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thommy 02-12-2017 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21537505)
LOL.

this trump guy used his mouth, his money & his jet to outwit 2 political parties, an establishment media & a very loud hollywood & earned the victory, despite being 3 million votes less popular. he spent like 50 million to hilarys 500 million. she had all the media behind her. he beat all of it.

but he's dumb.

you guys are fucking idiots!

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

in one thing you are really correct with this statement. he was the guy who did not overestimate the intelligence of the voters.
he just told them what they can imagine and that was it.
he never tried to explain things as they are (because he doesnīt know either)
he just gave them a few enemies and ignored every advice from people who should know it better because they also donīt have the words to explain complicated circumstances to undereducated idiots.

if you just take the undereducated and the corrupt people out his result would be at 0,5% and this 0,5% are the ones who are protesting against the system itself.

thommy 02-12-2017 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 21537817)
Hillary would have been a total disaster

Trump was the clear choice

just think about ONE thing (if you can)

WHY did ALL enemies of America HOPE that he will win?

Tasty1 02-12-2017 09:33 AM

What did Trump do? I don't see negative points yet :)
the sun shines, blue sea, beautiful women.
What is the problem?

SilentKnight 02-12-2017 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21537841)
just think about ONE thing (if you can)

WHY did ALL enemies of America HOPE that he will win?

I'm Canadian.

I hoped Trump would win.

By your conclusion...Canada is an enemy of America?

bronco67 02-12-2017 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21537514)

You know who repeats over and over how smart they are? Someone who is not very smart.

nico-t 02-12-2017 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete (Post 21536743)
and Hilary would have been a good choice....

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Bladewire 02-12-2017 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 21537889)
I'm Canadian.

I hoped Trump would win.

By your conclusion...Canada is an enemy of America?




:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


nico-t 02-12-2017 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 21537496)
Thommy, he's just another retard you are wasting your time on :2 cents:

that 'retard', despite some of the occasional 'out there' theories he posts, is a whole lot smarter and knows a lot more about what is going on in the world than you, my friend :thumbsup

Bladewire 02-12-2017 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 21538405)
that 'retard', despite some of the occasional 'out there' theories he posts, is a whole lot smarter and knows a lot more about what is going on in the world than you, my friend :thumbsup

You wouldn't say that if you knew who StefanG is :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh. You're cute but not that smart. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Busty2 02-12-2017 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 21537760)
If you're US Cit. tell me what you got on your SAT or your GRE (or equivalent) and I'll tell you what your IQ is within a 5pt range.

Resident Alien

nico-t 02-12-2017 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21537772)
That's what's fucked about your mind. No matter how bad Donald fucks America you'll feel Clinton would have been worse, which is a false narrative.

You're reality is based on false narratives & consuming/spreading disinformation to placate your false world view of America never landing on the moon and being a world terrorist nation. Your head is so fucked you support a billionaire globalist war minger who you think is anti globalist anti war!!!!

Hillary openly pushed for war with Russia. Openly, it was on tv, you know that precious mainstream media that you're all watching.

It also was in the final presidential debate between the two, where she got a question about ISIS (terrorists wreaking havoc and murdering civilians in the middle east & europe in case you forgot), and she didn't mention ISIS ONCE! She spun that question in a rant against Russia, you know the ones FIGHTING ISIS! WTF

She mentioned ISIS ZERO times, and Russia about 20 times. Please watch it again i am sure it's on youtube. It was such a blatant attempt to spread the agenda of a war against Russia. Again, ignoring ISIS, you know those guys who kill, rape and terrorize civilians in the Middle east & Europe - those guys what the question was actually about.

That moment, to me, was the sign that Clinton should never be president for the sake of humanity. And fortunately a lot of other people thought the same way. We dodged a bullet.

nico-t 02-12-2017 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21538414)
You wouldn't say that if you knew who StefanG is :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh. You're cute but not that smart. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Ummm... yes i know who he is. Madalton, known to parrot whatever old media propagandizes here in Europe.


