Boy you must be so much fun at parties! Jel got what he bargained for? It's so easy to sit there in East Bumfuck (or wherever you live) and think you're smarter than everyone else. You and Paul Markham should start a podcast where you share your wisdom and psychic intuition about how neither of you ever made a bad deal in business.

You could school all us idiots who saw what we thought was a good deal from a long-standing GFY Member who some of us had done business with before without incident. Never mind that those who bought Brian's "deal" have made similar deals with others in the past. Forget that some of us have acquired content in exactly this way before. Forget that we've been in this business for years. Forget all that - YOU KNOW BETTER! Yup, you and Paul, two sages.

:upsidedow

How fucking broke is the Porn Nerd?

Oh I know the answer to this one!!

Not very.

:thumbsup

So as you are the clever one. Give us some scenarios where a person would have 1,000 HD hardcore and fetish scenes for sale at $1 a scene?

Greed clouded your vision and you got taken.

BTW what did the sample look like?

"We have been making custom videos for years and if you think you can help just let me know." From the original offer post.

Who makes content for years and does nothing with it? The content never existed and Brian clipped a few greedy people. He's clearly broke and on his last few bucks trying to make the rent.

Point out where this old man was wrong. None of these guys did due diligence and I have yet to find out what the samples were like that Brian promised to send.

I've had enough snipes at me over the years and have every right to sling some back. So :321GFY

Why haven't you blocked his nics? He's just here to antagonize and spread bad vibes you don't need that dude :2 cents:

Smack dat / JohnnyClips / Joshua G / JohnnyNight / John1975 / relic

What did you think of the samples he sent?Were they as good as he promised, from the scenes being sold, video clips or just images?

You would have known the value of the content once you saw the content. :upsidedow

Greed got in the way of common sense and they fell for it. The big guys stand up and admit it. Little ones find excuses.

Simples rules for doing business online.

No one you know only online is your friend or can be trusted.

Posting on GFY and acting like a Bro, is easy.

Credit is earned not given.

If an offer looks too good to be true, it's more likely not true.

If you have the slightest doubt, stop and think long and hard.

right, what I thought then... a sidestep of the question because you can't answer it, and some old nonsense about some kind of 'royal fucking' ($200 bucks is a royal fucking? :1orglaugh ), followed by saying an honest man can't be conned, and a figure of how much you have been conned :error

I lost 10 iq points just reading that reply, and I only had about 70 to fucking start with. Leave me some, for fuck's sake.

Stick to cams & domains, you know what you are talking about with those... in this thread you look like a retard whose 'it was obvious' told-ya-so is worth less than one of markhams package deals. At zero point was it obvious it was a camgirl deal, and everyone pointing out the 'obvious' is pointing out everything that has come out AFTER those who didn't receive anything, let other people know (for them to use that info and THEN say blahblah... wtf lol :upsidedow

Like I said, I doubt anyone in this thread nor the other one gives a shit about a pissy $200, do a simple paypal dispute and 10 mins of work overall later, you get your dough anyway... the whole point of the posts is to bring out the facts, and let others know for future reference, as any community (even one as fucked up as this place) should do.

People jumping in afterwards... well, I'm a dopey cunt at the best of times, but the inaneness of all these look-at-me-i-wouldn't-have-lost-200-bucks makes my jaw drop more than the original sellers dumbness in thinking what he thought would work, would work.

The samples looked fine, I had done biz with him before, and he sent me a HD of content (and not 'camgirl videos' but hardcore B/G scenes, some G/G and a few solo). The problem? No docs for the content he sent me, and there were only 45 videos instead of the 200+ he promised me. When I asked for an exclusive license, the correct content or a refund that's when the problems started.

Since no docs, IDs or 2257, I can't even use the content he did send me.

As for scenarios where content has not been sold and is just sitting there:

From a website, now taken down never to re-launch.
Models who do content exchanges in lieu of payment with newbs.
Newbs who think they want to get into Adult, shoot some content, then decide otherwise.
Photographers who have not yet monetized the content and decided they don't want the headaches of making a site, selling it, etc.
Husbands, now divorced, who have the rights to the content they made with their ex-wives.
Wives who got the content rights in the divorce and don't know what to do with it.

These are just a few examples.

In Brian's case we're also talking Florida so who knows what they're thinking down there. Could easily have been rednecks fucking around, doing meth all day, doing one drug-fueled sex scene with some trailer park trash whore after another, letting the tapes pile up as they foolishly, hopelessly chase their "dream" of internet porn stardom.

Whatever, fucking pay me back Brian. :disgust

Jel you got scammed -- deal with it. It's was only $200.

