Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21614365)

That's all well and good but you're missing one key play in this chess game....

This information is being released by Putin while Putin's puppet is in office, for maximum damage.

If our government topples we'll have a corrupt dictator in charge.

Its all well and good to want to know how the sausage is made in our government and be critical of the process and it's secrets, but the alternative is a dictatorship, instigated by Putin.

Remember, they're not exposing secrets to make our society better, their goal is to turn our society into a dictatorship they control. Putin kills his advesaries and has silenced free speech in his country. That's not what I want or how I'm going to live.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21615730)

In what world do you think the US is not a dictatorship?

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21615730)

Other than a complete outsider like Trump getting voted in.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21615730)

Your politicians are told what to do and when to do it by a very small group of big corporations who can afford to re-elect them. Have you watched Miss Sloane and how much truth do you see in the scenario of big money telling politicians how to vote?

As for free speech. You talking on here means nothing against the $billions spent to get the person the billionaires want elected.

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 21614932)

I'm not religious or even spiritual in the least, but your definition of spirituality is grossly misinformed...

spirituality saves millions daily. it can help people cope with addiction, battle depression, reconnect with their family or friends. It can inspire people to do good for others, it can aid in rehabilitation. People who have lost everything. Family, money, jobs can sometimes be saved by having someone, maybe even a stranger, believe in them--even just a little bit is enough sometimes. Can knowledge save everyone from that? Are you going to take a class at a local community college to help you with your depression? I'm sure that would work for a few, but not most. You could spend years writing up a dissertation on anxiety, but would that help prevent you from suffering from it yourself? Probably not.

Whether it is done through religion or through ddp yoga who gives a shit? As long as someone finds something positive to help get back on track and maybe even give a little back themselves is only a good thing right? Humanity will never go forward unless spirituality exists in one form or another.

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 21614932)

I'm not religious or even spiritual in the least, but your definition of spirituality is grossly misinformed...

spirituality saves millions daily. it can help people cope with addiction, battle depression, reconnect with their family or friends. It can inspire people to do good for others, it can aid in rehabilitation. People who have lost everything. Family, money, jobs can sometimes be saved by having someone, maybe even a stranger, believe in them--even just a little bit is enough sometimes. Can knowledge save everyone from that? Are you going to take a class at a local community college to help you with your depression? I'm sure that would work for a few, but not most. You could spend years writing up a dissertation on anxiety, but would that help prevent you from suffering from it yourself? Probably not.

Whether it is done through religion or through ddp yoga who gives a shit? As long as someone finds something positive to help get back on track and maybe even give a little back themselves is only a good thing right? Humanity will never go forward unless spirituality exists in one form or another.

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 21615916)

saved me typing out a long reply :thumbsup all I'll add is spirituality has nothing to do with religion (though you can obviously be both if you choose). Seems mark is confusing spirituality with religion or possibly (likely) spiritualism. Two very different words.

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 21615916)

saved me typing out a long reply :thumbsup all I'll add is spirituality has nothing to do with religion (though you can obviously be both if you choose). Seems mark is confusing spirituality with religion or possibly (likely) spiritualism. Two very different words.

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21614365)

That's all well and good but you're missing one key play in this chess game....

This information is being released by Putin while Putin's puppet is in office, for maximum damage.

If our government topples we'll have a corrupt dictator in charge.

Its all well and good to want to know how the sausage is made in our government and be critical of the process and it's secrets, but the alternative is a dictatorship, instigated by Putin.

Remember, they're not exposing secrets to make our society better, their goal is to turn our society into a dictatorship they control. Putin kills his advesaries and has silenced free speech in his country. That's not what I want or how I'm going to live.