better question : What exactly from my post do you think is NOT BS?

I'm not impressed. Congrats.

Whatever you think. I KNOW what the word "wire tapped" always meant. You can say that's not true until the cows come home. But it doesn't change that.

Wiretapping was exactly what was done for decades because all communications were wired.
"Wiretapping" always meant eavesdropping on conversations. And "bugging" meant placing a hidden device to capture conversations.

I don't care how old you are, or how you know my age. I'm telling you that Trump was SPIED on by our government.
To fall in with the biased media to try and make the story about a parsing of words and their meanings is the real "fucking joke".

The media, you, me, and everybody else should be pissed that our govt. is doing that kind of shady shit in violation of the Constitution.

Instead I see all these so-called "liberal" people screaming their love and support for fuckng spy's!!! :(
And those same "liberals" calling for a new "Cold War" with Russia.

WTF?

I have to say...when Republicans are the ones offering olive branches to Russia and the Democrats are ready to start WW3 with them...the world has turned upside down.

Pay no attention.

He's labelling FACT for anonymous unverified sources. He's out of it.

Me neither she's your problem not mine

typical of how this clown replies when he has no answer.

he should of been banned ages ago, I guess because he has 16,000+ posts, Admin looks the other way.

People that collude with foreign powers to take over the us govt should be wiretapped, surveyed, or however you want to define it. The only question now is where are they going to find handcuffs to fit his tiny tiny hands?

You can tell me "untill the cows come home" that Trump was SPIED on by our government but since I am satisfied that you are not a member of the FBI, CIA, or the NSA nor a member of a Congressional Investigative Committee. I will choose to believe them when they all say that there is not any evidence to support that claim. Also as I have stated the Donald got his info from a Fox "News" contributor and ran with it. A fucking joke.

If at some point there is evidence discovered that supports that claim then I will accept it at its face value.

No, nothing you just wrote is a fact. That is what you wish was the truth. that is a major difference.

shit you even said it yourself. Obama had absolutely no motive to do this, by doing it it would incriminate him for, again, no reason.

Why you! Why I aughtta....
I'm gonna....

Oh wait a minute, in the grand scheme it doesn't matter what either of us think about this subject. We're just debating on a message board. :)

Man, politics is the worst isn't it? That's why there's that old saying that you should never discuss politics or religion.
We'll both get fired up over shit that we can't control in an effort to change the other person's mind. lol

We should all be talkin' business on this forum with the occasional "fucking around"...and the "fucking around" part should be fun and lighthearted. :pimp

I am in total agreement but the board is what it is. LOL BTW, are you still playing gigs?

Yeah, got a new band I just joined playing old classic rock. First gig with them is in April. Right now just rehearsing and tightening up.

People like him are having difficulty dealing with the reality that at 2 months in Trump is a lame duck president that's used up all his capital in struggling to repeal healthcare for 24 million citizens & covering up his felonious lie about his predecessor.

People like Matt26z weren't expecting 2 blocked muslim bans or Trump paying out $25 million for his consumer fraud case or Trump lying about his predecessor illegally wiretapping him.

Matt26z is a white nationalist and was hoping Trump would be our great white power hope but turns out Trump is a big city con man and an incompetent leader.

I agree somewhat. As a member here for so many years, it's never been this bad (political talk wise) ....and I could see how it could distract and prevent Views to more legitimate threads of affiliate programs trying to get opinions and sell their stuff.

A "Politics Only" section would be a nice addition..and would keep the forums just as active, or maybe even more...as more people might sign up just for the Political Talk BS.

That would be great.
And it would probably be the most visited and posted in part of the forum too.

The fights would still take place of course...but not in this section.

It would still be awfully hard to resist going into that political section lol
It would be like a big piece of candy tempting me to go in and argue ideas about politics. But at least we'd have the option to try and resist it and stick to business.

You might have enough pull with Eric to have him make a Political Talk forum. Give it a shot.

The majority of political threads are spam from the same right wing nut with multiple nics. We post to counter his, when we didn't the whole front page were days old right wing threads he bumped, and about 20 new threads he made that day.

Eric banned that nic (johnnyclips), but he bragged in a previous thread of having 14 nics. I've documented his strategy here, at the bottom of page 2 you see what he's been doing lately, including today.

