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Robbie 01-18-2017 10:54 PM

BladeWire, since you refuse to simply google it for yourself...let me quote the FACTS to you:
"The US Department of Defense awarded contracts as early as the 1960s for packet network systems, including the development of the ARPANET. The first message was sent over the ARPANET from computer science Professor Leonard Kleinrock's laboratory at University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) to the second network node at Stanford Research Institute "

Do you get it now? They awarded CONTRACTS to private individuals.

Govt. money (taxpayer money) was used to pay for the work.

That is all I was saying.

And the subsequent technology's and software and hardware was ALL developed by private companies to respond to the growing market in the aftermath of that original work that the military paid for.

Why the heck are you so pro-miliary, pro-govt. and anti-individual in this discussion.

Wow. I just can't understand why people are so quick to treat a bunch of bureaucrats in Washington D.C. who live on the taxpayers dime with such awe and glory...while treating the true people who had the brains and did the work with such disdain.

Bladewire 01-18-2017 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21464122)
I told you in my original remark that yes ..the govt. (military) paid a private company to makensure those 4 computers communicate and that technology would eventually advance on the market to the internet we have now.

The govt doesn't make any of its own stuff. It contracts out to companies to build things for it.

Business and government have always worked hand in hand not sure why the government creating the internet makes your big balls itch but whatever.

Facts aren't negotiable.

The government created the internet, then it was released for commercialism by a Democratic administration :thumbsup




JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-18-2017 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21464140)
BladeWire, since you refuse to simply google it for yourself...let me quote the FACTS to you:
"The US Department of Defense awarded contracts as early as the 1960s for packet network systems, including the development of the ARPANET. The first message was sent over the ARPANET from computer science Professor Leonard Kleinrock's laboratory at University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) to the second network node at Stanford Research Institute "

Do you get it now? They awarded CONTRACTS to private individuals.

Govt. money (taxpayer money) was used to pay for the work.

That is all I was saying.

And the subsequent technology's and software and hardware was ALL developed by private companies to respond to the growing market in the aftermath of that original work that the military paid for.

Why the heck are you so pro-miliary, pro-govt. and anti-individual in this discussion.

Wow. I just can't understand why people are so quick to treat a bunch of bureaucrats in Washington D.C. who live on the taxpayers dime with such awe and glory...while treating the true people who had the brains and did the work with such disdain.

Mind control and propaganda is real, that's why he believes what he believes

Robbie 01-18-2017 10:58 PM

One more thing Bladewire...read this page about Arpanet:
The Invention of the Internet - Inventions - HISTORY.com

You will notice that the people who did the work and actually CREATED it are from MIT.

You probably won't bother so I'll copy/paste it here:

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In 1962, a scientist from M.I.T. and ARPA named J.C.R. Licklider proposed a solution to this problem: a ?galactic network? of computers that could talk to one another. Such a network would enable government leaders to communicate even if the Soviets destroyed the telephone system.

In 1965, another M.I.T. scientist developed a way of sending information from one computer to another that he called ?packet switching.? Packet switching breaks data down into blocks, or packets, before sending it to its destination. That way, each packet can take its own route from place to place. Without packet switching, the government?s computer network?now known as the ARPAnet?would have been just as vulnerable to enemy attacks as the phone system.

In 1969, ARPAnet delivered its first message: a ?node-to-node? communication from one computer to another. (The first computer was located in a research lab at UCLA and the second was at Stanford; each one was the size of a small house.) The message??LOGIN??was short and simple, but it crashed the fledgling ARPA network anyway: The Stanford computer only received the note?s first two letters.

By the end of 1969, just four computers were connected to the ARPAnet, but the network grew steadily during the 1970s. In 1971, it added the University of Hawaii?s ALOHAnet, and two years later it added networks at London?s University College and the Royal Radar Establishment in Norway. As packet-switched computer networks multiplied, however, it became more difficult for them to integrate into a single worldwide ?Internet.?

By the end of the 1970s, a computer scientist named Vinton Cerf had begun to solve this problem by developing a way for all of the computers on all of the world?s mini-networks to communicate with one another. He called his invention ?Transmission Control Protocol,? or TCP. (Later, he added an additional protocol, known as ?Internet Protocol.? The acronym we use to refer to these today is TCP/IP.) One writer describes Cerf?s protocol as ?the ?handshake? that introduces distant and different computers to each other in a virtual space.?

