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thommy 02-19-2017 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 21557137)
The stupdid people from Mercedes want factories with only machines.
Just saw this.


sure they do - but as long as the machines what are producing machines can not be produced by machines it is science fiction and leads automaticly to communism.

and where for duck is YOUR ARGUMENT ?
YOU praise to bring jobs back to USA - if you CAN DO that already who holds you back?

what you say in fact is to take the jobs from the foreign countries and give them to robots instead - so where a fuck are the jobs you want to make with it ?

and with what will foreign countries buy the stuff what is produced by machines?

do you know what the real problem of US is?
it is not the import it is the low EXPORT !!!!!

USA have an export deficit of nearly 500 Billion dollars per year and trump makes you think he can fix that with a domestic market. but this is UNLOGIC and against every economic rule. to WHO will you export when you charge penalty taxes from your trading partners?

and if you not export thereīs no reason to produce - and if you not produce you do not have jobs - and if you do not have jobs nobody can buy.

how can you believe in such a fairytale what even a 10-year-old kid could understand better.

you are fighting for 50.000 jobs in the coal mining - what is definitely not the future - instead of creating 500.000 new jobs in alternative energy.

but sure trump will not go for that because he is the owner of a lot of oil pipelines and is engaged with fracking companies what are destroying your country.

how can you be so blind and deaf on logic argumentation?

Tasty1 02-19-2017 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21557785)
sure they do - but as long as the machines what are producing machines can not be produced by machines it is science fiction and leads automaticly to communism.

and where for duck is YOUR ARGUMENT ?
YOU praise to bring jobs back to USA - if you CAN DO that already who holds you back?

what you say in fact is to take the jobs from the foreign countries and give them to robots instead - so where a fuck are the jobs you want to make with it ?

and with what will foreign countries buy the stuff what is produced by machines?

do you know what the real problem of US is?
it is not the import it is the low EXPORT !!!!!

USA have an export deficit of nearly 500 Billion dollars per year and trump makes you think he can fix that with a domestic market. but this is UNLOGIC and against every economic rule. to WHO will you export when you charge penalty taxes from your trading partners?

and if you not export thereīs no reason to produce - and if you not produce you do not have jobs - and if you do not have jobs nobody can buy.

how can you believe in such a fairytale what even a 10-year-old kid could understand better.

you are fighting for 50.000 jobs in the coal mining - what is definitely not the future - instead of creating 500.000 new jobs in alternative energy.

but sure trump will not go for that because he is the owner of a lot of oil pipelines and is engaged with fracking companies what are destroying your country.

how can you be so blind and deaf on logic argumentation?

- Why would it lead to communism. It is not all black and white.

- I don't praise to bring jobs back to USA, this topic is about immigrants in Europe and if we need them.

- In Europe we don't need more immigrants to do the job, more machines can do the job. Already happening, i remember when i had a vacation job that there where many many more people on the production line.

- Again you think i am for bringing jobs backs, never talked about that. We are talking about getting less immigrants in and put illegals out of the country.

- Nice that you think if there are no jobs nobody can buy. Than we should go back to the old factory methods 50 years ago. Cause every factory aims at the lowest cost. Amazon is cutting out every middleman. And than they try to get he profits to an offshore company. And better a machine than a human slave in China.

- But we can talk about the USA. So you say they have too low export. It certainly doesn't help to import everything than for low prices. A tax would help. Look how Europe is controlling and protecting the agriculture. Except now the cheap chickens from the Ukrain can lower the prices cause of that treaty.

- So Trump is smart, invest in commodities.

- I am in favour of sustainable energy. But how many jobs will there be created before they move it to China if there is no extra import tax?

- And why should i be afraid that machines can do more and more. Maybe we can than put the retirement age to 45. Instead of thinking we need more immigration and need to work till 68 years. There will always be ways to make money. You can start mining bitcoins.

- The USA is not my country.

NewNick 02-19-2017 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21549049)
Everyone knows who I am. Who are you?

Show us how successful you are by posting links to your sites.

Indeed Paul everyone does know that you are a migrant.

I have no intention of posting my business credentials here - I have posted here using this nic and my previous nic for many years anonymously. I do that because I have no desire to recruit affiliates, and I have nothing to sell here.

klinton 02-19-2017 02:58 PM

check new tax laws in Romania...look promising...also UK and few other places in Europe were always good...let me know what ya think later :)
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Originally Posted by Paul&John (Post 21557656)
Damn thats pretty neat to pay only 6% flat rate..


