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JesseQuinn 03-27-2017 05:04 AM

50 xenophobes

Horatio Caine 03-27-2017 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21658165)
You life's work brings new meaning to the term low skilled...You are like the Jean Luke Picard of low skilled, you boldly go where no human has gone before exploring new frontiers LOL

That was actually pretty good Slobo..
But lets get down to bidness... How much money did you make last night, son? a $10?

Paul Markham 03-27-2017 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21656536)
Another anti immigration half Asian just like that idiot Geert Wilders. At least this guy is honest about being a good mix.

How many of the so-called "anti-immigation" parties want to stop doctors, scientists, businessmen, wealthy, etc people migrating?

Stop lying, they just want to stop those who will never contribute, rely on others, lower wages, be a strain on the society.

If you like the migration of people who won't contribute. Start a charity to pay for them.

Paul Markham 03-27-2017 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 21656551)
lol - you get a raging boner from this right? keeps you from typing coherrent sentences too ;)

I knew you were gonna say that but I find it interesting that starving millions of Indian people to death is an acceptable norm for you.

Nothing new to me knowing your mindset by now though. :)

Tell us about the millions Germany gassed.

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World War II fatality statistics vary, with estimates of total deaths ranging from 50 million to more than 80 million. The higher figure of over 80 million includes deaths from war-related disease and famine. Civilians killed totalled 50 to 55 million, including 19 to 28 million from war-related disease and famine.
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The total number of military and civilian casualties in World War I was more than 38 million: there were over 17 million deaths and 20 million wounded, ranking it among the deadliest conflicts in human history. The total number of deaths includes about 11 million military personnel and about 7 million civilians.

Paul Markham 03-27-2017 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 21656605)
I can name few places where your fellow Eastern European migrants doing wonderful job fucking it up right NOW! Ever been to Iceland? Ask them about Poles and Lithuanians!

Are you talking about the strippers going to earn money satisfying men's urges?

https://cdn.davidwolfe.com/wp-conten...fhypocrite.jpg

Bladewire 03-27-2017 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 21658273)
Must be fake news... because I don't see a hospital...:helpme

Hehehe I saw what you did there :winkwink:

Horatio Caine 03-27-2017 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21658813)
Are you talking about the strippers going to earn money satisfying men's urges?

https://cdn.davidwolfe.com/wp-conten...fhypocrite.jpg

No dumbo. There aren't any strip club in Iceland.

nico-t 03-27-2017 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 21656470)
I think there are for example a couple of millions of Indians that had an issue - but they are all dead

should I list more countries that the white British enslaved, robbed and murdered over the centuries?

:error:error:error

How does it feel oversimplifying everything and living with blinders on?

PR_Glen 03-27-2017 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 21656335)
Paul is not the "enricher". Show me a country having issues with white british migrants. Nice try.

Well, there was that whole British empire thing...

Bladewire 03-27-2017 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 21659170)
How does it feel oversimplifying everything and living with blinders on?


Geert Wilders LOST! What is your purpose in life now?

https://brusselsdiplomatic.files.wor...utte-smile.jpg




nico-t 03-27-2017 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21659320)

Geert Wilders LOST! What is your purpose in life now?

https://brusselsdiplomatic.files.wor...utte-smile.jpg




... but he future now has seats in parliament as well:

http://cdn.pm-network.nl/sites/2/201...t_0086-web.jpg

:thumbsup

Bladewire 03-27-2017 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 21659344)
... but he future now has seats in parliament as well:

Now you are talking like a far leftist! You are trying to make it seem there is no LOSER ! OMG you flip on your belly at first stroke wow put your bottom up and enjoy the ride buddy :1orglaugh:1orglaugh Holland rejects your Asian messiah :1orglaugh



MaDalton 03-27-2017 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21658804)
Tell us about the millions Germany gassed.

Paul, i am well aware of German history - a reason why I argue with xenophobes and racists today. I learned from history, you obviously not so much.

Relic 03-27-2017 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 21659644)
i am well aware of German history

You are well indoctrinated by wartime atrocity propaganda, you defend mathematical impossibilities, are completely blind to real eventualities and are on a major fucking unearned guilt trip. This is a common theme from Cicero to Ford. Jews. You can only chose to ignore what's established in trade for the unknown. pst MaDalton...

