Ok so this explains it thank you!

Putin tells Russians Ukraine is run by Nazis and must be stopped.

Putin arms Eastern Ukrain on Russian border.

Putin slowly expands Russian border West, town by town, cutting off electricity and randomly bombing, causing instability and forcing people to move West.

You are missing the point... again.

Explain....

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http://facepalm.motifake.com/image/d...1245384435.jpg

thanks for your view of that.
as i said there are so many issues in this world that it is really impossible to get behind every curtain espeacially because neutral informations are hard to find.

but i am always interessted in everything what happend around the world and try to count 1 and 1 together. i have studied economy and i am a full blood marketer from my soul. and that leads me to an aspect what is not that much in the focus of all public discussions.

at the end of the day there is only ONE thing what rules the world and that is money.

the biggest (export) industry in the world - far bigger than any other - is the weapon industry. the yearly budgets for weapons in the world is at the moment on this number:

1.120.586.424.900,-- US

that is around 20% higher as the complete revenues of the worldwide pharmaindustry.

sure there are also exhibitions around the world where potential buyers can order weapons. but how can they knwo that their enemy did not buy something better? how can they know if a weaporn will do the job in a serious confrontation?

the 6 biggest exporters of weapons in the world are

number 1: USA
number 2: Russia
number 3. China
number 4: Germany
number 5: France
number 6: UK

so now imagine the formula one.

the big players there are
ferrari, mercedes, bmw and a few more.

if mercedes win the formula one the sales of this brand will increase SIGNIFICANT.

what i mean is - and yes i do not mean that as a joke because i believe it is the sad truth - that wars in the world are nothing else than the formula one of killing.

THERE they can show and competite in an existing conflict who makes the better weapons and sell more.

since 1945 all the mentioned parties had never a direct war in between them. but whenever a conflict in the world was, you could see that is is a competition of material delivery.

HOW COMES that formula one is existing??
because there are many people who like it!

HOW CAN weapon industry be able to create "FORMULA ONE WARS" ?
because they made people HATE each other - that does not mean that people love wars but it make them think they are nessecary.

and i think that is one if not THE ONE basic problem.

greetings
thommy

Ukraine president Poroshenko: "Their children will hole up in the basements - this is how we win the war!" [ENG SUBS]

What is your point?

Ukrainian right-wing party gained about 1% of votes during the parliament elections and failed to secure any seats on the Government.

So yeah, Russian propaganda is spewing bullshit about Nazis. Putin is a bonafide fascist dictator himself.


He doesn't arm eastern Ukraine. There is no one to arm. Well, there is a handful of losers who never wanted to work - like chronic alcoholics drug and addicts so now they earn their keep by fighting in the war. They also freed up all the prisons in exchange that the prisoners would fight. But the main force is Putin's modern russian army standing in there who do all the fighting. You think some rabble could use artillery? SAMs? Tanks and rocket launch systems and keep a whole countries' Army at bay?


Putin already took a chunk of Ukrainian territory by force (he admitted it himself, that the russian army secured the territory). He now is trying to cause as much havoc as possible in the east. Because it destabilizes the whole country.



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That's not what is being said in the video. It's a fake russian propaganda.

What's he saying is that the eastern cities are choosing war and ruin over peaceful life.


Because it already happened and is happening right now in the east.

Duh.

Russians firing multiple launch rocket systems from the border:




Rockets hitting the city

- Ukrainians [sarcasm]not neonazi[/sarcasm] why you bomb own citizen?
- because their children choose it

So you think it's more of a civil war in Ukraine and Putin is arming the side friendly to him? Do you think Putin wants to take over Ukraine (little Russia)?

This is awful to see I hate war. I feel bad for these innocent peaceful people :(

I think ex ukraine president's clan (located in russia) want it - come back their business. Them support local ukraine people in "little russia". What profit from it for Putin i am not see. But the US military base we do not want over there.

This and it's not like the fighting has ever really stopped. They shoot at each other saily, it's just not reported.

Happening what? Do you really think that IF Putin will decide to gain over the whole Ukraine, the army won't do it in 24 hours? What do you smoke, man? Send that shit over here :1orglaugh

That's silly you don't want US troops there so you attack and invade a sovereign nation causing all the countries in Europe to beef up their troops in those areas as well as request more US troops as back up.

Seems your actions do not match your wants..

So Putin is killing these innocent people until sanctions are lifted, or until he is paid?

Ukrainian president urges Donald Trump to keep sanctions on Russia

HELSINKI (Reuters) ? Ukraine?s president said on Tuesday world powers should keep sanctions on Russia, rejecting U.S. President Donald Trump?s proposal to consider reducing the penalties if Moscow proved a useful ally.

Petro Poroshenko told reporters that sanctions remained the only way to keep Russia at the negotiating table over the crisis in eastern Ukraine, that Western powers say has been fueled by Moscow.

I have posed the videos above. Have you seen them? Can you see flying Putin there? Ok, I'll repost it again (Waring, it's graphic):



These are Ukrainian citizens. They are not rebels and they are not Putin's soldiers. They are civilians. The Ukrainian civilians. They were attacked by the regular Ukrainian army aviation. Still have questions where the Ukrainian rebels are came from and what do they fight for?

