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Rochard 03-01-2017 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 21586570)
I watched it and I thought it was the best speech I have seen him give (admittedly I haven't seen a whole lot of his speeches). He seems to do pretty well when he sticks to the script and doesn't go off on tangents.

That said, it wasn't anything new. He basically said the same things he has been saying his entire campaign. He did lay out his plan for the near future, but now he has to actually go out and do it which won't be as easy.

On the bright side, he looked and sounded presidential. Let's see if he can keep that up. If he is trying to restart things this is a good place to start, but if he turns around and has another cluster fuck of a press conference in the near future he may undo what good he has done.

He stayed on the teleprompter. If someone else writes his speech and he reads it word for word, he sounds presidential. When he goes off message and talks about how bigly his inaguration was, well, then he sounds like a fucking retard.

Anyone can give a speech. The time for speeches is over. Now he has to do it. Which he isn't doing.

Barry-xlovecam 03-01-2017 03:32 PM

Most these speeches are just political horseshit -- taking them too seriously is an error.

Some of Trump's fabrications are so bizarre -- I seriously have to question his sanity. If he knows that it is total bullshit and he is just trying to sell it to a gullible public that is one thing ...

directfiesta 03-01-2017 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21586630)
He stayed on the teleprompter. If someone else writes his speech and he reads it word for word, he sounds presidential. When he goes off message and talks about how bigly his inaguration was, well, then he sounds like a fucking retard.

Anyone can give a speech. The time for speeches is over. Now he has to do it. Which he isn't doing.


Exactly ... Crockett could have delivered that speach and sound presidential :1orglaugh

You would do a test on the content of the speach today , and he could not recall half the stuff ...

And this is not just for him, but for all politicians .

PS: where is the outrage of the usage of a teleprompter , like during Obama,s terms ?

Major (Tom) 03-01-2017 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 21584509)
I am surprised more Americans are not offended by his narrative.

But then I suppose he has to convince enough people that everything is broken before he can tell y'all how only he can fix it.

Bigly.



.

What narrative specifically

Bladewire 03-01-2017 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 21585862)
True president delivered a great speech.

Did the play it live in your homeland of Slovakia? You are a crazed foreign fanboy I wouldn't be surprised.

And if you paid attention to the speech, he doesn't give a fuck about you foreigners, he said he's president of America, not Slovakia and not the world. If he could stop all immigration he would to save American jobs.

Robbie 03-01-2017 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21586165)
Oh my god.

YES, it is getting larger. Yes, it will continue grow. This has NOTHING to do with unemployment, or the number of people employed.

My mother is not part of the labor force, but it is not unemployed. She is retired. She is not working because she is retired.

In the United States, we have 87 million people are who are retired, disabled, students, or stay at home parents. These people are not unemployed.

This number will continue to grow. It's simple math. More people are retiring than are moving into the labor force.

Rochard...you really should research and start using your brain. I've already told you this several times...
That number of LABOR FORCE PARTCIPATION is NOT counting people "retiring".

It is the number of people who are of the age group to be in the workforce.

WTF is wrong with you that you can't grasp that concept???

Has NOTHING to do with people retiring at all.

Now if you want to quibble with what he said...it DOES include college students for instance.
My daughter goes to UNLV. And many of them don't work. My daughter DOES have a job however....and MOST of the students there do as well (turns out they like having spending money lol)

It also includes the disabled. So you could argure that point. Though again...MOST disabled people have jobs.

It also includes the mentally disabled. A lot of them don't have jobs....but a decent percentage do.


So if you wanted to argue the numbers you could. But NOT by babbling AGAIN about retired people.
They are NOT counted in the labor participation numbers.
Neither are children...so don't be stupid and try to use that one in your next foolish argument.

Robbie 03-01-2017 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21586630)
He stayed on the teleprompter. If someone else writes his speech and he reads it word for word, he sounds presidential. When he goes off message and talks about how bigly his inaguration was, well, then he sounds like a fucking retard.

Anyone can give a speech. The time for speeches is over. Now he has to do it. Which he isn't doing.

And now you're attacking President Obama! WTF?

That is who you were just describing after all...

Robbie 03-01-2017 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 21586861)
What narrative specifically

The one where he talked about all working together and the one where he talked about uniting against bigotry and racism and the one where he talked about wanting to help the people of America have good lives and...

You get the point.
Some of the knee-jerk b.s. from these "anti-Trump" people is just ridiculous.
They don't even have a clue as to what Trump campaigned on or what his vision is for the country.

They just listen to the crap that the biased media (who actually COLLUDED with the Clinton campaign to try and beat Trump) spew out to them without ever bothering to learn for themselves.

Like all the people saying they didn't even watch the speech...and then somehow thinking they are "knowledgeable" about it.

It's useless for people like you and I to try and help them. The ignorance is just too strong on their part. And it's not that they are stupid...they CHOOSE to be ignorant because they are told by the media that it's "cool" to hate President Trump. :(

Joshua G 03-01-2017 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 21586861)
What narrative specifically

dont waste your time. among other things, newnick thinks when trump says "america first" its a dogwhistle to the american neo-nazi movement from the early 40s.