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WE will break your fucking conditioning however

nico-t 03-27-2017 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21659359)
Now you are talking like a far leftist! You are trying to make it seem there is no LOSER ! OMG you flip on your belly at first stroke wow put your bottom up and enjoy the ride buddy :1orglaugh:1orglaugh Holland rejects your Asian messiah :1orglaugh

sounds like you're the one melting down buddy... take it easy you're gonna pop a vain :1orglaugh

nico-t 03-27-2017 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 21659644)
Paul, i am well aware of German history - a reason why I argue with xenophobes and racists today. I learned from history, you obviously not so much.

In other words, you just admitted you have a severe case of white (or german) guilt, which makes you unable to look objectively at immigration issues. I notice a lot of germans have this handicap.
If, hypothetically of course, 100,000 ISIS members would be pillaging your villages and raping your women you still would say "they're welcome you racist".

Time to snap out of it :2 cents:

pimpmaster9000 03-27-2017 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 21658402)
That was actually pretty good Slobo..
But lets get down to bidness... How much money did you make last night, son? a $10?

my hoes are always making me money how about yours?...whats that you say? you dont have any? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

women actually like working for me and making me that money...the flow is reversed and it goes from ho to pimp...whereas your money goes from john to ho...guys like you make me money IRL the ho just goes and gets it for me :2 cents::2 cents::2 cents::2 cents: <----pimp money

the below is an accurate representation of my lifestyle and beliefs, I am just too alpha to dress like this but I am an obvious pimp
https://cdn.instructables.com/FSL/V5...VIA.MEDIUM.jpg

Bladewire 03-27-2017 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 21660313)
In other words, you just admitted you have a severe case of white (or german) guilt, which makes you unable to look objectively at immigration issues. I notice a lot of germans have this handicap.
If, hypothetically of course, 100,000 ISIS members would be pillaging your villages and raping your women you still would say "they're welcome you racist".

Time to snap out of it :2 cents:

You're such a white nationalist through & through :1orglaugh:1orglaugh


Horatio Caine 03-27-2017 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21660559)
my hoes are always making me money how about yours?...whats that you say? you dont have any? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

women actually like working for me and making me that money...the flow is reversed and it goes from ho to pimp...whereas your money goes from john to ho...guys like you make me money IRL the ho just goes and gets it for me :2 cents::2 cents::2 cents::2 cents: <----pimp money

the below is an accurate representation of my lifestyle and beliefs, I am just too alpha to dress like this but I am an obvious pimp
https://cdn.instructables.com/FSL/V5...VIA.MEDIUM.jpg

Have very little need for hos, son.. But I have 4 kids, one in college and 3 in private schools. Their tuition as about x50 what you make in a year :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
I imagine this is how you make your living IRL :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


http://bigcocksonboyz.com/photos/Web..._17.49.45].jpg

Paul Markham 03-27-2017 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JesseQuinn (Post 21658399)
50 xenophobes

Why are you in favour of allowing people into your country who have a high rate of terrorism, crime, sex crimes, killing family members, selling daughters, unemployment, etc?

Drop the racist point and look at the facts.

Paul Markham 03-27-2017 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 21659101)
No dumbo. There aren't any strip club in Iceland.

So what are they doing in Iceland?

https://worldsbeststripclubs.com/strip-clubs/iceland

https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopi...al_Region.html

https://worldsbeststripclubs.com/str...nger-nightclub

If they're low-skilled, low-paid, unemployed, they shouldn't be there. I apply the same rules regardless of race. Unlike libtards.

Paul Markham 03-27-2017 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 21659194)
Well, there was that whole British empire thing...

If the people of the countries GB invaded had a chance to vote, do you think they would have voted for the invasion back in the day?

Please include Native Canadians in that list.

Phoenix 03-27-2017 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21660559)
my hoes are always making me money how about yours?...whats that you say? you dont have any? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

women actually like working for me and making me that money...the flow is reversed and it goes from ho to pimp...whereas your money goes from john to ho...guys like you make me money IRL the ho just goes and gets it for me :2 cents::2 cents::2 cents::2 cents: <----pimp money

the below is an accurate representation of my lifestyle and beliefs, I am just too alpha to dress like this but I am an obvious pimp
https://cdn.instructables.com/FSL/V5...VIA.MEDIUM.jpg

Lol...amazing

Paul Markham 03-27-2017 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21659320)

Geert Wilders LOST! What is your purpose in life now?

https://brusselsdiplomatic.files.wor...utte-smile.jpg




To lead the second largest party in Holland and the one that's growing the fastest.

