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crockett 02-22-2017 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by OldJeff (Post 21566443)
Correction : Trump just stopped making the whole country pay for something that only benefits California - projects like this should not be federally funded

So we should stop giving all those Red welfare states money because they fail to cover their own bills?

I'll give you a little hint.. Things like this benifit people other than those from Cali, because people from other states and all across the world visit them.

I'm glad for example that New Mexico gets federal money to support their roads because I don't like driving on shitty roads while traveling and they could never pay for good roads themselves.

Just imagine if Cali kept all their excess tax dollars for themselves and didn't help pay for roads in states like New Mexico or Nevada or Arizona.. I bet they would have the money to build their train track..

Tasty1 02-22-2017 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21566527)
The Airline lobbyists in Washington D.C. have kept our country from high speed rail for decades now.

I think we are the only civilized country on Earth that flies within it's own borders.
Everyone else in the world rides on 200 mph trains and only flies when they have to cross an ocean.

Have been in many countries, for public transport the US is one of the worst. Many tourist and backpackers skip the US cause you need to rent a car or fly from city to city what cost a lot extra.

I always look for an apartment near a center close by public transport.

Those bullet trains from coast to coast i don't think it is profitable/affordable when there aren't enough big cities in between. All those projects in Europe cost more money than expected cause most choose to go with a little slower train and save money. And than we are not talking about the bad trains they bought, they felt apart cause they choose the wrong ones. For coast to coast a plane will be better, or it must be an iconic new sort of Route 66.

12clicks 02-22-2017 08:58 AM

long past time to stop paying for this boondoggle.

crockett 02-22-2017 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 21566584)
Have been in many countries, for public transport the US is one of the worst. Many tourist and backpackers skip the US cause you need to rent a car or fly from city to city what cost a lot extra.

I always look for an apartment near a center close by public transport.

Those bullet trains from coast to coast i don't think it is profitable/affordable when there aren't enough big cities in between. All those projects in Europe cost more money than expected cause most choose to go with a little slower train and save money. And than we are not talking about the bad trains they bought, they felt apart cause they choose the wrong ones. For coast to coast a plane will be better, or it must be an iconic new sort of Route 66.

Honestly, this is not a fair comparison.. Most other countries are not the size of the US. Most countries in Europe are the size of a single US state making it much easier to have very good public transportation between cities.

Meanwhile in a metro like Denver or New York we have pretty good public transportation however it's not going to be as easy to go from say Denver to Salt Lake City by public transport station because it's very far away and in another state. Meaning you typically need to rent a car or hop on an airplane ect.. It's just not the same as going from Paris, France to say Tours, France.

DBS.US 02-22-2017 10:20 AM

$68-billion California bullet train project likely to overshoot budget and deadline targets - LA Times

Tasty1 02-22-2017 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 21566767)
Honestly, this is not a fair comparison.. Most other countries are not the size of the US. Most countries in Europe are the size of a single US state making it much easier to have very good public transportation between cities.

Meanwhile in a metro like Denver or New York we have pretty good public transportation however it's not going to be as easy to go from say Denver to Salt Lake City by public transport station because it's very far away and in another state. Meaning you typically need to rent a car or hop on an airplane ect.. It's just not the same as going from Paris, France to say Tours, France.

The fast speed trains in Europe go from country to country like from Amsterdam to Brussels and than Paris.
Al railways always have been connected to other countries. A lot of cargo is going by train in Europe.

I can compare to Vietnam, Thailand, Mexico, Brazil and many other coutries with good transport systems. The tourist love it, going from city to city.

OldJeff 02-22-2017 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 21566533)
So we should stop giving all those Red welfare states money because they fail to cover their own bills?

Yes, we should

Rochard 02-22-2017 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 21564883)
It would have been a link from downtown San Francisco, to dowtown LA and Anaheim, linking Sacramento, and a few others. It would be 520 miles, and when finally completed, be over 800 miles long. Not a "very small portion of the state". It would make money by ticket sales and advertising, save people time vs driving, be cheaper than flying, reduce pollution, etc, and employ thousands.

Exactly this.

This would create jobs, encourage spending, and reduce pollution.

Imagine people from Northern California taking the train down to Southern California for vacations and how much money that would generate.

TheSquealer 02-22-2017 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21566854)
Exactly this.

This would create jobs, encourage spending, and reduce pollution.

Imagine people from Northern California taking the train down to Southern California for vacations and how much money that would generate.

Why the fuck should a tax payer in Wyoming or South Dakota or Arkansas pay for tourists from Northern California to vacation and spend money in San Diego?

You need jobs?

Stop taxing business and regulating business to death and causing the fucking capital flight exodus out of California thats been happening for a couple decades now.

How about focusing on the single simple task of trying to stop yourselves from running the movie industry out of town as you have been for decades.

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MaDalton 02-22-2017 10:43 AM

high speed trains are so 2016... we're going to have Hyperloop soon* :winkwink:

Brno, Czech Republic - Hyperloop Transportation Technologies Inc.



10 minutes for 80 miles :pimp :glugglug



















*soon as in "as soon as we figured out how this works" :upsidedow

Robbie 02-22-2017 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 21566899)
high speed trains are so 2016... we're going to have Hyperloop soon* :winkwink:

Brno, Czech Republic - Hyperloop Transportation Technologies Inc.



10 minutes for 80 miles :pimp :glugglug


That's pretty cool!
Kind of thing that would fit nicely in the Northeastern U.S.
Especially in the Washington D.C., New York, and New England areas.

But I definitely think the U.S. should have a NYC to LA non-stop bullet train. And that should just be the beginning.

12clicks 02-22-2017 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by OldJeff (Post 21566839)
Yes, we should

we should also stop giving blue cities money.


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