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ilnjscb 01-30-2017 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21500356)
Right. So when people disagree with YOU it's because of parisan media, but you didn't vote Trump, but support his bullshit. Got it :thumbsup
Are you trying to say "Parisian media"? You probably are. Bonehead, I don't "support his bullshit" I just don't believe in sitting around with my thumb up my ass in denial posting endless stupid posts on the internet.

If you oppose Trump by posting, you are making no difference other than demonstrating the need for enhanced spell checking.

If you actually care what happens, then call a few friends in swing states and convince them to vote next time.

Elli 01-30-2017 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 21500752)
From the article:
"Staging a no-fly zone requires either the assent of regional allies ... or an expensive, open-ended and risky deployment of aircraft carrier groups to the eastern Mediterranean."

Considering the GOP would probably still have won a ton of seats even if Clinton took the big prize, getting this kind of thing approved could take a very long time and a lot of effort. It seems like a rash plan, but she had to say something strong on the ISIS front to counter Trump's "number one tricky" plan of "getting rid of ISIS in 30 days." She was waging a war of sound bites by October, as we all know, and losing badly.

bronco67 01-30-2017 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 21500449)
I'd like to introduce you to the actual President Of The United States, an unmarried, lonely, angry, whiskey-soaked, pig fucker named Steve Bannon.


https://scontent.fapa1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...34&oe=590D7A78
Exactly....Donald Trump doesn't believe in anything except being president and the center of attention and adoration. The United States is being governed by the ideology of Breitbart.com.

ilnjscb 01-30-2017 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Elli (Post 21500404)
Trump is definitely the president.

Not enough people voted. For such a strong democracy, you guys really need to improve your voter turnout. Perhaps this cycle will help with that. Canada has lackluster numbers in this area, too.

Yes. Volunteer. Campaign. Protest if you feel strongly. Exercise your first amendment rights.

Since you claim "the papers" are partisan bullshit, where do you source your news from? Any unbiased sources you can recommend?
Right now, unfortunately, all the media outlets (do you prefer that term?) are somewhat to very partisan. The best I can recommend is for you to read those publications that frequently post from a POV with which you do NOT agree. This might at least give you sense of what is going on. So for you, that would be Drudge Report and Breitbart. For a Trump supporter, it would be CNN and Huffington.

The real issue is 77,000 votes in three states. Call your friends. Don't judge, listen. Urge them to vote. Drive them if needed. That will actually make a difference.

bronco67 01-30-2017 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 21500440)
True, but it also didn't exist in many other countries at some point in history. Things are changing and a demographic picture is also changing. Especially with Muslims. They can be peaceful for decades until they get critical mass. Were they so aggressive in the UK in previous years? You know the answer. I 've watched them in Kosovo, working on their goal for decades. Literally, whole faimiles were silently working on the same goal.Even preparing money to finance mess. Everyone was calm until it was too late and until terrorist attacks started.

Once violence starts, it is almost impossible to stop it. Yes, USA is better position just like it was in WW2, far away from mess, and better keep it that way. If POTUS sucks so much, he will loose on next elections. Stay proud and learn to loose sometimes, it is not the end of the world. Not even close. As far as I know, millions didn't vote. Educate them for the next time why it is important to do it.
Like I said....

https://www.google.com/maps/@31.891534,11.1095509,3.08z

Take a look at how close Europe is to the hornet's nest...and how far away we are in geographical terms. That counts for a whole lot as it pertains to radical Islam problems.

Elli 01-30-2017 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 21500746)
https://media.giphy.com/media/3oz8xL...VFtu/giphy.gif

As mentioned, that is your opinion based on your life experience. I could debate every single sentence of yours, whole night probably. (until now I've learned that is useless, because of many reasons that would again ask for tons of time spent to explain them. It is neverending spiral).

Personally, I've gone through coup d'etat, few wars (and witnessed psychological and sociological effects on the population) and a watched things Muslims are capable of doing that you probably never could even imagine people are doing. Otherwise, I think you would have a different opinion. Some of those things, I've tried to post here but were threatened to be banned for posting images of that nature. Obviously, people were not interested to investigate further on the subject as you are suggesting that they should.

In my case, I am trying to get as much data as possible if I am interested in some subject. So in my bookmark, I have American, Russian, Chinese, local and even Iranian news ( and I can spot a clear difference and a message behind the same news, depending on a source). This is just a response to your advice about getting news from more sources.

To put it in short. You people there are still well protected from what Muslims are bringing with them. From that point, the world must be looking different.Can't blame you. There were many who were using the same logic and thinking that it is possible to assimilate them long term. Near my place, there is a spot where middle east migrants are coming on their way in further illegal penetration in Europe. All I can say is that there is no normal person who would love to see them as neighbors or coworkers.
I'm glad you use many trusted news outlets as your preferred sources. It is also handy to keep an eye on the nutjob sources out there, to see what they are spouting to their rabid followers.