...nice try though. I love it when people think they outsmart me, but eventually make a fool of themselves instead :1orglaugh you are the master at this btw :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Rochard 02-12-2017 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 21538444)
Hillary openly pushed for war with Russia. Openly, it was on tv, you know that precious mainstream media that you're all watching.

She did? Let's see some video footage.

nico-t 02-12-2017 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21538507)
She did? Let's see some video footage.

You had your chance when it was on TV several times in the run up to the elections, since they tried to condition the general public to hate Russia and see them as the enemy.
It worked though, ask someone you know what they think of Russia and the brainwashed will say 'they are dangerous' or 'i don't like them'. An idea planted into their heads 100% by old media.

Anyway it's probably all over youtube so not that hard to find i'd imagine.

nico-t 02-12-2017 01:57 PM

here is a little compilation:


wehateporn 02-12-2017 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21538507)
She did? Let's see some video footage.

CNN didn't tell you soldier? Hillary would have forced you out of retirement

Could Hillary Clinton start a world war? Sure as hell she could – and here’s how | The Independent

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-russia-us-war

Jill Stein: Hillary Clinton's Declared Syria Policy Could Start A Nuclear War | Video | RealClearPolitics

thommy 02-12-2017 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 21537889)
I'm Canadian.

I hoped Trump would win.

By your conclusion...Canada is an enemy of America?

you are Canadian - you are not Canada !

wait til he cancels NAFTA

Bladewire 02-12-2017 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 21538522)
here is a little compilation:

Trump is more of a war monger, maybe you missed him saying he'd go-to nuclear war over an ISIS attack. Not to mention in his FIRST 7 DAYS authorized the attack in Yemen, that failed, and has authorized 5 drone strikes in the last 3 weeks.






wehateporn 02-12-2017 02:44 PM

What would be the point in having nuclear weapons if you had admitted you would never use them? Trump understands they are to be used as a deterrent, hence one doesn't take them off the table

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21538603)
Trump is more of a war monger, maybe you missed him saying he'd go-to nuclear war over an ISIS attack. Not to mention in his FIRST 7 DAYS authorized the attack in Yemen, that failed, and has authorized 5 drone strikes in the last 3 weeks.







BlackCrayon 02-12-2017 02:50 PM

no one who voted for trump actually thought he'd be a good president. they just did it for the lulz and to give the middle finger to the pc libbys. and now some, like nico-t has gone from lulz to hardcore defender, pretty funny.

Bladewire 02-12-2017 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 21538609)
What would be the point in having nuclear weapons if you had admitted you would never use them? Trump understands they are to be used as a deterrent, hence one doesn't take them off the table

You blind Donald followers are like bible thumping religious freaks, you pick and choose what to believe.

The Donald followers who didn't believe he'd get rid of Obama care or build the wall because it was just "rhetoric" , and as he moved to do what he said Republicans push back in fear... Obama care repeal backlash so it's stalled. Building the wall backlash so it's stalled :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Trump just did an interview where he stated "I do everything I say I'll do" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Tasty1 02-12-2017 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21538639)
You blind Donald followers are like bible thumping religious freaks, you pick and choose what to believe.

The Donald followers who didn't believe he'd get rid of Obama care or build the wall because it was just "rhetoric" , and as he moved to do what he said Republicans push back in fear... Obama care repeal backlash so it's stalled. Building the wall backlash so it's stalled :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Trump just did an interview where he stated "I do everything I say I'll do" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Isn't that smart? Win the elections with these points and now he can blame others when it won't go trough. A real politician! But it is never good, people who liked obamacare or where against the wall aren't happy that those plannes are stalled, they keep whining. There are people that never will be happy.

Pete 02-12-2017 03:14 PM

Trump is trying to improve relations with Russia. I guess that's one good thing he is doing. I cant think of anything else.

Bladewire 02-12-2017 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete (Post 21538675)
Trump is trying to improve relations with Russia. I guess that's one good thing he is doing. I cant think of anything else.