THE WORLD WIDE WEB
Cerf?s protocol transformed the Internet into a worldwide network. Throughout the 1980s, researchers and scientists used it to send files and data from one computer to another. However, in 1991 the Internet changed again. That year, a computer programmer in Switzerland named Tim Berners-Lee introduced the World Wide Web: an Internet that was not simply a way to send files from one place to another but was itself a ?web? of information that anyone on the Internet could retrieve. Berners-Lee created the Internet that we know today.

Robbie 01-18-2017 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21464143)
The government created the internet, then it was released for commercialism by a Democratic administration :thumbsup

Let me just re-quote what I just quoted for you:

"That year, a computer programmer in Switzerland named Tim Berners-Lee introduced the World Wide Web: an Internet that was not simply a way to send files from one place to another but was itself a “web” of information that anyone on the Internet could retrieve. Berners-Lee created the Internet that we know today."

Yeah, you're right "facts aren't negotiable".

Unless the U.S. govt. is a Swiss computer programmer named Tim Berners-Lee
:1orglaugh

Bladewire 01-18-2017 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21464152)
Unless the U.S. govt. is a Swiss computer programmer named Tim Berners-Lee

DARPA = beginning of American internet 1958. Are you blind? You don't know your history and keep deflecting off topic.

Assange belongs in jail

Robbie 01-18-2017 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21464155)
DARPA = beginning of American internet 1958. Are you blind? You don't know your history and keep deflecting off topic.

Assange belongs in jail

Am I blind?
Read the article for yourself.
I quoted it for you as well.

I'm outta here. Gonna go catch a late movie. Talk to ya later.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-18-2017 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21464155)
DARPA = beginning of American internet 1958. Are you blind? You don't know your history and keep deflecting off topic.

Assange belongs in jail

You're the one deflecting off topic

Why do you hate Assange so much?

Bladewire 01-18-2017 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21464158)
Am I blind?
Read the article for yourself.
I quoted it for you as well.

I'm outta here. Gonna go catch a late movie. Talk to ya later.

I like sparring with you. Have fun. Cheers! :thumbsup

baddog 01-19-2017 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21463861)
Assange would be tried for espionage.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/798
10 years fed time

That considered, a §2257 beef could get you 5 years -- that's pretty fucked up in severity ...

Like Manning's 35 years?

AtlantisCash 01-19-2017 01:49 PM

Strange World we lived inn, there are still people that can put trust on politicians and even advocate them pointless, Mr. Julian is a so called coward and a liar but, the one WHO make these claims is a board troll WHO probabely have done nothing near what he did.

Bladewire 01-19-2017 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtlantisCash (Post 21465694)
Strange World we lived inn, there are still people that can put trust on politicians and even advocate them pointless, Mr. Julian is a so called coward and a liar but, the one WHO make these claims is a board troll WHO probabely have done nothing near what he did.

Why do you worship Assange?

Give us your main email address & user/pass in the spirit of transparency please. If you don't give it to us we'll steal it. We'll go through all your emails and pick and choose what the public will be interested in. We'll do the same with your taxes, credit card data, credit report etc.

Post all of your data for us please, if you don't we'll do it for you.

That's Assange & co. in a nutshell, with the addition of him having to constantly be in the spotlight garnering constant attention.

You are a complete fool. Right for your freedom in Turkey instead of hating America and defending a lying coward. Your "president" Erdoğan is destroying your country!

AtlantisCash 01-19-2017 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 21464044)
Jesus christ man we get it! You love the government. Most rational people despise the government, it's a fucking joke!



can't you realize? You guys trying to educate statist guy WHO thing can't live without existance of his nanny? he is probabely unaware of meaning of the words (anarchy/anarchism).

if he knew that free market more refers to free market capitalism/libertarian, he wouldn't talk with such a big mouth, because when we mention anarchism it's whole lot of a differant philosophy that mostly seemed under the umbrella of marxist/communist ideology.

for instans: while anarchism has words about morals and refuse private propperty, Libertarian philosophy doesn't say anything regarding personal life, because eeither be the most religious person or the freak hippi one is up to you unless you harm others, while private property is your negative liberty.

i know you know this all, but sadly many brainwashed idiots have been thaught otherwise andd we see many of them even here, so he is not the only one.