It sounds like you've been through a lot of political shakeup in your lifetime. That's good experience to advise people who are looking at the possibility of the same in the States. Do you honestly believe that the Muslims being allowed into the States as the very slow trickle of highly vetted refugees were going to be a problem down the road? Would money not be better spent making sure that American mosques don't have any radical leaders in them, and making sure the children are being sent to mainstream schools instead of traditional Muslim schools? Surely there must be a better way than an all-out ban?

poncabare 01-30-2017 06:25 PM
weak parasites who live off the state, who all got a participation ribbons cannot deal with reality

xXXtesy10 01-30-2017 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 21500500)
elli nude i agree to whatever you say. :)
but you no gang banger?

Elli 01-30-2017 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 21500782)
Right now, unfortunately, all the media outlets (do you prefer that term?) are somewhat to very partisan. The best I can recommend is for you to read those publications that frequently post from a POV with which you do NOT agree. This might at least give you sense of what is going on. So for you, that would be Drudge Report and Breitbart. For a Trump supporter, it would be CNN and Huffington.

The real issue is 77,000 votes in three states. Call your friends. Don't judge, listen. Urge them to vote. Drive them if needed. That will actually make a difference.
Since you asked, my preferred news sources are:
The Economist (slightly left leaning)
Al Jazeera English
The Washington Post (used to be right leaning?)
The Guardian
The CBC (very left leaning)
PBS News Hour (fairly balanced from what I have seen so far)
NHK World
BBC World
and I keep an eye on RT America for shits n giggles.

I tried reading Breitbart, but their "articles" were all opinion pieces with no actual sources and their titles are just obnoxious clickbait. I wouldn't consider them a news source at all. I haven't read the Drudge Report in years. Huffington Post is like "AOL News:lite". It's just as click-baity as Breitbart.

77k votes are the real issue? I disagree. I think the real issue at hand is Trump driving the bus off a cliff to prove that he is in control of the steering wheel. 77k votes are a project for a few years from now.

ilnjscb 01-30-2017 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Elli (Post 21500833)
Since you asked, my preferred news sources are:
The Economist (slightly left leaning)
Al Jazeera English
The Washington Post (used to be right leaning?)
The Guardian
The CBC (very left leaning)
PBS News Hour (fairly balanced from what I have seen so far)
NHK World
BBC World
and I keep an eye on RT America for shits n giggles.

I tried reading Breitbart, but their "articles" were all opinion pieces with no actual sources and their titles are just obnoxious clickbait. I wouldn't consider them a news source at all. I haven't read the Drudge Report in years. Huffington Post is like "AOL News:lite". It's just as click-baity as Breitbart.

77k votes are the real issue? I disagree. I think the real issue at hand is Trump driving the bus off a cliff to prove that he is in control of the steering wheel. 77k votes are a project for a few years from now.
The WaPo is left.

We'll then we'll agree to disagree. I think the Sturm und Drang is pointless, and we need to focus on 18 and 20 with real preparation and action. If you believe there is another way, then best of luck.

Elli 01-30-2017 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 21500923)
The WaPo is left.

We'll then we'll agree to disagree. I think the Sturm und Drang is pointless, and we need to focus on 18 and 20 with real preparation and action. If you believe there is another way, then best of luck.
And good luck to you in your own efforts!

I think "sturm und drang" might be a misnomer, as that seems to be what Trump's approach was to the election and the response is quite logical and reasoned as a pushback against his alternative-fact appeal to emotions above all else.

klinton 01-31-2017 02:41 AM
a) did you try to leave your mass media bubble for a while ? as long as there will be loonies and bad guys, there will be always a terror...it is not something to get rid off by 100 %... how many people are dying in car accidents per year in France and how many in terrorists attacks (that are not car "accidents" lol) ? if you are sheep to be ruled by fear, well then you are sheep. Not saying that letting in milions of people without any checks on them was a wise thing to do though
b) too bad that you are hero Trump was saying completely different thing back then when the war in Iraq just started.

You are putting so much faith in this guy that is rather funny and amusing, he is your ideal cure for all your bitterness, maybe you will get wiser after few years and see that this change wasnt actually for better but for worse. but it will be too late prolly for that, like it is always is for short sighted people.

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 21500131)
Tip: Leave that bubble once in a while to get a dose of reality. People are being blown, shot up and run over by Isis members who travelled along with the huge immigrant wave her in Europe.

Throw millions of people of a women- and western culture hating ideology in a western society and you get a culture clash. Simple logic. Add in traveling Isis members to the mix and the melting pot of chaos and mayhem is complete.

But please, continue to believe in fairy tales! Go spread your message to the families of the dead and raped :thumbsup


FYI trump is the only one who publicly spoke out that Iraq and Libya would be better off without any war mongering by the US. Yet you libs condemn him and embrace the war mongering establishment of the Clintons = Obama = Bush. I thought you guys were anti war?

klinton 01-31-2017 02:51 AM
and yeah, this thread wouldn't be complete without femdomdestiny's input of course :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:winkwink::winkwink::winkwink:

wehateporn 01-31-2017 02:54 AM
Elli,

The Economist - Rothschild i.e. Western propaganda

Al Jazeera - Western propaganda for the Arab world (a small bit of truth thrown in too now and again)

The Washington Post - Fake News

The Guardian - Well written and sourced, but also filled with propaganda (global warming, vaccines, EU etc)

The CBC - Fake News

PBS News Hour - Fake News

NHK World - I've never tried it, will check it out

BBC World - BBC is official Western propaganda

RT America - Very good choice, they will tell you things that your own media won't. Of course they have their own propaganda about their own country, but they are in a position to tell you the truth about US/Europe.