pimpmaster9000 03-28-2017 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21661030)
So what are they doing in Iceland?

https://worldsbeststripclubs.com/strip-clubs/iceland

https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopi...al_Region.html

https://worldsbeststripclubs.com/str...nger-nightclub

If they're low-skilled, low-paid, unemployed, they shouldn't be there. I apply the same rules regardless of race. Unlike libtards.

but you are a low skilled immigrant paul...you are literally a human camera holder...I bet 90% off all immigrants would do a better job in their first try that you...sheeeeeeet YOU would bet the same :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

alien predator IRL :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/363...am-teens-o.gif

MaDalton 03-28-2017 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 21660313)
In other words, you just admitted you have a severe case of white (or german) guilt, which makes you unable to look objectively at immigration issues. I notice a lot of germans have this handicap.
If, hypothetically of course, 100,000 ISIS members would be pillaging your villages and raping your women you still would say "they're welcome you racist".

Time to snap out of it :2 cents:

no worries about my guilt - I dislike radical muslims as much as i dislike dutch nazis :winkwink:

Paul Markham 03-28-2017 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21661318)
but you are a low skilled immigrant paul...you are literally a human camera holder...I bet 90% off all immigrants would do a better job in their first try that you...sheeeeeeet YOU would bet the same :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

alien predator IRL :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/363...am-teens-o.gif

If 90% of all immigrants could do what I could. They wouldn't need benefits.

This alone shows the failure of mass migration. The costs to the citizens of the richer and better run countries are unacceptable. The libtards want you to pay for their stupidity.I understand you wanting to be kind, but are you willing to pay the bills?

NewNick 03-28-2017 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21656122)
Anti-immigrant party takes first place in Sweden, poll shows

Good news from Sweden, the Swedish are starting to realise they're getting fucked.

This swing has been reflected all over Europe, will politicians listen?

The migrant OP complaining about migrants again.

You couldnt make it up.

Fucking idiot.

:1orglaugh

Horatio Caine 03-28-2017 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21661030)
So what are they doing in Iceland?

https://worldsbeststripclubs.com/strip-clubs/iceland

https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopi...al_Region.html

https://worldsbeststripclubs.com/str...nger-nightclub

If they're low-skilled, low-paid, unemployed, they shouldn't be there. I apply the same rules regardless of race. Unlike libtards.

Paul, Iceland banned strip clubs 7 years ago. Those links are older than you dentures.

And yes, they are low skilled and walfare loving people. They came to Iceland in early 2000's during construction boom, segregated themselves, got on welfare and now refuse to leave. Sounds familiar?
Do you consider yourself "high-skilled"? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Horatio Caine 03-28-2017 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21661744)
If 90% of all immigrants could do what I could. They wouldn't need benefits.

This alone shows the failure of mass migration. The costs to the citizens of the richer and better run countries are unacceptable. The libtards want you to pay for their stupidity.I understand you wanting to be kind, but are you willing to pay the bills?

90% could and would, but your low skilled profession requires certain level of shame, health risks and throwing away any other opportunity of having normal family and life. Lets be honest, C++ programmer or surgeon can learn how to take nude pictures a lot faster than you learning how to perform surgery or write a program. Come on, Paul. I have some of you content and I will say its not the best. Im not saying that you had few good sets out there for skin mags and all, but most of it is just average porn crap.

Bladewire 03-28-2017 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 21660280)
sounds like you're the one melting down buddy... take it easy you're gonna pop a vain :1orglaugh

Democrat meltdowns stopped 3-4 weeks ago. If you were in America you'd understand why.

Trump is the biggest gift to the Democratic party. Trump has been so destructive to the Republican party both externally, and internally, that they couldn't even get enough Republican votes in congress to take our healthcare away. I'm honestly surprised you support this.

A lot of excitement in the Democratic party and we're winning over disaffected Trump voters every day, and treating them well.

A lot of Trump voters didn't really think Trump wanted to take away their healthcare or kick non violent productive immigrants with businesses, and American citizen children, out of the country, now those Trump voters are all coming to our side and we welcome them with open arms.

thommy 03-28-2017 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21661030)

If they're low-skilled, low-paid, unemployed, they shouldn't be there. I apply the same rules regardless of race. Unlike libtards.

paul what you still not understand is, that we are talking about 3-4 DIFFERENT issues.

issues 1: legal immigration:

no country in the world (and ESPECIALLY German) letīs immigrants easy in.
If there is no need for any kind of worker in the country and if they are not willing to integrate they will definately NOT go in.

