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directfiesta 04-06-2017 09:40 PM

but no missiles for ISIS ..... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

so obvious.

Rochard 04-06-2017 09:41 PM

I have mixed feelings about this.

While I love to see the United States military flex it's muscles, I am concerned that this can grow out of hand quickly. This is not a case of the United States military against the Syrian military. There are multiple other parties involved - ISIS, the Russians, The Iranians, and a dozen other "rebel" groups - some of which are not fond of the United States.

The past the United States and Russia has fought each other through proxy wars. This is vastly different. This is not the United States secretly arming rebels to take on Assad, but instead a direct attack by the United States military on a Syrian military base where their are Russians and Iranians are stationed.

The worst part is Trump doesn't have a plan at all. Forty-eight hours ago he was telling the world there was no reason to remove Assad, now we are bombing him. We all know there is no plan going forward.

What is most interesting to me is the US forces in the region. There are a few thousand US Marines on the ground in Syria, and also the 24th MEU is currently in the MED. Might get very interesting quickly.

Bladewire 04-06-2017 09:47 PM

Just posted proof the sarin gas bombs were delivered by plane, you hear the planes just before the explosions.

WARNING - not for sensitive viewers!




NALEM 04-06-2017 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 21687493)
Russia should bomb the airbase that the USA uses to kill civilians in Mosul :2 cents:

I cannot speak for DirectFiesta, but I interpreted this sarcastic comment of his/hers along the lines of ... God Bless America's hands are also not so clean when it comes to participating in the Middle East.

Bladewire 04-06-2017 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NALEM (Post 21687793)
I cannot speak for DirectFiesta, but I interpreted this sarcastic comment of his/hers along the lines of ... God Bless America's hands are also not so clean when it comes to participating in the Middle East.

Nobody claimed anyone's hands are clean the idiot said he wished Russia would bomb Americans airbase for a Mosul attack by French bombers from their French aircraft carrier.

Matt 26z 04-06-2017 10:01 PM

I do not believe that Assad gassed those people, but if Trump wants to use that as the narrative to justify some kind of action then so be it. Obama and Hillary's handling of this conflict ranks among the worst in US history. Trump can end this.

Bladewire 04-06-2017 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 21687814)
I do not believe that Assad gassed those people,

You're a Putin propaganda puppet, we know exactly what you "feel" anyone watching RT does.

She's always ahead of the curve

She was calling for military action against Assad again today, as she has been for years now.






directfiesta 04-06-2017 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21687802)
Nobody claimed anyone's hands are clean the idiot said he wished Russia would bomb Americans airbase for a Mosul attack by French bombers from their French aircraft carrier.

Twice with the same FAKE news .....

What, you can't accept that your USA killed children and women , or bombs hospitals, etc...

Quote:

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
PUBLISHED: March 25, 2017 at 11:40 pm | UPDATED: March 25, 2017 at 11:41 pm

BAGHDAD ? An airstrike targeting Islamic State militants in the Iraqi city of Mosul that witnesses say killed at least 100 people was in fact launched by the U.S. military, American officials said Saturday.

U.S. officials did not confirm the reports of civilian casualties but opened an investigation. In the days following the March 17 airstrike, U.S. officials had said they were unsure whether American forces were behind the attack.

The statement issued by the U.S.-led coalition said the airstrike had been requested by Iraqi security forces to target IS fighters and equipment ?at the location corresponding to allegations of civilian casualties.? U.S.-backed government troops were fighting IS forces in that area of western Mosul, the statement said.

Mosul attack with high civilian casualties linked to U.S. military
So, if you apply the same logic, Russia could be outraged of the massacre and decide to send a message , hence bomb aù US used airfield in Iraq, from where those planes took off ....
.. or it is only a one way street ???


PS: stop with the French , you americans always say that they are pussies, so make up your mind!

Rochard 04-06-2017 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21687790)
Just posted proof the sarin gas bombs were delivered by plane, you hear the planes just before the explosions.

WARNING - not for sensitive viewers!




You are jumping to conclusions here.

There is no doubt in my mind Assad dropped these chemical weapons. However, Assad (and the Russians) are claiming this air raid exploded chemical weapons already on the ground. Although we have a "best guess", shouldn't we be sure before we drop bombs on another country?

directfiesta 04-06-2017 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 21687814)
I do not believe that Assad gassed those people, but if Trump wants to use that as the narrative to justify some kind of action then so be it. Obama and Hillary's handling of this conflict ranks among the worst in US history. Trump can end this.

probably you are right ,

Quote:

The retaliation came before the UN or the OPCW, the chemical weapons watchdog, could investigate the incident. Washington sided with the rebel-linked activists, which accused Damascus of killing civilians with toxic gas.

directfiesta 04-06-2017 10:15 PM

Trump ratings are to go way up ( like Dubya ) as US voters like those attacks .... :2 cents:

... and that is ther end of the russia connection inquiry ....

