the last thing you think about. At least for me it was.

I am working on fixing it and it will all be fixed soon. It will be more than just getting everyone paid back and I will contact them about it.
This might be messing up my biz but it is really messing it up for the girls. They are the ones who are really fucked because I did everything and if they think they can just do this on their own and I just sit back and say nothing they are crazy. They need to think long and hard about that.

Oh I agree Sarettah. I kinda expect it now but I am not hiding and will get it fixed asap. The live cams and everything can still work. It is one girl causing all the problems. Well at least I think it is.
I can't say much and it would not change anything if I did. I'd rather just get shit back to normal. I just need to get that in their heads as well.

You are a known entity so that helps you some.

Sorry to hear about all the problems with the house and stuff.

Did she (whoever it is that is giving the trouble) grab the money sent in for the content too?

Sounds like they have control of everything and you don't have any of the control but all of the responsibility. Not a good way to end up.

I hope it all works out for you.

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What's the URL so we can see them?

apologies, totally misread ya. I hate that ish too though so if it's kinder and gentler not to even jokingly trash peeps during a tough moment, awesome. you'd never do that anyways =p

I'm prob overly sensitive to that though. I went through a REALLY tough year last year from beginning to end, money wise I was fine (even through the Chexx debacle I never missed a payment owed to anyone) but mentally and physically I was fucking cracked. and everyone was so nice to me and insanely supportive. really meant a lot and was really surprising. figured at least some peeps would take a bit of glee in it but nope, not a one.

so yeah, nice to see peeps aren't trashing what I think is a really cool idea, if the OP can get his ish together and pull it off

haha, so there is an upside to that :upsidedow

:Oh crap not good, get well dude


I gotta admit I'm not impressed that I had to find out about this through a gfy drama thread and Jel asking the question. it's not a respectful way to treat peeps who deserve open communication in a business transaction.

shit happens though and zero hard feelings. once I'm paid back we'll be criss, so shoot me an email and let me know the date when I can expect the payment to be refunded. the issues you're having with the women you work with aren't relevant to that.

sincerely wish you all the best in sorting everything out, keep your head up =)

Just make him pay up front for a license to resell.

I was wondering why you have so much and it wasn't sold.

Paul, did you even read the thread?

:helpme

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tbh he deserves it, though I'm far too busy these days to dish out the shit warranted by such an unrectified fuckup and incoherent answering of chasing-up correspondence by email, and lack of updates. Whatever history Brian has here, discount it going forward, and save yourself any future headaches. Having to resort to a paypal dispute to recover a measly 200 bucks or so, what a pita.

all the headaches can be too much, hence why we´ve kept most of our content to our own name.

When we do a dvd, it´s ours. When we put things on our sites, it´s ours, only our own headaches...

I´m considering selling some of our outdoor footage for package prices though :2 cents:

Brian if this situation is not resolved by tomorrow, March 6, then there will be an entire thread about how you stole from me $1800.00.

Stop stealing brian!

the time I've wasted in setting up the order and having to escalate paypal to get a refund is definitely annoying.

whatever the outcome I'll never again engage in any type of transaction of any sort with the OP or his other handle Brian8377

having to chase someone down for a few bills is...pathetic. whatever his chaotic home situation may be, really not an ok way to treat people and def indicative of both solvency and character

too bad

When I start my thread tomorrow feel free to jump in with your experiences. Let's stop this guy and recover whatever we can.

Give us the deets!

Details, including emails, will be in the upcoming thread if Brian doesn't make good on this deal. Stay tuned...

holy shit, $1800, should be on your doorstep at least within 24hr latest :Oh crap

I didn't realize there was a thread going about this.

I have also filed a PayPal dispute, no drive or returned money, only excuses.

Feel free to chime in tomorrow with your experiences when I post the thread. I'm hoping I don't have to...

Monday bump

i'm outta here..

This is very unfortunate. I hope you can make it up to the good (to say the least) GFY peeps involved, Brian.

such a shame he got me too :(

This Brian guy has always been a scammer/troller

.... I wish i seen this thread sooner, i'd have warned you guys :Oh crap

How did he scam before?

I thought it was a red flag he wouldn't give any URL's

I dont remember... but read back his postings shows how shitty of a person he is.

Yes and thought it was too good to be true.

Who in their right fucking frame of mind thinks this kind of content is worth $1 a scene?

HD, BG, BGG, GG, GGG, GGGG, solo masturbation, Anal, creampie, blowjob, facial. At $1 a scene. Common sense should have told you it was worth a lot more. An idiot could have made a lot more out of it on C4S and Adult Centro.

Easy to spot the greedy guys here who didn't think.

The final proof that none of you thinks too hard and Brian is conning you. What group of girls sell scenes for $1 and give Brian a cut? Brian knows if this was real he could make more money out of it.

Where did you warn anyone it was too good to be true?

All I see is you bragging "I told you so" without ever saying it's too good to be true.

What good is your knowledge here if you don't use it to protect people and help them?

I tell people all the time to make it money up front and this was too much content for too little money.

bulk order, why not...

not exclusive though.


I´ve a couple of nice scenes, bathroom & bed of Tanya Cox & a model Tiffany, we´re looking to sell. Probably ask 50 a scene & they will be sold again at that kind of fee.

Exclusive´s usually $200 to $1500 each depending the niche :2 cents:

$50 a scene is a long way from $1. Even if sold in bulk. It's a con from the start.

Magic join links anyone?? Paul is good like that.

That you can't grasp there are many viable scenarios in which someone would sell at that price (including any such person being an idiot, and/or not knowing about C4S/AC, or ALSO selling on C4S/AC), is no great surprise given your past demonstrations of myopic thinking.

'greedy guys'... so, only people who 'don't think' would buy let's say... collectible stamps from a guy who is well known, been around a long time, has no previous visible signs of scamming; because he is e.g. in the shit and needs money from a surplus supply that he can replicate at any time? That also isn't his primary source of income.

Yeah, people looking to pick up bargains are 'greedy' lol. I've picked up tons on here over the years, especially in the last few years where non-exclusive content has plummeted in value. Amount of times scammed = this one time (and tbh I don't think it is actually a scam, just poorly thought out, and a fuck-up of putting things right). If low price = 100% scam, how come it's a rare event, relative to the amount of content sold on here?

Now, if an actual content producer selling his main wares suddenly slashed prices and started offering cut-price bargain basement deals, that would definitely raise flags. It's why I would buy from someone like Stefan G, but wouldn't buy from - oh I don't know, some has-been guy scrambling for cash and slashing prices across the board in 'last ever sale' sales every other month.

Though I will hold my hands up - I most definitely am guilty of not doing my own due diligence on this one, instead relying on just a cursory look at the seller. For $220 the only risk is time lost. Win some, lose some, let others know as is ethically correct, and move on. Oh, missed a step: reply to hindsight-enabled 'I told you so' replies whereby the I-told-you so's never actually happened.

This was a classic con-job. Making 'deals' with camgirls.

which was mentioned prior to the sale... where? I'd like to read that post in this thread to see why I missed it, thanks :thumbsup

15 years in the cam business told me -- you can't get that reading a GFY thread.

Paypal, Western Union same shit. Caveat Emptor. You're lucky you only got clipped for $200 :2 cents:

right, so the part though where you knew from being in the cam biz, that in this thread, the seller was making deals with cam girls.... where's that part?

caveat emptor for sure, which is the reason those clipped posted here (and the other thread), no? And I've lost more than $200 reading the ridiculous hindsight-enabled replies in this and the other thread :1orglaugh I'm sure I can wear 200 bucks and at the same time let others know who possibly can't wear that :upsidedow

I have done 15k chargebacks on PayPal 5 months later PayPal has 0 risk if you do it right

well-summed up. the whole post but particularly those two sections quoted above

personally I'm shocked that a bitter, resentful old man who opines without ever actually thinking or researching the validity of his assertions would revel in the misfortune of those who have challenged his ish in the past

now we're poor and greedy and foolish. you can almost feel the glee dripping off his posts on the topic

some classy shit

I'm assuming paypal will refund me but either way I'm not giving it any further time or thought. I have real work to do and a successful business to run. everyone involved except Brian does.

I am sad that someone with a long history here has apparently fallen to such obviously dire straits but I wish him well too. unlike Paul I don't get off on that kind of thing

Jel you got what you bargained for -- a royal fucking.

Camgirls selling video on the side --

Paul Neumann said in The Sting: You can't con an honest man.
I live by that rule and I have been stung in total for near $40K in 30 years of doing business. I have seen many others get fucked over a lot worse.