I would never get suckered this way -- on a camgirl scam at GFY LOL

Go to Florida and sue for the porn you didn't get -- do you know how dumb that sounds, seriously. I understand you are pissed off big time.

Is selling content for $1 a piece that far off from $10 a piece? What about $5 a piece? What's the exact cut off where a person XYZ is no longer able to throw out their content for any price to cash in on it?

I own over 200 exclusive scenes. I would never dream of selling the rights to them, let alone sell them for pennies on the dollar, but I can certainly understand how someone might want to do that. Selling this batch at $10 a piece with 10 licenses would net $20k this year. Selling it again next year at $5 a piece with 20 licenses would net $20k next year. Maybe the year after that is $3, maybe the year after that is $1.

Point being, own content and you can do whatever the fuck you want with it. I have bought plenty of content from dirt cheap sources, including one person spouting off in this thread. Cheap, expensive... no excuse for the buyer not getting what they bought. Blaming the buyer for getting "scammed" is in the same ballpark as blaming a cute girl for getting her ass slapped by a drunk douchebag.

The money is gone. Brian doesn't have it. It's not coming back anytime soon. In business you get burned every now and then. It sucks, it's the way it is. Maybe someday Brian will try getting things back in gear but the reality is he doesn't have the money. Expecting to get it is like squeezing water from a rock.

I warned you when I said "good luck" and bumped this thread. The fact that you didn't understand my sarcasm is your fucking problem.

You got fucked.

the fuck?

what occurred here was that Brian (not a camgirl) entered into a transaction with some individuals from here (only one a camgirl being me, unless you count what Jel does on Saturday nights under his chaturbate handle BigThunder4U).

can only speak to what went down for me. I was told by Brian (not a camgirl) that he was selling some old content in order to raise money for his new project. I received sample images from Brian (not a camgirl), was told I would be provided full 2257 records (owned by Brian, not a camgirl), and received an invoice document in the name and address of Brian (not a camgirl). after that I sent money to a paypal account I was told belonged to Brian (not a camgirl).

considering the above this is a 'camgirl scam' how exactly?

in no way can anyone prove 'camgirls' had any part in Brian's choices or conduct so can we keep the blame if it's going to be meted out on the party at fault por favor?

anyways, I'm out. wish everyone owed funds the best of luck and to those who find what happened exciting or enjoyable or an excuse to unfairly bash an entirely unrelated profession, this situation is def revealing character (and lack thereof) all over the place. has been interesting to see it unfold.

peace y'all, have a wicked weekend =)

Hey Paul,

I just found this deal of videos for $1.00 a piece. It isn't 1000 but it is quite a lot of content.

But I guess it must be a rip-off because it is $1.00/scene and no one but a scammer would sell their content that cheaply.

270 Videos for $270.00

.

Independent models or cam girls?
I possibly read something into the transaction.

At any rate I ain't ever buying anything from a GFY member using a personal paypal or other MTA. Legit businesses only. Sorry you got fucked on the deals you got yourselves into.

Barry's by far the biggest condescending know-it-all dbag on here.

Haha FOR THE WIN!!

Paul please take your meds. You're forgetting your own $1 deals!! LOL

Classic. :thumbsup

Ohhh wow :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

lol $1 a scene wtf?

Money here: BitterStrawberry

lol, you are quoting a post AFTER the fact... Man... you are one of the most intelligent guys on this board when it comes to certain things, but dumb as shit in this thread. Of course I got scammed (still think it's an almighty fuck up, maybe I'm just not willing to go as far as that without concrete evidence, which for this instance we'll never have. Seen many people get themselves in the shit without it being pre-meditated, so I can't go as far as just screaming 'scammer'), I was the one who brought it up in the thread in the first place that something was off. Fuck, go read it again lol. Actually it's just dawned on me while writing that out - seems you think the problem is the people who didn't get their content are somehow 'stupid', and to inflate your ego you jumped in here to let them know how savvy you are, and spotted it a mile away. Well, a mile away AFTER the fact, but hey what are a few details amongst board users :error


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In general... what Sly said. My last bunch of content I paid $2.10 a scene for, certainly not a stretch that someone needed some quick cash.

The idiocy of the hindsight-posters in this thread is level 10. Those who didn't get the content said hold on a sec.. then it all comes out, then drunk/stoned/retarded come out the woodwork and try to point out the stuff said after Brian got called out, and claim it as a gotcha. You couldn't make that logic fail up lol.