I know A LOT of company bosses in Germany what tries to get some in but 95% are not allowed.

issue 2: refugees

this is NOT a group of immigrants. these people did not come to stay - they come because they lost their homes or they come from an area where war and chaos threaten their lives or in which they are persecuted because of their political attitude, race or religion.

to help this people is a human mandatory.

issue 3: illegal immigrants or refugees.

this IS a problem because if just ONE COUNTRY in the EU is willing to do itīs human part and ALL of them come into a country it is hard to handle.

and YES there are a lot of illigeal inside them and BECAUSE of the mass they are not easy to identifiy.

if EVERY country would stand to this human mandatory wich they have signed in the Geneva Convestion - all that masses could be handelt by many and it would not be easy for illegals or terrorists to smuggle themselfes under this people.

so yes germany HAD a problem (what is becomming smaller every day) but just because germans have been the only ones in the EU who stand for what they have signed.
and after the majority of these people went back to their countries we will have left the elite under them and keep staying the economicly most succeful nation in the world.

all what you guys say and want is to reject this people - no matter if they are predenting to be a real refugee or not would just make us more enemies.
enemies who will terrorize not only us - they will terrorize the complete western world.
so all of you lazy, wordbreaking fuckers should say "thank you to keep some shit from us" to Germany because we do the dirty workd what you brainless idiots are not wanting to do what you have signed for.

we also do not want terrorists - and THATS WHY WE DO IT AS WE DO IT !!!

if you would be able to think further as from you head to your nasal tip you would already realize that.

Tasty1 03-28-2017 07:30 AM

Europe shouldn't try to run all countries from Brussel. An open market will be enough with some other cooperation regarding environement and military. But a treaty with the Ukrain, always trying to get Turkey in the EU, failed immigration, hate preachers that can't be stopped cause of the treaty with Turkey, high criminal rates, high unemployment rates, more mosques that always get in the news with fraud and hate preachers, that causes people to vote for Wilders. And instead of slowing down, they want to move extra fast forward as an answer. And democracy, i can't choose the people in Brussel. And if you vote VVD, you vote aitomaticly for Juncker en Verhofstadt. Cause in Holland he says; less eu (before the elections), but sneaky supporting the most eurofile people there are.

Most people wanted a EU, but most people also wants to stay souvereign. And look how the national politicians play with you. Saying there must go extra money to Greece, but not saying the truth. The greek don't need money, the banks that lent them money had to be paid. And again we pay the (german) banks for making bad deals and taking risk. Just let the bank fail and help Greece. Cause it already takes 10 years and they will be in debt many many more years to come. But the politicians rather blame the greek people. Just stop with the euro, make a Neuro with only northern countries. Or give back the dutch Guilder. Else you need more and more EU with 1 monetary system and more rules. Sweden does ok with their Swedish Krone, England has his pound...

You know who also wanted 1 big Europe....

pimpmaster9000 03-28-2017 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21661744)
If 90% of all immigrants could do what I could. They wouldn't need benefits.

This alone shows the failure of mass migration. The costs to the citizens of the richer and better run countries are unacceptable. The libtards want you to pay for their stupidity.I understand you wanting to be kind, but are you willing to pay the bills?

paul...the moment you and your allies stop creating the refugees, this is the moment your argument will have any merit...costs? what about the costs for fucking up their country and economies?? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

you see if you were to be made homeless and deported to bulgaria for example, were a low skilled non bulgarian speaking person like YOU would not be able to find a job, you would certainly understand how cruel and inhuman your arguments are...even if you were an economic migrant (like you are) you would not appreciate people standing in the way of the future they took away from you by bombing and de-stabilizing your country...

the EU got down on its knees and licked US foreign policy asshole...it let the USA take a shit right next to EU boarders....several times...next time if you do not like the smell of US shit, do not eat their asshole but rather impose sanctions in them for taking shits in your region...

stop creating refugees and you will not have a problem with them <---- this :thumbsup

Bladewire 03-28-2017 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21661039)
To lead the second largest party in Holland and the one that's growing the fastest.

Geert Wilders lost. You're just putting icing on shit and calling it a brownie.

I agree with virtually all of Wilders platform but I don't agree with the hate & divisiveness that he projected to gain support, that's corrosive to society.