I like the immigration enforcement going on against immigrants with criminal records, it's a but too heavy handed in implementation but I like it overall, but they say that's residual from Obama so who knows.

crockett 02-12-2017 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 21538609)
What would be the point in having nuclear weapons if you had admitted you would never use them? Trump understands they are to be used as a deterrent, hence one doesn't take them off the table

It's funny watching you go from anti govt goon to pro govt goon overnight..

Pete 02-12-2017 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21538699)
I like the immigration enforcement going on against immigrants with criminal records, it's a but too heavy handed in implementation but I like it overall, but they say that's residual from Obama so who knows.

I'll agree with you on that. He certainly comes across the wrong way with his heavy hand way of making decisions.

Tasty1 02-12-2017 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21538699)
I like the immigration enforcement going on against immigrants with criminal records, it's a but too heavy handed in implementation but I like it overall, but they say that's residual from Obama so who knows.

In Holland a filmmaker made a documentary about refugees. The movie stated that it is impossible to prevent criminal refugees, war terrorist and others to come in cause of the many laws that are in their favour. The documentary was scheduled before the elections next month, but the public television moved it after the elections.....

There is the problem of curent politicians. And than people just vote. stop all immigration. And they are right. If every criminal can walk in freely. There is no other option, vote on Wilders, or nothing will change. The USA has its Trump, Holland has Wilders. And everybody could see it coming, but the politicians didn't listen.

thommy 02-12-2017 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 21538621)
no one who voted for trump actually thought he'd be a good president. they just did it for the lulz and to give the middle finger to the pc libbys. and now some, like nico-t has gone from lulz to hardcore defender, pretty funny.

i would not say NO ONE - here you can see some of those individuals who really MEANT IT.
when i heard that trump won the elections my first reaction was "these americans are fucking funny" but now i see that most of them are not funny at all and not intelligent enough to make such a worldwide joke.

wehateporn 02-12-2017 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21538783)
i would not say NO ONE - here you can see some of those individuals who really MEANT IT.
when i heard that trump won the elections my first reaction was "these americans are fucking funny" but now i see that most of them are not funny at all and not intelligent enough to make such a worldwide joke.

The US had got so corrupt it cannot be denied, it was only going to get worse i.e. more wars, loss of freedoms etc, but now Trump gives us all hope, sure the establishment and media will make it a constant battle, but by banning lobbyists that gets his presidency off to an fantastic start. Next he can do more good stuff with Russia and kick the ass of Big Pharma :thumbsup

John Pilger speaks the truth


Bladewire 02-12-2017 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 21538756)
In Holland a filmmaker made a documentary about refugees. The movie stated that it is impossible to prevent criminal refugees, war terrorist and others to come in cause of the many laws that are in their favour. The documentary was scheduled before the elections next month, but the public television moved it after the elections.....

There is the problem of curent politicians. And than people just vote. stop all immigration. And they are right. If every criminal can walk in freely. There is no other option, vote on Wilders, or nothing will change. The USA has its Trump, Holland has Wilders. And everybody could see it coming, but the politicians didn't listen.

Crime, drugs, illegal immigration, porn, etc. None of these things will ever stop. Even Australia, who throws all illegal immigrants into detention centers, has tons of illegal immigrants coming in.

All our lives politicians say one thing and do little no exceptions.

wehateporn 02-12-2017 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21538843)
All our lives politicians say one thing and do little no exceptions.

Agreed! Good job Trump is a businessman and not a career politician :thumbsup

thommy 02-12-2017 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 21538801)
The US had got so corrupt it cannot be denied, it was only going to get worse i.e. more wars, loss of freedoms etc,

i have no doubt about that the was and IS a problem in the american system what have to be eliminated.
i also that britain for their brexit - not because they will get any profit from it but maybe it helps to wake up the idiots in the EU parlament.

but the brexit will only hit biritain and not the whole world.

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but now Trump gives us all hope, sure the establishment and media will make it a constant battle, but by banning lobbyists that gets his presidency off to an fantastic start.
did you realize that trump is part of this establishment and lobbyists and that the rest of them is in his team?

did you realize the US media NEVER made such a noise before - no matter who the president was?

did you ever THINK about the word establishment and itīs meaning?
the establishment includes not only rich or powerful people - it includes also the elite (means: this person who have studied their job and have a lot of knowledge about it).
do you want to run a country without elite? with stupids? undereducated ?
that sound a bit like communism to me.

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Next he can do more good stuff with Russia and kick the ass of Big Pharma :thumbsup

i am pretty sure that he will not do anything against Russia. letīs just expect for 1 minute that it is true and they helped him in the elections.
in what position is he with russia then?

in that case, they have him in their hands and he will make sit like a dog when they tell him to do.

just IMAGIN that this would be true (what either you or me can prove or reject) - he can not say a word against putin anymore (and if so it is for the show and agreed with moskow) because if they open this secret box - he is out of the white house in less than a week.

and away from that - this guy do not believe in our environment problem. he knows that he is 71 years old and whatever happens it will happen AFTER him. there are MANY politicians in the history who acted the same.
famous chancellor konrad adenauer got told that the german "generation packt" what shall secure the pensions for the older people will not work long. he asked ludwig erhardt "how long?" and erhard said "approximately 50 years" and adenauer said " i donīt care - then i am dead".

only for THIS mistake, every german worker has to pay today per month 19% of his income and til 2030 it will be 22%.

trump does not care ANYBODY - not even his own children because if he would care, he would not want that they will live in a world what will be a disaster in 20 or 25 years.

he would not even THINK in phrases like " we nuke korea and isis" because if he would do that he nukes amerika. the global fallout would damage the complete planet.

and what will he do with the pharma industry?
to WHAT he want to force them? first of all the biggest pharma companies are not in usa they are in switzerland. second of all usa needs the pharma industry and not the pharma industry need usa - they have their clients all around the world and this are over 8 BILLION.
thrid of all is this the biggest corruption industry after the weapon producers. they bought trump already long ago and they have much more power than any president in the world.
and YES THIS IS SHIT and it have to be changed. but you can not send a goat to be the gardener.

i am really looking forward to the elections ins france where this really tough young guy macron have a fair chance to win. he is an outsider too - he is not even in a party.
guys like him is what the world need to kickass the established parties what only sitting on their lazy asses and get paid for it. we do not need trumps an le pens what are far from reality.

trump will not go over the next 4 years - I a pretty sure that - and i really hope that he was at least good for a wake up call and keep his hands out of the dangerous stuff til then.

Bladewire 02-12-2017 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 21538978)
Agreed! Good job Trump is a businessman and not a career politician :thumbsup

You're not American.

In America, the president is a politician.

Man you are such a sycophant follower, poor fella.

pol·i·ti·cian
ˌpäləˈtiSHən

noun

A person who acts in a manipulative and devious way, typically to gain advancement within an organization.

A person who is professionally involved in politics, especially as a holder of or a candidate for an elected office.

wehateporn 02-13-2017 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21539119)
You're not American.

In America, the president is a politician.

It's often easier for people on the outside to make sense of what's really going on :2 cents:

NewNick 02-13-2017 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 21537817)
Hillary would have been a total disaster

Trump was the clear choice

Funny thing is though Johnn-Boi, you are in the minority there, by several million.

The clear choice for millions was actually Hillary.

The Orange Emperor became POTUS for the following reasons :

a) Quirk of chance of the electoral college system.
b) Political interference by the FBI.
c) Gerrymandering by foreign powers.
d) Vast capacity for consumption of snake oil by the electorate.
e) Apathy.

ISIS must be dancing in streets every night. The chaos they aspire to wreak is enacted by the fucking electorate.

:2 cents:

wehateporn 02-13-2017 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21539101)
i also that britain for their brexit - not because they will get any profit from it but maybe it helps to wake up the idiots in the EU parlament.

but the brexit will only hit biritain and not the whole world.

The same forces that made Brexit happen also made Trump happen, most people aren't aware of that as these forces like to remain in the shadows.

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21539101)
did you realize that trump is part of this establishment and lobbyists and that the rest of them is in his team?

He's a wealthy businessman, but he is not meant to be there, he is not representing Soros, Rothschild, Rockefeller and Co, that is why the media is going berserk, if Trump was meant to be there the media would sing his praises.

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21539101)
did you realize the US media NEVER made such a noise before - no matter who the president was?

Because the US people are normally given two controlled candidates who the corporate media are in bed with, this time Trump broke the system, he wasn't meant to be there.

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21539101)
did you ever THINK about the word establishment and itīs meaning?
the establishment includes not only rich or powerful people - it includes also the elite

Trump's role was meant to be to lobby the politicians for his businesses, he wasn't meant to become a politician, Trump taking over is a coup.

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21539101)
do you want to run a country without elite? with stupids? undereducated ?
that sound a bit like communism to me.

When the elite are so corrupt, planning WW3, anything is better.


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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21539101)
Russia/Putin

Putin is a hero of many, he is a stabilizing force in the world right now, so for a US president to work with him is music to the ears.

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21539101)
trump does not care ANYBODY - not even his own children because if he would care, he would not want that they will live in a world what will be a disaster in 20 or 25 years.

Trump didn't want to be president, the job brings a lot of hard work, the man has done this out of duty, he's watched the system getting increasingly corrupt year on year, now he's risking his life to go and sort out the mess and fix America.

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21539101)
and what will he do with the pharma industry? to WHAT he want to force them? first of all the biggest pharma companies are not in usa they are in switzerland. second of all usa needs the pharma industry and not the pharma industry need usa - they have their clients all around the world and this are over 8 BILLION.

The pharma industry needs real regulation, currently the regulators are industry-captured. The fraudulent CDC needs to be shut down and rebuilt from the ground up. The corporate criminals need to be prosecuted for what they have done, this will send out a warning to others not to do the same when the health of people is at stake. The reason Big Pharma have so much in Switzerland is just to skip taxes, Trump doesn't approve.

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21539101)
Le Pen

If she gets voted in in France it gives a real chance of finishing off the EU once and for all. So even if you don't like her personally, it's still worth considering the benefits she brings to the bigger picture. :2 cents:

lys11 02-13-2017 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21537514)

What he said before "...I'm really smart" ?

MaDalton 02-13-2017 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 21538450)
Ummm... yes i know who he is. Madalton, known to parrot whatever old media propagandizes here in Europe.


...nice try though. I love it when people think they outsmart me, but eventually make a fool of themselves instead :1orglaugh you are the master at this btw :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

lol - you are so cute my little dutch nazi stalker... :winkwink:

CDSmith 02-13-2017 06:22 AM

So much "sky is falling" in this thread I can't tell which of you is Chicken Little.

Tasty1 02-13-2017 08:00 AM

Just wait what will happen in Holland. Suddenly the minister president (who want to get elected again) says now Europe must have less influence. Het forgot het is saying that already 6 years while in charge... In the mean time his party supports Verhofstadt as new European president... see the lies, Verhofstadt is a real bad europhile.

As long as politicians keep lying, people put more trust in politicians that haven't been in charge before (and broke promises) and will vote for them.

And after the refugee crisis, now the African crisis begins. What do we want, a new Merkel that invites 1 million refugees from Africa this time, or someone that stops them and find other solutions...? The refugee and immigration problems destabilzed whole europe. Even if you want to help them, than that decission will spilt countries in two cause most don't want them.

It is that simple, or you realy give Europe less influence and stop making it 1 united states of europe and put an hold on immigration for people that will never work and only bring cultures most people don't want. Or you will splitt your country in two parts, the people that want EU en immigrants and the ones that don't want. If 51% of the people says you must jump from a tower, must 49% listen to that 'majority'? Sorry, but i find my own country more important than the countries that are in wars and problems all the time.

Or we kill Assad and take Syria under control. Or we just let them solve their own shit and stop financing 'moderare rebels' so it won't go on for years and kill even more people than Assad did in his whole life.

And look how good Europe's moral is, saying things about other countries and remove their governments. But in the meantime we are big friends with slave labour country China and the stoners from Saoedia Arabia and Dubai. As long as we support those countries, don't believe the morals of the eu, is all about money money money. I wouldn't mind paying 1000 euro extra tax if we can help countries. But we are not helping.


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