Bladewire 01-19-2017 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtlantisCash (Post 21465781)
can't you realize? You guys trying to educate statist guy WHO thing can't live without existance of his nanny? he is probabely unaware of meaning of the words (anarchy/anarchism).

if he knew that free market more refers to free market capitalism/libertarian, he wouldn't talk with such a big mouth, because when we mention anarchism it's whole lot of a differant philosophy that mostly seemed under the umbrella of marxist/communist ideology.

for instans: while anarchism has words about morals and refuse private propperty, Libertarian philosophy doesn't say anything regarding personal life, because eeither be the most religious person or the freak hippi one is up to you unless you harm others, while private property is your negative liberty.

i know you know this all, but sadly many brainwashed idiots have been thaught otherwise andd we see many of them even here, so he is not the only one.

Assange is a media whore lying coward, that's why he's held up in the Ecuadorian embassy for over 4 years. His ego won't allow him to be an anonymous nobody, that will be his undoing in the end :thumbsup

AtlantisCash 01-19-2017 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21465706)
Why do you worship Assange?


No i don't, Why do you worship govd?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21465706)
Give us your main email address & user/pass in the spirit of transparency please. If you don't give it to us we'll steal it. We'll go through all your emails and pick and choose what the public will be interested in. We'll do the same with your taxes, credit card data, credit report etc.

Post all of your data for us please, if you don't we'll do it for you.

That's Assange & co. in a nutshell, with the addition of him having to constantly be in the spotlight garnering constant attention.



asking transparency about the system that relies on your taxs and datas which belong to an ordinary citizen are two differant thing, if i was operating a government, probabely all the official documants would be accessible to public under the read only foulders via online online servers.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21465706)
You are a complete fool. Right for your freedom in Turkey instead of hating America and defending a lying coward.



why would i hate America? i love American culture and a good friend is an American, most of the philosophical figures including some of the founding fathers well respected people WHO their ideas helpt improving my ideological view point.

and how did you know that i didn't defend it on here?

it is the topic you made related to leaked mails, i didn't know it was something country spesiphic, you made nonsense arguements here and many people and i were saying the otherwise though you're a thickheaded person can't make solid arguements other than what you saw on tv but actually cluless about terms you used.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21465706)
Your "president" Erdoğan is destroying your country!



You're maybe right on this one, but only this one and i m happy for American citizens that, their the least smarter ones is way clever than some of my uneducated compatriots :winkwink:

rowan 01-19-2017 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21464152)
Let me just re-quote what I just quoted for you:

"That year, a computer programmer in Switzerland named Tim Berners-Lee introduced the World Wide Web: an Internet that was not simply a way to send files from one place to another but was itself a ?web? of information that anyone on the Internet could retrieve. Berners-Lee created the Internet that we know today."

Yeah, you're right "facts aren't negotiable".

Unless the U.S. govt. is a Swiss computer programmer named Tim Berners-Lee
:1orglaugh

Internet Relay Chat (IRC) was invented a year before the World Wide Web. Wrap your mind around that!

Jigster715 01-19-2017 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 21464146)
Mind control and propaganda is real, that's why he believes what he believes

Thats for fucking sure. :2 cents:

klinton 01-20-2017 04:43 AM

lol, just lol....
you really dont seem to get it...are you for real or trolling ?:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21465706)
Why do you worship Assange?

Give us your main email address & user/pass in the spirit of transparency please. If you don't give it to us we'll steal it. We'll go through all your emails and pick and choose what the public will be interested in. We'll do the same with your taxes, credit card data, credit report etc.

Post all of your data for us please, if you don't we'll do it for you.

That's Assange & co. in a nutshell, with the addition of him having to constantly be in the spotlight garnering constant attention.

You are a complete fool. Right for your freedom in Turkey instead of hating America and defending a lying coward. Your "president" Erdoğan is destroying your country!


XXXtrailers 01-27-2017 05:08 AM

Wish the USA tracked them.

Bladewire 08-08-2018 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE (Post 21464164)
Why do you hate Assange so much?

I don't hate Assange

JFK 08-08-2018 11:48 AM

100 Dramas :helpme


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