Maybe Geert will retool his message to include all races in his fight to remove those who don't intend on assimilating to Dutch culture & customs. This is what we have in America.

Separatist white nationalists are capable of living together but separate in the same country & white culture. The racist white nationalists would get farther if they first embraced separatism as a means to an end :2 cents:

Bladewire 03-28-2017 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21661981)
stop creating refugees and you will not have a problem with them <---- this :thumbsup

You've seen the next step without realizing it.

The problems we've seen with refugees to the EU has shown us that Erdogon needs to be taken out of power and/or to start purposely killing more in the ME, not try to remove ISIS with precision. Trump has started this new tactic already :(

US admits it conducted Mosul air strike 'at location' where '200' civilians died | The Independent

thommy 03-28-2017 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 21661936)
Europe shouldn't try to run all countries from Brussel. An open market will be enough with some other cooperation regarding environement and military. But a treaty with the Ukrain, always trying to get Turkey in the EU, failed immigration, hate preachers that can't be stopped cause of the treaty with Turkey, high criminal rates, high unemployment rates, more mosques that always get in the news with fraud and hate preachers, that causes people to vote for Wilders. And instead of slowing down, they want to move extra fast forward as an answer. And democracy, i can't choose the people in Brussel. And if you vote VVD, you vote aitomaticly for Juncker en Verhofstadt. Cause in Holland he says; less eu (before the elections), but sneaky supporting the most eurofile people there are.

well - you should not forget that this discussion made some movement in the politics.
there HAVE been mistakes - there is no doubt on that - but as I said in my last statement that was not at least because the whole europe let germany alone.

so the news from yesterday are actually not up to date because look what happens in Gerany right now. They close mosques what are suspected to be radical - they bring members from one botherhood to the next to jail - so thereis a LOT of movement in that issue.

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Most people wanted a EU, but most people also wants to stay souvereign. And look how the national politicians play with you.
that was indeed one of the big mistakes of the EU and because there have been a lot of people in charge of unnessecary things (I say only: angle of curvature of the banana)

nobody went on the big issues because nobod knew what the big issues are. and so they made small and unrelevant things what became big isues at the end.

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Saying there must go extra money to Greece, but not saying the truth. The greek don't need money, the banks that lent them money had to be paid. And again we pay the (german) banks for making bad deals and taking risk. Just let the bank fail and help Greece. Cause it already takes 10 years and they will be in debt many many more years to come. But the politicians rather blame the greek people. Just stop with the euro, make a Neuro with only northern countries. Or give back the dutch Guilder. Else you need more and more EU with 1 monetary system and more rules. Sweden does ok with their Swedish Krone, England has his pound...

You know who also wanted 1 big Europe....
i think here you missunderdīstand the whole case.

ALL european countries should be thankful to greece because they have been the most important part what went to the zero-interest.

Germany in example is the biggest creditor to Greece - Greece ows Germany 73 Billion Euro. BUT
with the low interest (mainly caused by the Greek crisis) Germany safed til today nearly 350 Billion in interest (5 times more as Greece owes)

A even bigger effect happend in all other EU-countries with high public dept but less or no credit to Greece.

Ao actually they owe us nothing and we have to say thank you to them :-)

Horatio Caine 03-28-2017 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21661981)
fucking up their country and economies??

wow, wow.. easy tiger, you aren't saying in your case you actually had economy to fuck up? Hope not.. :1orglaugh You just ran because there was an opportunity. As matter of fact you ran before first bomb hit Belgrade. And ran fast. :2 cents:

Joshua G 03-28-2017 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21662020)
You've seen the next step without realizing it.

The problems we've seen with refugees to the EU has shown us that Erdagon needs to be taken out of power and/or to start purposely killing more in the ME, not try to remove ISIS with precision. Trump has started this new tactic already :(

US admits it conducted Mosul air strike 'at location' where '200' civilians died | The Independent

so dumb neo-con lib wants to overthrow the leader of turkey now. you are to the right of trump dumb lib!

with whose army dumb lib? did you want hilary & obama running that show? because they had 5 years to do something & what did they do, dumb lib?

dumb lib.

:1orglaugh

Tasty1 03-28-2017 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21662038)
well - you should not forget that this discussion made some movement in the politics.
there HAVE been mistakes - there is no doubt on that - but as I said in my last statement that was not at least because the whole europe let germany alone.

so the news from yesterday are actually not up to date because look what happens in Gerany right now. They close mosques what are suspected to be radical - they bring members from one botherhood to the next to jail - so thereis a LOT of movement in that issue.



that was indeed one of the big mistakes of the EU and because there have been a lot of people in charge of unnessecary things (I say only: angle of curvature of the banana)

nobody went on the big issues because nobod knew what the big issues are. and so they made small and unrelevant things what became big isues at the end.



i think here you missunderdīstand the whole case.