Heres what I dont get. President Obama did electronic surveillance on Angela Merkul, he clearly has the authority to do it on Trump under FISA why is it so hard for the US media to believe that he would do so?

No the fuck they did not lie, quit Making bullshit claims. They were asked if Trump was being wire tapped. He wasn't being wiretapped.

They have even said "Tump" as being the unmarked person. They specifically said it was people in Trump's transition team and they were not the target of any wire tap but rather were recorded because they talked to someone who was the target...

You "hear" what "you" want to hear..

Because Comey & NSA head Adm. Michael Rogers testified under oath for 7 hours on Monday and verified, under oath, that all agencies checked and confirmed with Comey that no FISA on Trump was issued.

The media is believing FBI director Comey's & adm. Michael Rogers 7 hours of testimony under oath. They also learned that Trump and his team are under criminal investigation.

I gotta agree w/Robbie here its the broader meaning of "wiretap" and the media lies A lot consider the complete bullshit story last week about Meals on Whheels...MOW is a privately funded charity...some states give it a little money they get from federal grants, around 3 cents on the dollar....To hear the media tell it Trump was single handedly defunding the charity and next thing you know we'd have Sarah McLoughlin making commercials with old people in the rain and snow....Its ridiculous and its ridiculous how many people see that shit and believe it to be true...the real truth is that MOW has more money than ever and is in no danger nor was it ever in any danger of financial instability....as any GOOD charity is is NOT dependent on federal money to survive.

You're lying, no offense.

Meals on Wheels received 35% of their funding from the federal government.

MOW also receives a lot of block funding money from states, which is federally funded to the state, so the impact is far greater than just the 35% federal funding cut.

You should check facts before you proagate lies, unintentionally or not. But don't take my word for it, a quick Google gives you a statement from Meals on Wheels, on their website.

STATEMENT CLARIFYING FEDERAL FUNDING TO MEALS ON WHEELS

Because the FBI Director and the Donald's NSA Director say that he didn't apply for a FISA order.

dumb lib do you read your own links???

as mike south said, the dumb hysterical lying liberal press distorted the facts here.

but you keep hanging to minutae as the basis to refute an argument, while you can't even figure out what facts are.

:1orglaugh

The truth & facts are the alt-rights enemy... Look at all the trump threads one alt-right guy with multiple fake nics creates. Fucked in the head :2 cents:

What makes you think that any and every person that refutes what you say is "alt-right"

I'm not.

I don't have to group think with folks who can't stand to have a dissenting viewpoint presented to them to be "liberal".

And to say that Donald Trump...a lifelong Democrat from New York...and probably the most LIBERAL Republican President in history is somehow "alt right" is ridiculous.

If any of you just jog your short memories...during the Republican Primaries, every one of his opponents were screaming that he was a liberal and was NOT a "conservative" at all.

That was the excuse the Republican Establishment made against him.
Now the Democrat establishment wants to paint him as SUPER-conservative to the point of being a "Fascist" (I would challenge ANY of you to tell me ONE thing that Trump has ever done in his short 2 months as President that was "fascist")

The reality is...Trump is ANTI-Establishment.
And being anti-establishment used to be what us real liberal people were.

Those of you who consider yourself liberal should do some soul-searching.
You are cheering FOR the establishment.
You are cheering FOR spying (CIA, FBI, etc.)
You are cheering FOR heightening tensions with Russia

In my opinion...wanting welfare and "free" health care does NOT make a person "liberal"

I think the media has convinced many people that they are "good" and "liberal" by redistributing wealth. There is no "liberalism" in that agenda. Just communism.

You're cheering for the wrong side. And the wrong things.

excellent points! but your wasting energy trying to persuade these dumbfucks. they are too dumb to be self reflecting or humble.

:2 cents:

PS liberals continuous fake race claims is the #1 divisive force in US society today. the liberal media in no way reflects anything real in america. hilary was winning every single day of 2016...except the only day that mattered. so while americas 30 states that elected trump were cheering, the liberal media was in tears, in no way reflecting the true mood of the country.

dumb libs wallow in their delusions. whitelash!

:2 cents:

^^^ Redhats TRIGGERED by failed healthcare bill, 2 failed muslim bans, Trump paying $25 million for class action consumer fraud and Trump caught lying about his predecessor felonious wiretapping him.

They are manic! Look at the front page all pro Trump alt-right from the same two fake nics :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh