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Elli 01-29-2017 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Linkster (Post 21496102)
I know you were talking to Elli...however being conservative I would pick up the phone and call the Governor and ask him what help he needed..if any...from the FBI, DEA etc...Legal avenues and then keep my mouth shut to the public so that people committing the acts don't realize they are being targeted
And most importantly - let the state handle it...important concept of the republic we live in - the states run themselves in these types of matters :thumbsup

Exactly. It's rash and foolish of him to say "send in the feds" in public.
1) it insults the local authorities without offering help
2) it scares the public who are already worried about FEMA camps and shit like that
3) it scares the public who are worried about federal overreach
4) it fires up public who want this to happen in their town because they are unhappy with their own crime statistics
5) it sets precedent for other cities that have worse problems to expect the same treatment.

NONE OF THIS NEEDED TO HAPPEN. He should have picked up the phone and talked with Emmanuel and hashed out a plan to solve this behind the scenes. But he is incapable of this because HE NEEDS THE ADULATION. He cannot let the credit or the spotlight go to anyone else. THIS IS HIGHLY DISTURBING in a person who holds so much power. Quadafi, anyone? Hitler? Pol Pot? Where the hell is he steering the country?

woj 01-29-2017 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Elli (Post 21497014)
Exactly. It's rash and foolish of him to say "send in the feds" in public.
1) it insults the local authorities without offering help
2) it scares the public who are already worried about FEMA camps and shit like that
3) it scares the public who are worried about federal overreach
4) it fires up public who want this to happen in their town because they are unhappy with their own crime statistics
5) it sets precedent for other cities that have worse problems to expect the same treatment.

NONE OF THIS NEEDED TO HAPPEN. He should have picked up the phone and talked with Emmanuel and hashed out a plan to solve this behind the scenes. But he is incapable of this because HE NEEDS THE ADULATION. He cannot let the credit or the spotlight go to anyone else. THIS IS HIGHLY DISTURBING in a person who holds so much power. Quadafi, anyone? Hitler? Pol Pot? Where the hell is he steering the country?

"insults"/"scares"? it's pretty obvious that local authorities are `incompetent` or too corrupt... so you kinda avoid the question and just misdirect...


what plan would YOU implement? that doesn't involve "the feds".... still waiting to hear what you have in mind...

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-29-2017 03:46 PM

Chicago keeps getting worse and worse and nobody seems to do anything about it. What is Trump supposed to do, let it turn into Iraq?

TheSquealer 01-29-2017 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Elli (Post 21497014)
Exactly. It's rash and foolish of him to say "send in the feds" in public.
1) it insults the local authorities without offering help
2) it scares the public who are already worried about FEMA camps and shit like that
3) it scares the public who are worried about federal overreach
4) it fires up public who want this to happen in their town because they are unhappy with their own crime statistics
5) it sets precedent for other cities that have worse problems to expect the same treatment.

NONE OF THIS NEEDED TO HAPPEN. He should have picked up the phone and talked with Emmanuel and hashed out a plan to solve this behind the scenes. But he is incapable of this because HE NEEDS THE ADULATION. He cannot let the credit or the spotlight go to anyone else. THIS IS HIGHLY DISTURBING in a person who holds so much power. Quadafi, anyone? Hitler? Pol Pot? Where the hell is he steering the country?

Funny. i remember hurricane katrina and a governor and mayor that were both quite happy to let people die and keep the feds out until it was far too late. God forbid a few locals and a couple corrupt and thoroughly inept leaders get "insulted" as we mount an effort to save many 1000s of lives.

Better to just let people die, day in and day out.

Merica!

That jerkoff that was in the White House showed more concern for Treyvon Martin or Clarence Brown than he did for the TEN THOUSAND+ who were shot and/or murdered in his own HOME TOWN during his 2 terms. He did 1,000,000X more for Iran who would happily see us all dead than he has for stopping the endless murders in his own home town of Chicago..

Maybe someone should finally care?

Maybe someone should put their fucking foot down and stop it?

This shit has been going on for a very long time.... lets stop pretending the leadership there isn't 100% incompentent to do anything about it.

Ahhhh... shit. I keep forgetting... Black Lives don't actually matter.


Its fucking funny that you have a guy in the White House that has been talking about this more than the President did in 8 years and talking about stopping it... and when he starts to take action, he's Pol Pot or Hitler??? What a joke. Maybe it should it needs to be your child taking a bullet in the head while asleep in her crib? Your mom while walking down the sidewalk? Why not? You're totally ok with it happening to 1000s of others.... You're happy to take issue with the guy who would stop it after the local government has done jack fucking shit in decades.

Someone needs to walk through these neighborhoods and summarily execute every fucking known gang banger there is. But no, you'll bitch about that... as more and more kids die each day, most of them by accident caught in the cross fire. Countless 1000s murdered. 10's of 1000s shot in the last two decades. What is your plan besides attacking plans?

woj 01-29-2017 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 21497167)
Funny. i remember hurricane katrina and a governor and mayor that were both quite happy to let people die and keep the feds out until it was far too late. God forbid a few locals and a couple corrupt and thoroughly inept leaders get "insulted". Better to just let people die, day in and day out. Merica!

That jerkoff that was in the White House showed more concern for Treyvon Martin or Clarence Brown than he did for the TEN THOUSAND+ who were murdered in his own home town during his 2 terms.

Maybe someone should care?

Maybe someone should put their fucking foot down and stop it?

This shit has been going on for a very long time.... lets stop pretending the leadership there isn't 100% incompentent to do anything about it.

Ahhhh... shit. I keep forgetting... Black Lives don't actually matter.


Its fucking funny that you have a guy in the White House that has been talking about this more than the President did in 8 years and talking about stopping it... and when he starts to take action, he's Pol Pot or Hitler??? What a joke. Maybe it should it needs to be your child taking a bullet in the head while asleep in her crib? Your mom while walking down the sidewalk? Why not? You're totally ok with it happening to 1000s of others.... You're happy to take issue with the guy who would stop it after the local government has done jack fucking shit in decades.

Someone needs to walk through these neighborhoods and summarily execute every fucking known gang banger there is.

you should post more, you have this straight to the point, no bullshit way of phrasing things... :2 cents:

TheSquealer 01-29-2017 04:32 PM

290 shooting victims in Chicago for 2017 ALREADY.

But lets not insult a people or public official, no matter how little they care and how inept they are. Lets just let people die.

Merica!

Keep sending positive thoughts to Chicago Elli. Clearly it's helping.

TheSquealer 01-29-2017 04:36 PM

Chicago
JAN. 1, 2016 - DEC. 31, 2016
4,368 shooting victims

How many people were killed in Chicago in 2015?
The year-end crime statistics showed there were 468 murders in Chicago in 2015 compared with 416 the year before, a 12.5% increase, as well as 2,900 shootings—13% more than the year prior, and up 29% since 2013. Chicago had more homicides than any other city in 2015, according to the Chicago Tribune.Jan 2, 2016

BUT.... don't offend the mayor!

Don't hurt any feelings!!!

Let people die,... Let children die,... as long as you don't offend anyone!!

Don't try to save lives or you'll be called "Hitler" and "Pol Pot" by Liberals.

beerptrol 01-29-2017 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 21497227)
Chicago
JAN. 1, 2016 - DEC. 31, 2016
4,368 shooting victims

How many people were killed in Chicago in 2015?
The year-end crime statistics showed there were 468 murders in Chicago in 2015 compared with 416 the year before, a 12.5% increase, as well as 2,900 shootings—13% more than the year prior, and up 29% since 2013. Chicago had more homicides than any other city in 2015, according to the Chicago Tribune.Jan 2, 2016

BUT.... don't offend the mayor!

Don't hurt any feelings!!!

Let people die,... Let children die,... as long as you don't offend anyone!!

Don't forget...Let people die,...let children die...as long as you don't fuck with our 2nd amendment right!!!!!!!!

Bladewire 01-29-2017 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 21497227)
Chicago
JAN. 1, 2016 - DEC. 31, 2016
4,368 shooting victims

How many people were killed in Chicago in 2015?
The year-end crime statistics showed there were 468 murders in Chicago in 2015 compared with 416 the year before, a 12.5% increase, as well as 2,900 shootings?13% more than the year prior, and up 29% since 2013. Chicago had more homicides than any other city in 2015, according to the Chicago Tribune.Jan 2, 2016

BUT.... don't offend the mayor!

Don't hurt any feelings!!!

Let people die,... Let children die,... as long as you don't offend anyone!!

Don't try to save lives or you'll be called "Hitler" and "Pol Pot" by Liberals.

What was the 2016 murder rate?

762

609 were black

Why?

TheSquealer 01-29-2017 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 21497233)
Don't forget...Let people die,...let children die...as long as you don't fuck with our 2nd amendment right!!!!!!!!

A culture of killing has little to do with guns. it's mostly a cultural problem. A cultural problem for a segment of society who has been told nothing is their fault... ever and the message of "do whatcha gotsta do" has been re-inforced for many decades, rather than "be a good person, do the right thing, parent your children and you ANYONE be successful with a little drive and determination and get out of this place". We need to get back to parenting children rather than allowing a segment of society shit out kids day in and day out and neglect them and then cower when they say "mother fucker, you don't know me!" and then call you "racist" when you raise an eyebrow at a 3 year old playing on a busy street or outside at 1am.

We need to get back to a culture where being a good person, being honest and doing the right thing, treating others well and where success is respected and the goal. Not a culture where the lowest common denominator in some areas is dragging the rest down because no one can have an opinion anymore on their net impact on society without being called racist. They used to say "it takes a village to raise a kid"... now we're so far away from that because the worst of humanity is now allowed to tell everyone else they aren't entitled to an opinion about their parenting, their choices and how it affects everyone around them. The world was a much better place when that wasn't the case.

Personally, i don't care one way or another about guns. I dont care if they are banned or not. I don't have a problem with getting shot because i don't hang out where people get shot. I don't associate with people who shoot. Regardless, it's 100% irrelevant to the problem in Chicago. They have strict gun laws. One thing i do know is that the gangs, drug dealers and Cartels WILL ALWAYS HAVE GUNS and the shooting won't stop just because someone decided that their only option is to legally obtain weapons... and that they're suddenly going to fight over $1,000,000 a year street corners with dance-offs and Rock, Paper, Scissors.

Elli 02-03-2017 03:45 PM

Richman speaks on this article!
https://fs.wp.odu.edu/jrichman/2017/...n-times-piece/

I do not support the Washington Times Piece

Dear Washington Times,

As a primary author cited in this piece, I need to say that I think the Washington Times article (Hillary Clinton received 800,000 votes from noncitizens, bolsters Trump argument, study finds - Washington Times) is deceptive. It makes it sound like I have done a study concerning the 2016 election. I have not. What extrapolation I did to the 2016 election (https://fs.wp.odu.edu/jrichman/2016/...ss-to-clinton/) was purely and explicitly and exclusively for the purpose of pointing out that my 2014 study of the 2008 election did not provide evidence of voter fraud at the level some Trump administration people were claiming it did. I do not think that one should rely upon that extrapolation for any other purpose. And I do not stand behind that extrapolation if used for ANY other purpose.

Best Regards,

Jesse Richman



January 31 update

I had a very nice discussion with the author of the Washington Times article. He helped clear up some ways in which I and others had misunderstood his article. He clarified that he in no way intended to say I had new data for 2016 as I and others had read the piece to imply. And I apologized for my misreading of the piece. I sought to clarify that my key concern was that there is substantial uncertainty concerning the level of non-citizen voting in 2016 and I don’t want to get ahead of the data. As I have no national data specifically for 2016 I do not have a specific point estimate for that year.

GFED 02-03-2017 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Elli (Post 21495019)

Hmmm... all of those cities have something in common.
They're all shit holes.

Paul Markham 02-04-2017 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21491128)
She sill won the popular vote even if you deduct these imagined 800K from the tally Expert Ass Licker.

So, what is the point. Trump still lost the popular vote.

Big LOSER!!!

I see Josh can't count either.

The conservafart brain trust strikes.

If the rules were different, Trump would have campaigned differently.

If a less extreme talker had put forward the migration, trade and jobs policies Trump put forward, Clinton would have been trashed.

Paul Markham 02-04-2017 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 21491137)
Another idiot.. whines about fake news while posting in support of fake news. It's amazing how dumb you people are. You are what happens when we make the world safe enough for dumb people to survive..

Read it then comment. Did a Study Show That Hillary Clinton Received More Than 800,000 Votes from Non-Citizens in the 2016 Election? : snopes.com

Paul Markham 02-04-2017 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 21491371)
In imagination land..

Why are you pro illegal migration and the migration of people who might be terrorists?

Is being PC that important to you?

GFED 02-04-2017 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21515017)
Why are you pro illegal migration and the migration of people who might be terrorists?

Is being PC that important to you?

Yes... it's ironic that all these Christian hating lefties all love to kiss the ass of Muslims.

Best-In-BC 02-04-2017 06:35 PM

hahahaha


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