ALL european countries should be thankful to greece because they have been the most important part what went to the zero-interest.

Germany in example is the biggest creditor to Greece - Greece ows Germany 73 Billion Euro. BUT
with the low interest (mainly caused by the Greek crisis) Germany safed til today nearly 350 Billion in interest (5 times more as Greece owes)

A even bigger effect happend in all other EU-countries with high public dept but less or no credit to Greece.

Ao actually they owe us nothing and we have to say thank you to them :-)

And since when did they start with going after the radical mosques... that is cuase right parties put it in public, cause some parties turned blind eye for years and saying you where a nazi mentioning the problems. Even now in Holland they still turn a blind eye. If they saw it earlier, like most people, it wouldn't have come this far. Pim Fortuyn who was shot in Holland said it already 10 years ago. But than they said he was a nazi. In the end now even left wing parties admitted he was right on many things (and had solutions and wanted dialogue)...

Must i be happy that Germany makes a lot of money with the loans while the Greek people suffer? And they are talking now about a new problem in Greece. Most young people start leaving greece, and who will now pay for the pensions of their elderly people... Maybe Germany must just take all greece debts, they only profited from it. Just like Europe suffers from "wir schaffen das".

And Germany profiting most from cheap labour... And yes, 0% interetst, i heard my father complaining that he get less pension cause the pension funds make less profits on their stocks and other investments and are getting in trouble cause of 0% interest....

When there was a Greek drachme it would be much easier to get rid of the problems.

thommy 03-28-2017 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 21662110)
And since when did they start with going after the radical mosques... that is cuase right parties put it in public, cause some parties turned blind eye for years and saying you where a nazi mentioning the problems. Even now in Holland they still turn a blind eye. If they saw it earlier, like most people, it wouldn't have come this far. Pim Fortuyn who was shot in Holland said it already 10 years ago. But than they said he was a nazi. In the end now even left wing parties admitted he was right on many things (and had solutions and wanted dialogue)...

I am with you on that point - because I think that "political correctness" brought us in trouble not only in that issues.

I t MUST be allowed to say any concerns a person might have loud and dicuss it.
if not - it will happen the same as with terrorism - people will become radicalised.

I think this is also one of the big problems in USA were you canīt even say black soes to black shoes anymore without getting this stupid political correctness hammer on your head.

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Must i be happy that Germany makes a lot of money with the loans while the Greek people suffer? And they are talking now about a new problem in Greece. Most young people start leaving greece, and who will now pay for the pensions of their elderly people...
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also here I am part with you - but waht happens in Greece is the fucking same as happens in USA. This people lived many centuries far over their limits and one day you have to pay it back.
They also tricked themself into the European Union by presenting false numbers with the help of a US adviser company what is specialiced in "make up" balances.

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Maybe Germany must just take all greece debts, they only profited from it. Just like Europe suffers from "wir schaffen das".
Europe did not suffer because Europe did not take refugees - the biggest number took Germany but in relation to the number of citizens Hungary, Sweden and Austria had to bear the heaviest burden (and did not have any terror attack from it)

http://www.noz-cdn.de/media/document...442239085.jpeg

even compared to the number of citizens Germany took nealy 7 times more than Netherlands.

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And Germany profiting most from cheap labour...
Germany is one of the countries with very high labour costs as you see here.

http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/...HgThqEYIEpY%3D

Germany is also not the only country what had a profit on that.

Take 5% from this and you know how much the Netherlands where saving:

https://de.statista.com/graphic/5/21...iederlande.jpg

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And yes, 0% interetst, i heard my father complaining that he get less pension cause the pension funds make less profits on their stocks and other investments and are getting in trouble cause of 0% interest.

When there was a Greek drachme it would be much easier to get rid of the problems.

looks like you do not know the idea behind interest.
If you can money money from money by just donīt spend it it is the end of any economy.

Interest on money finds its justification in the rate of inflation ONLY.