Paul&John 02-19-2017 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21558139)
check new tax laws in Romania...look promising...also UK and few other places in Europe were always good...let me know what ya think later :)

I think I dont want to look up tax laws in any countries lol

QuietPhantom 02-19-2017 03:36 PM

I am born in a country where the largest minority are muslims. We have places where they are majority and let me tell you this: if you have a way of not dealing with that shit, enjoy. I don't see a point in letting them in and then working your ass off to preserve your values.

Immigration and cult immigration are two different things. Islam is a cult. Many muslims are liberal but the cult leaders take control over the communities and no body talk back because of fear.

pimpmaster9000 02-19-2017 04:21 PM

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JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-19-2017 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by QuietPhantom (Post 21558253)
I am born in a country where the largest minority are muslims. We have places where they are majority and let me tell you this: if you have a way of not dealing with that shit, enjoy. I don't see a point in letting them in and then working your ass off to preserve your values.

Immigration and cult immigration are two different things. Islam is a cult. Many muslims are liberal but the cult leaders take control over the communities and no body talk back because of fear.

They will turn the country into the middle east in no time

I can't for the life of me, envision why normal white people would want them in here. It's unreal

QuietPhantom 03-17-2017 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE (Post 21558382)
They will turn the country into the middle east in no time

I can't for the life of me, envision why normal white people would want them in here. It's unreal

It is not a 'white' thing. General public is compassionate because it is beyond their understanding that people can mass murder because they have a disagreement on which direction to pray. Then you take them in and they don't like your 5 year old child not wearing burqa.

For most civilized people, it's like sympathizing with gorillas in a cage. If sympathy gets out of control and you actually get inside the cage to feed them bastards, you are at their mercy, not the other way around.

P.S: Few days back a gangster was killed in my place. The dude was ratted out by gang members when he was high on grass. The funny thing? He won't drink alcohol because it's against his beliefs! No, I am not fucking joking.

Relic 03-17-2017 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 21538654)
Looks like there are a lot of racists and bigots in Europe :1orglaugh

yeah who knew

Paul Markham 03-18-2017 01:33 AM

The liberals don't care what's best for the people of their own country.

Paul Markham 03-18-2017 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21543937)
ahaaaaaaaaa.... so they do NOT contribute to the western economy ?????

about WHAT are we discussing then ????

on WHAT exactly should be the import tax planned by donald dump if they do not contribute to the western economy ?????

paul sorry, that is COMPLETELY BULLSHIT what you are talking and shows me only that you do not have the smallest clue.

shall i paint you the money circle that you are going to understand that?

present situation is:

US companies are producing and EXPORTING technology what is sold to countries with cheap labour.

They are using the cheap labour to produce a product FAR cheaper as it could be produced in USA and sell it back to US.

BECAUSE they are OFFSHORE the need contributers in US, wholesellers, delievery services,
warehouses for the stock and the result is that the workers what are producing the machines have more properity because they buy a product much cheaper.


NOW WE COME TO YOUR VISION:

step 1: the products will be produced in USA but for a much higher price.

step 2: all the jobs what are based on import will vbe gone because there is no import. these people have to look for another jon in the country and will directly compete with all other working habitants.

step 3: a higher price will lead to less demand on this product - less production means less workers - less workers means less income - less income= less demand - less demand= less production........

step 4: US companies will export less technology because if this countries canīt export there is no reason to produce. less jobs in this industry what canīt be balanced by the industry meantiones in step 2 because they are on the way down....

step 5: to give evenybody work in such a horrible economy situation the costs of labour have to go down = less income = less demand - less production

step 6: a country full of poor people canīt survive because the people are too poor to buy the stuff what they are producing.....

step 7 and endpoint: america will decrease to a cheap harbour land and will be used from china and mexico for doing works what their own people will not do for this money.

THIS PAUL, is what you are preaching here !

While Third World countries sell more than they buy, they're not contributing. I've high klighted your stupidity. All those services are required for US companies to deliver goods to US outlets.

As for you other weak arguments about goods made in the West being more expensive. Economies are based on currencies, not the number of goods sold. Buy exporting a large part of the products costs and the companies costs/taxes. The West loses a lot of money.

The argument about the exports of high-tech. Not relevant anymore as the Third World ramps up its production of high-tech products. The days of China sticking to only making low tech are long gone.

Paul Markham 03-18-2017 01:53 AM

Most Europeans and Americans are poorer than they were 30 years ago. The gap between rich and poor is at record highs and increasing.

The reasons are simple. Wages/taxes are being compressed by three ways.

Exporting jobs out of the West. No matter What Thommy bleats Chinas hasn't become wealthy by creating extra wealth, it's taken it from the West.

