100 alternative facts

Invading who?

not sure if China, but China´s certainly said if Trump continues, war is not far away :helpme

china is full of shit. what they gonna do stop selling lead painted toys to us?

:1orglaugh

FYI the difference in size & abilities between the armed forces is staggering. they wont do shit to USA with a nut like trump calling the shots. they can hurt the USA but USA would pulverize their military.

:2 cents:

God damn you are one stupid fuck :disgust

Trump CIA speech transcript - CBS News

First:
"And the generals are wonderful, and the fighting is wonderful. But if you give them the right direction, boy, does the fighting become easier. And, boy, do we lose so fewer lives, and win so quickly. And that?s what we have to do. "

And then:

"At a certain age, I remember hearing from one of my instructors, ?The United States has never lost a war.? And then, after that, it?s like we haven?t won anything. We don?t win anymore. The old expression, ?to the victor belong the spoils? -- you remember. I always used to say, keep the oil. I wasn?t a fan of Iraq. I didn?t want to go into Iraq. But I will tell you, when we were in, we got out wrong. And I always said, in addition to that, keep the oil. Now, I said it for economic reasons. But if you think about it, Mike, if we kept the oil you probably wouldn?t have ISIS because that?s where they made their money in the first place. So we should have kept the oil. But okay. (Laughter.) Maybe you?ll have another chance. But the fact is, should have kept the oil."

I won't even go into his ill-conceived threat to send in "the feds" to Chicago to fix the "carnage."

Can you please take over as head Red Hat troller.. I used to have patience to troll them with facts, but it long ago passed, now I can only belittle them.. :(

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Tell you what. I'll take this week's shift. I will probably be able to make it until next weekend before I start getting nasty with them. :1orglaugh

Aw, thank you!

On a side note, I had no idea Shutterstock was into fetish photography!

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Can you go into it? "send in the feds" is a bit vague, but clearly state and local authorities will never solve the problem, so what's wrong with someone else taking a serious look at it?

are you satisfied with the status quo in Chicago? or should something be done, if so, what solution do you propose that doesn't involve "the feds"? (keep in mind that Chicago has been and still is one of the most corrupt and violent cities in the US, and local authorities have been unable to put a dent in any of it)

Sounds like you advocate trashing the US Constitution - After 220 years of it working just fine and now we want to just shelve it?

I'm not advocating anything, I'm just asking what Elli thinks of the issue... and what she thinks should be done, if anything...

what do you think of it yourself?

I object to the manner with which Trump has handled the Chicago thing.

First, he was watching Fox News (feedback loop, anyone?)
Trump tweets response to another cable news segment - Business Insider
This is the clip he saw: https://twitter.com/Walldo/status/824082877503721472
Bill O'Reilly listed crime statistics in Chicago, then suggested "sending in the feds," and then a talking head discussed how this is possible. This is the graphic he saw.

A few hours later he tweeted this:
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/ass...arge-tease.jpg

Funnily enough, Feds are already there. The FBI has a permanent field office in Chicago and works closely with Police there. So, what did he mean by "the feds?" Does he mean Reserves? Army? Imposing Martial Law?

If he is considering sending in the army, then he is considering an impeachable offense and someone needs to tell him this. It's called the Posse Comitatus Act. Interestingly, he could Federalize the National Guard, which would make it somewhat exempt from this act, but Congress would have to allow that.

With such an attitude towards BIG gestures and BIG actions, this definitely sounds like something he would be considering.

Let's slide down the slippery slope a bit further: Chicago has nowhere near the country's highest murder rate. Also, the mayor, just a few hours before the Fox clip that Trump obviously watched, was told to "shut up" and resign by a Fox news anchor because he had suggested the President should stop worrying about his crowd sizes. Rahm has instead requested the federal aide to come in this form: "he pointed to federal help tracking illegal guns and prosecuting these cases, increased gun control measures and “help [paying for] additional police officers.”

In fact, Chicago had a higher murder rate in the 1990s.
https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wo...ll&w=575&ssl=1

Chicago isn't even the highest rate in the country:
https://www.thetrace.org/wp-content/...-c-default.png

If Trump is truly concerned about murder rates, why is he making an example of Chicago instead of going after the more dangerous cities? The only answer is that the clip on Fox News caught his attention and he responded without critical thought.

This is a man who can be aimed in any direction and triggered by someone with an outrageous statistic and a TV show. This the MOST concerning aspect of all of this, aside from what his actual intentions in Chicago are.