:1orglaugh

nico-t 03-02-2017 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21586648)
Most these speeches are just political horseshit

yet you probably get a boner each time Obama the establishment puppet speaks.

Barry-xlovecam 03-02-2017 05:48 AM

https://www.census.gov/mobile/economy/
https://www.bls.gov/ncs/ect/
https://www.bls.gov/web/eci/echistrynaics.txt

Facts not conjecture and fantasy

MiamiBoyz 03-02-2017 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Feema (Post 21586384)
I'm a Brit so try to watch the mad orange bastard objectively. This mild improvement seems to cyclical, he goes off the rails for a month, the PR people finally convince him to just read the bloody speech they've written and he does it. Approval goes up, he gets cocky and starts spouting despotic twaddle again. I'm failing with the objectivity obviously.

How's that cunt queen workin out for you?
Speaking of bullshit speeches and lies...nobody does it better than royalty.
Now they really have the people fooled...I admire that.

Anyway, you are interrupting a group of Americans commenting on the leader of America so kindly shut your pie hole and please just STFU in general.

http://68.media.tumblr.com/08dcc7618...w2woo1_500.jpg

NewNick 03-02-2017 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 21586861)
What narrative specifically

The narrative about America being broken and needing a big Orange hero to fix it.

The narrative about the pesky foreigners that have pinched all of our toys and we need a big Orange Baboon to stop the big kids from being mean to us.

The narrative about "carnage" and everything being so terrible - you guessed it the Orange tit to the rescue.

:thumbsup

Barry-xlovecam 03-02-2017 06:33 AM

I laughed the hardest at Trump's insinuation of the 94 million looking for jobs. That was beyond asinine

NewNick 03-02-2017 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21587326)
dont waste your time. among other things, newnick thinks when trump says "america first" its a dogwhistle to the american neo-nazi movement from the early 40s.

:1orglaugh

There you go again Joshy - think you need to do some searchin because you have me mixed up again.

:thumbsup

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-02-2017 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21588115)
I laughed the hardest at Trump's insinuation of the 94 million looking for jobs. That was beyond asinine

He never said 94 million are looking for jobs

Barry-xlovecam 03-02-2017 07:22 AM

I got work to do today.
You will just have to play by yourself today Johnny boy ...

woj 03-02-2017 07:43 AM

if economy is booming, and unemployment is really 5% like you guys claim, why is % of population participating in the "food stamps" program close to the highest level ever?

http://jtf.org/wp-content/uploads/20...TAGE-CHART.jpg

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-02-2017 07:44 AM

5% unemployment rofl

Vendzilla 03-02-2017 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21586165)
Oh my god.

YES, it is getting larger. Yes, it will continue grow. This has NOTHING to do with unemployment, or the number of people employed.

My mother is not part of the labor force, but it is not unemployed. She is retired. She is not working because she is retired.

In the United States, we have 87 million people are who are retired, disabled, students, or stay at home parents. These people are not unemployed.

This number will continue to grow. It's simple math. More people are retiring than are moving into the labor force.

Wrong again, the demographic for 55 and older, the % is increasing, so try again. More and more of them are in the workforce.

Simple Math!

Barry-xlovecam 03-02-2017 09:13 AM

Payroll employment rises by 227,000 in January; unemployment rate changes little (4.8%)

02/03/2017

Total nonfarm payroll employment increased by 227,000 in January, and the unemployment rate was little changed at 4.8 percent. Job gains occurred in retail trade, construction, and financial activities.
HTML | PDF | RSS | Charts | Commissioner's Statement

https://www.bls.gov/cps/
the labor department lies -- FAKE NEWS
Welcome the the REAL WORLD

directfiesta 03-02-2017 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 21588280)
if economy is booming, and unemployment is really 5% like you guys claim, why is % of population participating in the "food stamps" program close to the highest level ever?

http://jtf.org/wp-content/uploads/20...TAGE-CHART.jpg

People working at Walmart , McDonalds, .... need food stamps to survive...

US Gov is subsidizing these low wages job :2 cents:

woj 03-02-2017 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 21588505)
People working at Walmart , McDonalds, .... need food stamps to survive...

US Gov is subsidizing these low wages job :2 cents:

yea, I get it... but how can you guys keep a straight face when counting someone who earns so little that they can't afford food as "employed" when calculating "unemployment rate"?

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-02-2017 09:34 AM

Why are people working at mcdonalds trying to support a family of 4?! You're fucking doing it wrong!

Barry-xlovecam 03-02-2017 09:39 AM

Well, why doesn't Walmart just raise their prices and pay their low skilled enough wage to be able to pay cash for food?
I don't shop at Walmart. BTW Wally world pays over $10 hr for non retail clerk jobs.