Oh, and l m f a o at the markham find :1orglaugh

That alone was worth $220 :1orglaugh

Yes, almost pays me back with pure entertainment value. LOL

Jel, I am not the dumb shit that lost $200 on a two bit GFY scam -- learn from your lesson or get scammed again

Porn Nerd, what's your paypal, I'll send u the $1800

:1orglaugh Ok champ :thumbsup all I'll have lost at the end of this was my time... by far the largest part of it spent in this thread - which as it turned out was actually well spent, just to see markham pwn himself yet again. Added bonus was you flapping around deflecting because you couldn't understand you were going on after-the-fact info. Like I said, stick to cams & domains, you know your shit there.

ps Learn how paypal works before feeling good that someone else got 'scammed' numbnuts :1orglaugh

Don't forget to take your orange curly wig off before bedtime :thumbsup

Yeah, don't do any porn on Paypal unless the goods are shipped and delivered by UPS or USPS.

Butthurt a little ...
At first you manned up and said you should have known better ... now this stupid shit ..

And I stand by my lack of due diligence... for $200 though... tbh I'd sooner free up my time. I'm more careful with real sums of money.

And behave... the shit flinging started with you trying to show how clever you were, whilst being comically unaware you weren't clever enough to keep track of the timeline. So gfy and save the condascending crap for the threads where you DO know what you're talking about, instead of aiming it at those who spoke up in this one, so there's a reference for future users of the forum :2 cents:

Only a fucking tool would crow where people didn't get goods ordered (despite pretty much all of them from what I've read so far being able to get 'clipped' for 200 bucks without skipping a heartbeat), you might wanna take a minute to think what a total cunt you look. And yes, I already know *I'm* one :thumbsup

You're right about being butthurt in a way, but it was that I yet again let myself be dragged into the idiocy that's so prevalent on here... man I fall for that one every fucking time - more fool me for sure!

both of you are awesome (although, yes, Barry you can be a blowhard but I find it endearing cuz there's rarely any real spite attached and it's fucking hilarious when you get super-literal).

don't drag each other down like this, not worth it. @Barry, Jel and I are fine. I feel hella bad for Trainwreck and PN though, as they had higher amounts involved

thing is, if we get refunded we'll be refunded by paypal. funnily enough I wanted to pay via ACH through my business bank account, but like a lot of legit webmasters from whom I've made purchases, Brian requested paypal

if I'd paid through my bank I'd have no real recourse when he failed to deliver. so in retrospect doing something that was not my first choice (sending via paypal) will be the reason I'll prob get paid back.

hope the same is true for others. now I'm out for real

amani y'all

HAHA peace out don't get fucked over by another low-life again

Instant red-flag with me -- I hope Paypal refunds everyone if Brian doesn't. Or at least partial less any "goods" actually received.

All scenes SD, solo girl, normal porn and sold many times before 2008. Keep clutching desperately at straws to make the greedy look good. It still doesn't work.

Are you saying you dealt with him before and he never delivered what was promised?

Still worth more than $1 a scene.

Stop making excuses and own up to being taken.

You have more chances of winning the lottery.

^^ :thumbsup

Putting that kind of content on C4S, which is a very bad earner, would make more than $20 a scene over time. Putting in Adult Centro would make $2,000 a month once all up. I have 450 SD scenes and 1100 photosets on there and they make over $500 a month with no work. HD Hardcore would make a lot more. Even Sarah points out a deal of $1 a scene content that keeps selling.

This is no comparison. This was an obvious scam.

Stop smoking that strong weed. You're missing the point. My $1 a scene is non-exclusive, saturated, SD, Solo Girl, Straight Porn. And still sells well at as a bundle at $1 a scene.

The people buying these deals can afford them. You don't buy because you can't profit from them. You're unable to sell 10 memberships to cover the costs. You need far better deals to make any profit.

Paul I think it's you who is smoking the strong Czech medical marijuana. LOL Your shit was non-exclusive, so was Brian's. No difference. You really (as usual) don't know what you're talking about here. MY deal with Brian was for EXCLUSIVE, videos he had not sold to anyone else yet. If I was interested in non-exclusive I could also make $ with it just not as much.

But that's ok, I'm not going to go over the details for someone more interested in being a snarky old man gloating over someone else getting ripped off. Say what you want about me or the others who got screwed by brian but you are on the wrong side of this Paul. Again, as usual.

Carry on.

Whats your paypal addy?

this is why it's an inefficient use of time and often unpleasant to try to have a conversation with him. mean and ego-driven is difficult combination, I find anyways

besides, think about how few real joys in life one must have to get off on ish like this. we shouldn't take that away from him :winkwink:

hope you're having a wicked day PN, and for real have my fingers crossed for both you and Trainwreck that you win your paypal disputes