Does that help?

per-capita is more important than total dead bodies? the size of the body pile is secondary to the population count in its location? oh god...just to hate trump.

you libs are sooo full retard hating trump.

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If you want absolute counts of bodies, perhaps I can interest you in the popular vote results?

- you are speculating what he saw or what he was replying to, he was concerned with and simply commenting on current events, the FACT that murder rate rose dramatically in Chicago recently
- no one knows what he meant by "send in the feds", so you are speculating again, but the fact remains that local authorities are unable to solve the problem

what would you want the president to do? just ignore the issue? or stick to more important issues like commenting on an unfortunate death of a black guy during an arrest attempt by a white cop?

what would YOU do in a situation like this? you are the president of the United States, and you just learn that murder rate rose dramatically in Chicago... how would you react? What would you do?

I know you were talking to Elli...however being conservative I would pick up the phone and call the Governor and ask him what help he needed..if any...from the FBI, DEA etc...Legal avenues and then keep my mouth shut to the public so that people committing the acts don't realize they are being targeted
And most importantly - let the state handle it...important concept of the republic we live in - the states run themselves in these types of matters :thumbsup

and how will that conversation go? "mind your own business, but hey, send us a check for a few $Billion, that will help"

you guys make it sound like by "send in the feds" he means he will send in military choppers to carpet bomb high crime rate neighborhoods... when all he likely means is that perhaps a committee could be setup to investigate causes and solutions to the problem... or perhaps he means he wants to dedicate more FBI, DEA, etc personnel to specifically help clean up the mess... etc... which if implemented correctly doesn't sound unreasonable at all....

Libs triggered

Meltdowns happening
News at 11

Exactly. It's rash and foolish of him to say "send in the feds" in public.
1) it insults the local authorities without offering help
2) it scares the public who are already worried about FEMA camps and shit like that
3) it scares the public who are worried about federal overreach
4) it fires up public who want this to happen in their town because they are unhappy with their own crime statistics
5) it sets precedent for other cities that have worse problems to expect the same treatment.

NONE OF THIS NEEDED TO HAPPEN. He should have picked up the phone and talked with Emmanuel and hashed out a plan to solve this behind the scenes. But he is incapable of this because HE NEEDS THE ADULATION. He cannot let the credit or the spotlight go to anyone else. THIS IS HIGHLY DISTURBING in a person who holds so much power. Quadafi, anyone? Hitler? Pol Pot? Where the hell is he steering the country?

"insults"/"scares"? it's pretty obvious that local authorities are `incompetent` or too corrupt... so you kinda avoid the question and just misdirect...


what plan would YOU implement? that doesn't involve "the feds".... still waiting to hear what you have in mind...

Chicago keeps getting worse and worse and nobody seems to do anything about it. What is Trump supposed to do, let it turn into Iraq?

Funny. i remember hurricane katrina and a governor and mayor that were both quite happy to let people die and keep the feds out until it was far too late. God forbid a few locals and a couple corrupt and thoroughly inept leaders get "insulted" as we mount an effort to save many 1000s of lives.

Better to just let people die, day in and day out.

Merica!

That jerkoff that was in the White House showed more concern for Treyvon Martin or Clarence Brown than he did for the TEN THOUSAND+ who were shot and/or murdered in his own HOME TOWN during his 2 terms. He did 1,000,000X more for Iran who would happily see us all dead than he has for stopping the endless murders in his own home town of Chicago..

Maybe someone should finally care?

Maybe someone should put their fucking foot down and stop it?

This shit has been going on for a very long time.... lets stop pretending the leadership there isn't 100% incompentent to do anything about it.

Ahhhh... shit. I keep forgetting... Black Lives don't actually matter.


Its fucking funny that you have a guy in the White House that has been talking about this more than the President did in 8 years and talking about stopping it... and when he starts to take action, he's Pol Pot or Hitler??? What a joke. Maybe it should it needs to be your child taking a bullet in the head while asleep in her crib? Your mom while walking down the sidewalk? Why not? You're totally ok with it happening to 1000s of others.... You're happy to take issue with the guy who would stop it after the local government has done jack fucking shit in decades.

Someone needs to walk through these neighborhoods and summarily execute every fucking known gang banger there is. But no, you'll bitch about that... as more and more kids die each day, most of them by accident caught in the cross fire. Countless 1000s murdered. 10's of 1000s shot in the last two decades. What is your plan besides attacking plans?

you should post more, you have this straight to the point, no bullshit way of phrasing things... :2 cents:

290 shooting victims in Chicago for 2017 ALREADY.