The first round came last April. It increased the pay of 500,000 Walmart workers to at least $9 per hour. After that took effect, Walmart said its average hourly rates were "about" $13 for full-time employees and $10 for part-time.Jan 20, 2016
Walmart increasing wages; union says it's all show - Jan. 20, 2016

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The first round came last April. It increased the pay of 500,000 Walmart workers to at least $9 per hour.

After that took effect, Walmart said its average hourly rates were "about" $13 for full-time employees and $10 for part-time.

The company said Wednesday that the second round of wage hikes in February will bring the average hourly wage to $13.38 for full-time workers and $10.58 per hour for part-timers.

Trump will cut off a good part of the food stamps and the disability payments were people are working under the table -- I know a few. That make you happy?

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-02-2017 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21588556)
Well, why doesn't Walmart just raise their prices and pay their low skilled enough wage to be able to pay cash for food?
I don't shop at Walmart. BTW Wally world pays over $10 hr for non retail clerk jobs.

The first round came last April. It increased the pay of 500,000 Walmart workers to at least $9 per hour. After that took effect, Walmart said its average hourly rates were "about" $13 for full-time employees and $10 for part-time.Jan 20, 2016
Walmart increasing wages; union says it's all show - Jan. 20, 2016

Yes that makes me happy


Trump will cut off a good part of the food stamps and the disability payments were people are working under the table -- I know a few. That make you happy?

Yes that makes me happy

woj 03-02-2017 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21588556)
Trump will cut off a good part of the food stamps and the disability payments were people are working under the table -- I know a few. That make you happy?

you guys need to get your stories straight...

on one hand you complain that food stamps subsidize employers and allow them to pay low wages... "US Gov is subsidizing these low wages job"

but when solution is proposed to eliminate/reduce this subsidy, you complain?

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-02-2017 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 21588574)
you guys need to get your stories straight...

on one hand you complain that food stamps subsidize employers and allow them to pay low wages... "US Gov is subsidizing these low wages job"

but when solution is proposed to eliminate/reduce this subsidy, you complain?

it's lib logic :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Vendzilla 03-02-2017 09:46 AM

Just more proof that Obama fucked up things if people are trying to support themselves on Walmart salaries and not trade salaries

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-02-2017 09:48 AM

Walmart and McDonalds jobs are supposed to be for high school and college kids...not for a grown ass man witha family of 4 rofl

Barry-xlovecam 03-02-2017 09:49 AM

From 2013-15, 3.2 million workers were displaced from jobs held for at least 3 years

08/25/2016

From January 2013 through December 2015, 3.2 million workers were displaced from jobs they had held for at least 3 years. In January 2016, 66 percent of these workers were reemployed.
HTML | PDF | RSS


https://www.bls.gov/news.release/disp.nr0.htm

Red herring

Barry-xlovecam 03-02-2017 09:52 AM

If working at Walmart as a greeter is all you are qualified for vocationally ...

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-02-2017 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21588598)
If working at Walmart as a greeter is all you are qualified for vocationally ...

What???...

Bladewire 03-02-2017 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 21588526)
yea, I get it... but how can you guys keep a straight face when counting someone who earns so little that they can't afford food as "employed" when calculating "unemployment rate"?

You want to change the goal post for Trump.

Redflag

Don't forget, I'm a conservative Democrat so don't reply with some nonsense about me wanting people on food stamps and scammers on disability please.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-02-2017 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21588616)
You want to change the goal post for Trump.

Redflag

Don't forget, I'm a conservative Democrat so don't reply with some nonsense about me wanting people on food stamps and scammers on disability please.

What the fuck is a conservative demoshit? :1orglaugh

Bladewire 03-02-2017 10:08 AM

^^ Programmed to increase post & thread count

Barry-xlovecam 03-02-2017 11:03 AM

Hey woj; Why don't you apprentice some of those Walmart workers for $15/hr + benefits and train them for high-paid jobs working as coders? Maybe Trump will subsidize their wages :P

We employ 5,000 cam performers in Romania and Columbia. And 70 customer service, developer, coder, accounting, clerical and management personnel in 4 countries train me a good coder ...

I am being facetious because those people (the majority of them) do not have the aptitude and drive to succeed or excel in a technical vocation. They are worth what their marketable skills demand. We might give that skill level person a customer service agent job in Bucharest. That is not a well paying job -- market rates for the skill offered.

Don't cry me a river about unskilled workers that are not paid more than is mandated or what they are worth. I don't give a shit really -- life is tough always has been.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-02-2017 11:04 AM

Who the fuck cares about walmart workers? Just LOOK at them...seriously

OneHungLo 03-02-2017 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21588223)
I got work to do today.
You will just have to play by yourself today Johnny boy ...

In other words my boss scolded me for making rabid trump threads :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Bladewire 03-02-2017 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 21588868)
In other words my boss scolded me for making rabid trump threads :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Smaq dat / JohnnyClips / JohnnyNight /Joshua G

This guy's boss should reign him in he's driving unpaid industry posters off :2 cents:


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