Bladewire 04-06-2017 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 21687823)
Twice with the same FAKE news .....

What, you can't accept that your USA killed children and women , or bombs hospitals, etc...



So, if you apply the same logic, Russia could be outraged of the massacre and decide to send a message , hence bomb aù US used airfield in Iraq, from where those planes took off ....
.. or it is only a one way street ???


PS: stop with the French , you americans always say that they are pussies, so make up your mind!

I am unique and lived overseas for 5 years straight without coming back to visit the U.S. I've seen my country from the outside, don't lump me in with "you Americans" it shows your ignorance of who you're speaking to.

Rochard 04-06-2017 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 21687823)
What, you can't accept that your USA killed children and women , or bombs hospitals, etc...

We sure have. All countries have. It's called the fog of war.

It's pretty obvious to you that the building was a school or a hospital. But in an airplane thirty thousand feet up, it was nothing more than a map grid or GPS coordinate.

But you have to understand the difference here. Assad (most likely) ordered his military to drop chemical weapons on his own citizens, where as the case you mentioned where the recent US bombing kill one hundred civilians was an accident which is being investigated.

Bladewire 04-06-2017 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21687829)
You are jumping to conclusions here.

There is no doubt in my mind Assad dropped these chemical weapons. However, Assad (and the Russians) are claiming this air raid exploded chemical weapons already on the ground. Although we have a "best guess", shouldn't we be sure before we drop bombs on another country?

You know how sarin gas bombs work right? You have to have and equal mixture of methylphosphonyl difluoride and methylphosphonic dichloride that create the gas when exploded. Bombing sarin chemical weapons factory doesn't create sarin gas, it's a specific precise measurement to make them work.

The reason there is a civil war in Syria is because Assad tortured and murders children and adults .. Its a long story you should know this already.. we should have taken out Assad years ago, just like NK this is long overdue.

ZiggiZiggiCrew 04-06-2017 10:31 PM

BEIRUT, LEBANON (6:50 A.M.) ? ISIL launches offensive near military base targeted by US missiles
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article...d-us-missiles/

Bladewire 04-06-2017 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21687841)
. Assad (most likely) ordered his military to drop chemical weapons on his own citizens,

You do know he admitted to Having chemical weapons and promised to dispose of them while also refusing to sign the treaty to do so right? When have Assads fighters ever been bombed with sarin gas by rebels? NEVER

After the previous sarin attack remember Assad bombed the clinic hours later where survivors were being treated. Imagine that, the suffering and pain of the burning suffocation and being lucky enough to make it to a clinic and as you start to open your eyes as the swelling goes down the clinic gets bombed and your arms are blown off while others are dead.

baddog 04-06-2017 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 21687742)
poor senile fuck .....

Canadien français de souche ... stie ...

Pis mange de la marde, vieux crisse !!!!

Paye tes taxes ( oups ) pour tuer des enfants ....

Why is directfiesta ashamed of his heritage now?

Bladewire 04-06-2017 11:11 PM

Pretty obvious Putin knows the chemical weapons are on the Syrian airbase as Russian troops have shared it with the Syrians for a while now, Putin is complicit in the recent gas attack.

"On Thursday, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said that Russia had failed to carry out a 2013 agreement to secure Syrian chemical weapons, adding that Moscow was either complicit or incompetent in its ability to uphold that deal.

Tillerson said that the U.S. had a high degree of confidence that sarin nerve gas had been used in Tuesday's chemical attack in northern Syria."

Trump launches attack on Syria with 59 tomahawk missiles

Bladewire 04-06-2017 11:37 PM











Paul Markham 04-07-2017 12:07 AM

Let the Muslims kill each other. We have given them opportunities to join the modern world and they refuse to. So let them live in the past.

klinton 04-07-2017 12:27 AM

peace loving candidate, not war monger, like Hillary !

where are all GFY useful idiots praising Trump before ?
nico-t ?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

as for gas attack...well...terrible thing, but what would Assad gain of this ? went insane ?

Ramirez 04-07-2017 01:26 AM

War will happen sooner or later.

War = Money for the already rich people who rule our world.

ZiggiZiggiCrew 04-07-2017 01:36 AM

"Attack to the Syrian air base has been made directly during a joint lunch of Trump and the SI" - message for China?

CarlosTheGaucho 04-07-2017 02:04 AM

“There is no doubt in our minds, and the information we have supports that Syria, the Syria regime under the leadership of President Bashar al-Assad are responsible for this attack,” Tillerson said.

Sounds exactly like from the GWB 43's playbook.