But lets not insult a people or public official, no matter how little they care and how inept they are. Lets just let people die.

Merica!

Keep sending positive thoughts to Chicago Elli. Clearly it's helping.

Chicago
JAN. 1, 2016 - DEC. 31, 2016
4,368 shooting victims

How many people were killed in Chicago in 2015?
The year-end crime statistics showed there were 468 murders in Chicago in 2015 compared with 416 the year before, a 12.5% increase, as well as 2,900 shootings—13% more than the year prior, and up 29% since 2013. Chicago had more homicides than any other city in 2015, according to the Chicago Tribune.Jan 2, 2016

BUT.... don't offend the mayor!

Don't hurt any feelings!!!

Let people die,... Let children die,... as long as you don't offend anyone!!

Don't try to save lives or you'll be called "Hitler" and "Pol Pot" by Liberals.

Don't forget...Let people die,...let children die...as long as you don't fuck with our 2nd amendment right!!!!!!!!

What was the 2016 murder rate?

762

609 were black

Why?

A culture of killing has little to do with guns. it's mostly a cultural problem. A cultural problem for a segment of society who has been told nothing is their fault... ever and the message of "do whatcha gotsta do" has been re-inforced for many decades, rather than "be a good person, do the right thing, parent your children and you ANYONE be successful with a little drive and determination and get out of this place". We need to get back to parenting children rather than allowing a segment of society shit out kids day in and day out and neglect them and then cower when they say "mother fucker, you don't know me!" and then call you "racist" when you raise an eyebrow at a 3 year old playing on a busy street or outside at 1am.

We need to get back to a culture where being a good person, being honest and doing the right thing, treating others well and where success is respected and the goal. Not a culture where the lowest common denominator in some areas is dragging the rest down because no one can have an opinion anymore on their net impact on society without being called racist. They used to say "it takes a village to raise a kid"... now we're so far away from that because the worst of humanity is now allowed to tell everyone else they aren't entitled to an opinion about their parenting, their choices and how it affects everyone around them. The world was a much better place when that wasn't the case.

Personally, i don't care one way or another about guns. I dont care if they are banned or not. I don't have a problem with getting shot because i don't hang out where people get shot. I don't associate with people who shoot. Regardless, it's 100% irrelevant to the problem in Chicago. They have strict gun laws. One thing i do know is that the gangs, drug dealers and Cartels WILL ALWAYS HAVE GUNS and the shooting won't stop just because someone decided that their only option is to legally obtain weapons... and that they're suddenly going to fight over $1,000,000 a year street corners with dance-offs and Rock, Paper, Scissors.

Richman speaks on this article!
https://fs.wp.odu.edu/jrichman/2017/...n-times-piece/

I do not support the Washington Times Piece

Dear Washington Times,

As a primary author cited in this piece, I need to say that I think the Washington Times article (Hillary Clinton received 800,000 votes from noncitizens, bolsters Trump argument, study finds - Washington Times) is deceptive. It makes it sound like I have done a study concerning the 2016 election. I have not. What extrapolation I did to the 2016 election (https://fs.wp.odu.edu/jrichman/2016/...ss-to-clinton/) was purely and explicitly and exclusively for the purpose of pointing out that my 2014 study of the 2008 election did not provide evidence of voter fraud at the level some Trump administration people were claiming it did. I do not think that one should rely upon that extrapolation for any other purpose. And I do not stand behind that extrapolation if used for ANY other purpose.

Best Regards,

Jesse Richman



January 31 update

I had a very nice discussion with the author of the Washington Times article. He helped clear up some ways in which I and others had misunderstood his article. He clarified that he in no way intended to say I had new data for 2016 as I and others had read the piece to imply. And I apologized for my misreading of the piece. I sought to clarify that my key concern was that there is substantial uncertainty concerning the level of non-citizen voting in 2016 and I don’t want to get ahead of the data. As I have no national data specifically for 2016 I do not have a specific point estimate for that year.

Hmmm... all of those cities have something in common.
They're all shit holes.

If the rules were different, Trump would have campaigned differently.

If a less extreme talker had put forward the migration, trade and jobs policies Trump put forward, Clinton would have been trashed.

Read it then comment. Did a Study Show That Hillary Clinton Received More Than 800,000 Votes from Non-Citizens in the 2016 Election? : snopes.com

Why are you pro illegal migration and the migration of people who might be terrorists?

Is being PC that important to you?

Yes... it's ironic that all these Christian hating lefties all love to kiss the ass of Muslims.

hahahaha