If you look at the avarge prices since the interest rate went down you will see that those are decreasing even more. in the past few years we even had a deflation what means that money on the bank becomes even more value WITHOUT interest.

http://finanzmarktwelt.de/wp-content...n-Eurozone.png

the funny part here for me is that everyone here who talks about economy does not even have the smallest clue from it.
it would take decades to teach the most here why it is crazy to vote for someone like trump if you want a better economy.
this guy have also NO IDEA about it.

Paul Markham 03-28-2017 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 21661828)
Paul, Iceland banned strip clubs 7 years ago. Those links are older than you dentures.

And yes, they are low skilled and walfare loving people. They came to Iceland in early 2000's during construction boom, segregated themselves, got on welfare and now refuse to leave. Sounds familiar?
Do you consider yourself "high-skilled"? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

If they are low skilled, they need to be sent back to where they came from.

Paul Markham 03-28-2017 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 21661753)
The migrant OP complaining about migrants again.

You couldnt make it up.

Fucking idiot.

:1orglaugh

This is about the people of a country deciding their future.

Paul Markham 03-28-2017 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 21661843)
90% could and would, but your low skilled profession requires certain level of shame, health risks and throwing away any other opportunity of having normal family and life. Lets be honest, C++ programmer or surgeon can learn how to take nude pictures a lot faster than you learning how to perform surgery or write a program. Come on, Paul. I have some of you content and I will say its not the best. Im not saying that you had few good sets out there for skin mags and all, but most of it is just average porn crap.

What shame, health risks and as for throwing away opportunities. You're stupid, the money people at my level made would make them take the opportunity with both hands.

Program surgeons, etdc. We're talking about the low paid, low skilled here. :321GFY

Average to pay $3,000 a set which took 40 minutes to shoot. :1orglaugh

Bladewire 03-28-2017 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21662842)
This is about the people of a country deciding their future.

They decided their future when they let unvetted immigrants into their country.

None of the EU countries are proposing to vet current immigrants in the country and deport the ones that don't pass vetting.

Politicians are getting People angry to get elected by just saying not to let anymore in, which doesn't address possible terrorists they've already let i'.

Paul Markham 03-28-2017 12:57 PM

Thommy please post stats in English. And include wages by year and by percentile. The top 10% are doing well, the top 1% are doing very, very well. The bottom 50% are suffering and will suffer more if the migrants don't return home and start raising families.

The future will hold fewer jobs, more people applying for jobs and lower wages and higher benefits.

TheSquealer 03-28-2017 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 21659644)
Paul, i am well aware of German history - a reason why I argue with xenophobes and racists today. I learned from history, you obviously not so much.

That was one lesson.

The lesson taught by Nazis and Hitler to the rest of the world was "identify the problem, call it what it is and stop it before its unstoppable".

To bad that all flew right over Germany's head in the quest to annihilate gypsies and jews and cripples and blacks and gays and take over the planet.

Paul Markham 03-28-2017 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21661906)
paul what you still not understand is, that we are talking about 3-4 DIFFERENT issues.

issues 1: legal immigration:

no country in the world (and ESPECIALLY German) letīs immigrants easy in.
If there is no need for any kind of worker in the country and if they are not willing to integrate they will definately NOT go in.

I know A LOT of company bosses in Germany what tries to get some in but 95% are not allowed.

I stopped reading there because you obviously don't have a clue. Read up on EU migration. https://www.google.cz/webhp?hl=en&gw...s+in+germany&*

https://www.google.cz/webhp?hl=en&gw...s+in+germany&*

EU Migration, Welfare Benefits and EU Membership - Migration Observatory - The Migration Observatory

https://www.google.cz/webhp?hl=en&gw...nts+benefits&*

TheSquealer 03-28-2017 01:04 PM

And before anyone says anything about America and "immigrants" it should always be remembered that American immigrants immigrated to become American, because they believed in the same dream, because they wanted success in life and a better life for their children and they wanted to achieve it through everything that America offered and by following that shared dream.

They didn't step out of a war where both sides are committing genocide (and one trying to establish an Islamic Caliphate) simply because they found themselves on the losing side of a murderous rampage.... and move here with zero intention of becoming American, valuing American ideals and traditions and customs etc. Thats EXACTLY what Germany opened the door to... even worse, is that you stupid fucks made it the EU's problem and neighboring countries didn't even get a vote or say in the matter.

Paul Markham 03-28-2017 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 21659644)
Paul, i am well aware of German history - a reason why I argue with xenophobes and racists today. I learned from history, you obviously not so much.

Then stop quoting GB History.


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