Migration of low skilled, low paid and unemployable people has lowered wages, job opportunities and increased the numbers relying on the rest of the people.

Automation of jobs. Fewer working people are required every day. From flipping burgers to manufacturing cars. The fewer people getting a living wage, the more people relying on the rest.

This has been a process since the 70s, it's only now people are realising the real cost of cheap goods.

Paul Markham 03-18-2017 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 21558079)
Indeed Paul everyone does know that you are a migrant.

I have no intention of posting my business credentials here - I have posted here using this nic and my previous nic for many years anonymously. I do that because I have no desire to recruit affiliates, and I have nothing to sell here.

I'm pro-migration of people who can contribute more in money than they take out.

You don't have anything to post. I do and my sites show how much I contributed to the Czech economy. You, on the other hand, could be living on low wage benefits, housing benefits, unemployed benefits, and all the other benefits you get in the UK.

Unless you can show us what you do earn from I will assume you have nothing.

Paul Markham 03-18-2017 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by QuietPhantom (Post 21634528)
It is not a 'white' thing. General public is compassionate because it is beyond their understanding that people can mass murder because they have a disagreement on which direction to pray. Then you take them in and they don't like your 5 year old child not wearing burqa.

For most civilized people, it's like sympathizing with gorillas in a cage. If sympathy gets out of control and you actually get inside the cage to feed them bastards, you are at their mercy, not the other way around.

P.S: Few days back a gangster was killed in my place. The dude was ratted out by gang members when he was high on grass. The funny thing? He won't drink alcohol because it's against his beliefs! No, I am not fucking joking.

Fact. Muslims kill more Muslims than non-Muslims because they disagree over the fine print of a fictional book. This takes Europeans back to the 15th to 17th Century when Europe was at war with itself. We 've grown up, Muslims refuse to.

Paul Markham 03-18-2017 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21557785)
sure they do - but as long as the machines what are producing machines can not be produced by machines it is science fiction and leads automaticly to communism.

and where for duck is YOUR ARGUMENT ?
YOU praise to bring jobs back to USA - if you CAN DO that already who holds you back?

what you say in fact is to take the jobs from the foreign countries and give them to robots instead - so where a fuck are the jobs you want to make with it ?

and with what will foreign countries buy the stuff what is produced by machines?

do you know what the real problem of US is?
it is not the import it is the low EXPORT !!!!!

USA have an export deficit of nearly 500 Billion dollars per year and trump makes you think he can fix that with a domestic market. but this is UNLOGIC and against every economic rule. to WHO will you export when you charge penalty taxes from your trading partners?

and if you not export thereīs no reason to produce - and if you not produce you do not have jobs - and if you do not have jobs nobody can buy.

how can you believe in such a fairytale what even a 10-year-old kid could understand better.

you are fighting for 50.000 jobs in the coal mining - what is definitely not the future - instead of creating 500.000 new jobs in alternative energy.

but sure trump will not go for that because he is the owner of a lot of oil pipelines and is engaged with fracking companies what are destroying your country.

how can you be so blind and deaf on logic argumentation?

Posted so you might get a clue. https://www.google.cz/webhp?hl=en&gw...cs+companies&*

Without import controls, there is no competing with countries like China.

I understand your blindness wanting to keep Thailand from suffering because of import controls. But we in the West are suffering. All we need is balanced trade.

pimpmaster9000 03-18-2017 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21635806)
Fact. Muslims kill more Muslims than non-Muslims

fact: more eskimos kill eskimos than non eskimos

fact: more africans kill africans than non africans

fact: more europeans kill europeans than non europeans




strng points paulio :thumbsup:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

thommy 03-18-2017 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21635833)
I understand your blindness wanting to keep Thailand from suffering because of import controls. But we in the West are suffering. All we need is balanced trade.

again you are far from reality because i do not care if thailand suffers or not.
my personal income is in mayn currencies and it is still 1000 times higher as
the average.

in fact at the moment I would like to see them suffer a bit more because THB is FAR too high and that does not only hurt their own export industry it hurts also tourism and decrease investments in the country.

on the other hand asia was always a part of the world what can manage problems much easier than other countries.
there are so many new trading contracts with other asian and european countries that it will not hit them hard.
the only who will be hit from this economic separation politic of trump, are the us and you will see that effect before the end of this year.
so no matter what you belive or not - nobody can jump over his own shadow.

Google Expert 03-18-2017 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21539878)
Most Europeans are worse off financially than they were 10 or 20 years ago. Fewer jobs, Lower Wages, Unemployment and a far worse future if Europe stays on its present course.

Because half the money are now being given for free to feral rapefugee muds who don't work and constantly demand gimmedats.


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