Yes I see thank you :thumbsup

I don't understand what you are going to say. If Russia would want to invade the Ukraine, it would be already invaded and annexed just like Crimea.

It seems he's just showing that he's a threat and helping in the murder of the people so he'll get sanctions lifted and/or get paid.

Let's take a brief course of English then: proxy wars vs invasion :winkwink:

For example, the annexation of Crimea was a military invasion:

yet controlled most of the major cabinet positions..

You are an American living in the USA, why do you talk about foreign issues?



See how retarded that argument is? :1orglaugh

its funny how a foreigner feeds you a perspective & you eat it up so well that you go from "russia is invading ukraine" to "putin is just playing politics" just like that. you have no idea if he's accurate in his assertions!

& yet you reveal your bias...because you speculate with no proof as to putins negative intentions. this is the flimsy nonsense you base your whole politics on...delusions & speculations with no basis.

you're a dumbass. a mal-educated dolt with no accomplishment on the resume. & the symbol of the decline of our once great nation. Now im gonna go to my job, while you go sell drugs.

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hey bladewire...you are listening to people who are trump supporters!!!. check their posts. FYI, dumb lib!!!

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its double retarded because he attacks you for it yet does it himself. how dumb is that!

thats why i call them dumb libs.

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You're talking out of your ass. All cabinet positions are controlled by the ruling party (which is NOT alt-right). Right wing is not represented ANYWHERE (not the government, not the cabinet, nowhere. They have NO power, other than protest in the streets and make angry blog posts)

The few right-wing activists want to go to a full out war. President and his cabinet refuses to even declare a "state of war". Officially what going on in the east is called a "counter-terrorist operation"


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First USA invasion was from CIA, after capture power they start civil war in east ukraine against they who will be against this usa invasion. Rebels start asymmetric war

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tKf3ONByaM...riPechenki.jpg

http://russia-insider.com/sites/insi...Jan-9/2266.jpg

After in ukraine coming usa airborn
173rd Airborne Brigade arrives in Ukraine for Fearless Guardian
https://www.army.mil/article/146549

Then in East europe USA send tanks

US to send tanks, helicopters & 6,000 troops to join 1st E. Europe armored brigade deployment
https://www.rt.com/news/365319-us-ta...astern-europe/

PS: yes in russia too have people who want this war and make money on it - and for make political points. they put SS-26 Stone in kaliningrad, strategic bombers in crimea and ships with cruise missiles in black sea. it prepare ww3

Our UN ambasador just said sanctions will remain on Russia for eternity as long as they occupy Crimea.

I have never heard about the US sanctions against Russia. You are not our trading partner, so you can't affect us in any way. These sanctions work for the Putin's friends-oligarchs only. Those can not keep their money in your banks and they can't visit their villas and palaces in the USA anymore. As a Russian citizen I don't see anything bad in these sanctions and I support them. Crimea will never been "returned" to the Ukraine and that's a fact. Maybe the USA will be returned to the Great Britain soon, but Crimea will remain in Russia. It's a Russian territory. Period. So I hope the sanctions will never been lifted - I like 'em, because they are a cold shower for our internal thieves and corruptionists. Fuck 'em :thumbsup

Putin Admits Sanctions Hurt & Sapping Russia

Yes fuck the internal thieves! We have them here too :disgust

Show me anything admitted by Putin, which was a truth? He uses the speeches of your weak-minded clown Obama to justify his own faults. The oil prices have dropped and the ruble rate has followed them as usually. What Putin did? He said don't blame me, blame Obama, he has confirmend that he did it:



The Russian propaganda shows these videos again and again and again... They say: "you see, Obama is the only person to blame for. Putin is good, Obama is bad". This is how is works and this is why your former president is a stupid piece of shit. The one and only factor that affects ruble is shown here:

https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qim...6ac5dc3133b21d

http://www.slate.com/content/dam/sla...ediumlarge.png

BTW, the same picture works fine for CAD (the Canadian Dollar) as well. Can you see there any "sanctions"? I can't and any sane person can't see 'em too (your country is NOT our business partner, not even in top 10). But the brainwashed idiots believe to Putin who blames Obama for that, using his own words as a proof. Right now it works just fine. That's how the anti-Putin protests were stopped here and that's how America has became the main enemy for Russians today. Thanks to Obama.

The speech of your former president above is a classic case of the pro-Putin's propaganda. I always thought that Putin pays to your idiot for that... When oil prices have dropped, the ruble rate has dropped too and the people started asking questions. And vualá Putin is here to say "that's because of sanctions!" "Sancti-what?" asked him babushkas? "Sanctions by Obama", said Putin and showed them one of those epic Obama's speeches.

It is not bad too. if Putin will not build a normal economy him kick ass :1orglaugh

ukrainian troops attacked the rebels and got a hit back.
another break of minsk agreements by ukrainian regime

simple as 1-2-3

after rivers of blood in 2014, south-east of ukraine doesnt want to live with the west of ukraine. civil war at its best