If you want to find out some stories which the mainstream media are trying to avoid, you will often find it posted here

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/

Major (Tom) 01-31-2017 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 21500434)
Reddit = fake news. It is the free buffet of fake news

wehateporn 01-31-2017 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 21500434)
That's just a propaganda post by a sockpuppet, be careful about taking stuff on Reddit at facevalue :2 cents:

_Richard_ 01-31-2017 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 21500449)
I'd like to introduce you to the actual President Of The United States, an unmarried, lonely, angry, whiskey-soaked, pig fucker named Steve Bannon.


https://scontent.fapa1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...34&oe=590D7A78
the speech he gave in the Vatican was really disturbing

ilnjscb 01-31-2017 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Elli (Post 21500944)
And good luck to you in your own efforts!

I think "sturm und drang" might be a misnomer, as that seems to be what Trump's approach was to the election and the response is quite logical and reasoned as a pushback against his alternative-fact appeal to emotions above all else.
" extremes of emotion were given free expression in reaction to the perceived...." I think I hit it spot on. This is a human that can easily be defeated IMHO, and he isn't going to overthrow the government just like Obama wasn't going to go for anyone's guns. This heightened state of "war" is a fund raising tactic and a tragic result of our two party system.

Honestly reminds me of my friend's divorce where every single thing the other person does is seen from the most damning perspective, and they are treated as the basest demon wearing flesh.

We'll have to agree to disagree again.

Yanks_Todd 02-01-2017 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21500284)
I find this hard to believe.

Our military has always leaned Republican, but keeps out of political issues.

I am on a lot of military message boards and Facebook groups, and I haven't seen anything of the sort.
A good friend of mine whom I did happy hour while in the states with is an Army Lieutenant Colonel and runs a Battalion that does officer training. He is considering leaving his position specifically because he fears he is training new officers that will be set out to run ops of questionable ethics. There is some thought going into where this is all headed.

Yanks_Todd 02-01-2017 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 21502069)
the speech he gave in the Vatican was really disturbing
I read it and you are correct. It was absolutely disturbing. :thumbsup

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-01-2017 06:33 AM
More FAKE NEWS

candyflip 02-01-2017 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 21500377)
Don't compare the situation in the US to the situation in Europe when it comes to Islamic terrorism. In France there are communities full of Muslims with festering pockets of radicals, ready to plot and carry out attacks.

That doesn't exist in the United STates, nor will it any time soon mainly by virtue of our geography. The middle east is a hop, skip and jump from the Europe. We're in a much better neighborhood being bordered by Mexico and Canada.

Trump is creating a lot of chaos and a solution for a problem that doesn't exist. Actually, it would be wrong to say it doesn't exist at all, but not in a magnitude that calls for what he just did to make his rabid base happy.
They just sentenced someone here where I live for planning to carry out an attack on New Years last year, in the name of ISIS. For you to say this doesn't exist in the US is flat out false.

Steve Rupe 02-01-2017 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21500284)
I find this hard to believe.

Our military has always leaned Republican, but keeps out of political issues.

I am on a lot of military message boards and Facebook groups, and I haven't seen anything of the sort.
You are correct if you are referring to military leadership but no necessarily the lower echelon rank and file though I do think probably a small majority exists there as well.

Steve Rupe 02-01-2017 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 21505558)
They just sentenced someone here where I live for planning to carry out an attack on New Years last year, in the name of ISIS. For you to say this doesn't exist in the US is flat out false.
That is not what he said.

faxxaff 02-02-2017 04:59 AM
Coolest conspiracy theory on GFY for long time.

Elli 02-02-2017 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by faxxaff (Post 21508741)
Coolest conspiracy theory on GFY for long time.
Right? I've got my hat on, but the shiny side might be facing the wrong way. Should it be in or out?

brassmonkey 02-02-2017 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Elli (Post 21509869)
Right? I've got my hat on, but the shiny side might be facing the wrong way. Should it be in or out?
who cares?? you are hot!

Linkster 02-02-2017 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 21505462)
More FAKE NEWS
Getting kinda old...Yes we all know that if you don't agree with the news it is Fake - you and wehateporn have overdone that drivel

Elli 02-02-2017 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 21510091)
who cares?? you are hot!
In Other News: Women can have interesting thoughts and participate in interesting conversations! :thumbsup

But hey, thanks for the compliment. :banana:banana

Rochard 02-02-2017 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 21510091)
who cares?? you are hot!
I've been working with Elli on a few things over the past few months.... Not only is she beautiful, but also super smart.

And that is a dangerous combination in our industry.


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