Terrible, absolutely useless strike that will accomplish absolutely nothing apart from strenghtening the actual Jihadi's that are still on the field in Syria.

Still can't wrap my head around who came up with this insane, ill move and what is the motivation behind it.

NatalieK 04-07-2017 03:02 AM

tit for tat retaliation is never a good thing, however, the aircraft are being wiped out that killed many civilians from the chemical attack earlier in the week.

Disable the problem... nice move US :2 cents:

nico-t 04-07-2017 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 21687664)
72 dead fucking bodies for one...but it doesn't really matter what proof you are shown you will ignore it..

Syria "chemical weapon" attack proven by autopsies Turkey says as Trump blames Assad regime - CBS News

Turkey has already done autopsies on some of the bodies.. It was Sarin gas..

Turkish Justice Minister Bekir Bozdag said Thursday that autopsy results on victims of the attack in Khan Sheikhoun, Idlib province, confirmed that a ?chemical weapon was used.? A statement later Thursday by Turkey?s health ministry said the autopsy results pointed to an attack with the deadly nerve agent Sarin. Chemical weapons experts who spoke to CBS News after seeing video of the victims also said it appeared to be a likely Sarin gas attack.


Autopsies on three of those who lost their lives were carried out at a Turkish forensics institute in Adana, according to local media. The victims died after being ferried across the border for treatment with around thirty others.

Great story. No proof WHO did it though, which is what he meant... not proof of the weapon used you idiot.

This reeks of a huge setup btw, false flag story.

Think about it. Assad is in a comfortable winning position against Isis right now. When he was with his back against the wall a few years ago and isis was a lot bigger, he didnt use gas attacks. In all this time he never used it. And now that he is winning, all of a sudden he feels its necessary to attack with gas? It doesn't add up at all.

And remember, the US priority during all this was constantly focusing on Assad regime instead of fighting isis. Their primary objective was, and still is, to overthrow assad to place one of their puppets there. This sarin gas attack, when isis is already diminishing, is very, very, very convenient for the anti Assad agenda...

Again, why would he all of a sudden use sarin gas at a time where isis is at its weakest and smallest since their occupation of syria?

Too convenient. Too good to be true for the US overthrow plan. Assad has come this far, and all of a sudden he stops thinking and gasses people like a retard? Yea im sure he would do that at a time where he could almost rule the country again.

Think, analyze, and see how this doesn't make any sense. I say it's complete bullshit.

Paul Markham 04-07-2017 03:20 AM

Cam the West stand back and allow people like Assad to use WMDs?

And if so does that stretch to Nuclear Weapons?

IS is backed by many Muslims and Muslim countries, they didn't just appear fully armed without a lot of financial backing.

Can a moderate leader rule countries like Syria, given the deep divides withing its tribal culture?

After losing the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya, will the West lose this one? Losing a war = the country not reverting back to type or worse after the troops leave.

We must stop thinking of Western solutions to ME problems. Hamas is condemning the people the Gaza strip to brutal reprisals because it will not stop firing missiles into Israel. Israel has no intention of stopping its expansion into the West Bank. After that where next?

These people still believe in Adam and Eve, Cain and Abel and all the other bullshit in their bibles for the only purpose of military expansion. God tells them to do it. Or their tribal leaders tell them God told him to tell them to do it.

We either pull out and buy the oil from the winners or occupy the ME. Which is maybe what Russia will do and suck up the casualties.

JohnnyNight 04-07-2017 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 21687643)
idiot....

Haha.. BALL LICKING jackass.. dopey idiot bastard..lol..

Gulf of Tonkin... WMD in Iraq...

US loves to make things up to start wars...

JohnnyNight 04-07-2017 03:48 AM

So this is supposedly the airbase where chemical weapons are stored and launched from..

FLASH..!! No signs of chemical weapons being hit in raid..

Gee.. Wonder why... Maybe because they aren't any there..??

Amazing to watch all these jackass reporters on TV not even ask the question...

"Where's the proof..??"

Real proof not dopey ass statements like "Undoubtedly Syria did this.."

pimpmaster9000 04-07-2017 03:50 AM

why would assad use chemical weapons on civilians?...what possible tactical advantage could he gain by killing dozens of random people?....

can somebody name one single possible tactical or any other advantage for assad to use chemical weapons to kill dozens?...

let me answer for you: no :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

this whole thing stinks of false flag...my bet it was USIS or israel...

OldJeff 04-07-2017 04:14 AM

Middle East has been a shit show for all of my life, and it's not like we haven't been bombing Syria for the past dozen years or so.

The troubling part here is both Trump and Putin are batshit crazy enough to start tossing nukes

klinton 04-07-2017 05:22 AM

this is the most logical explanation that I agree with. However, you dont calculate here one thing - maybe Assad is insane ?:winkwink::winkwink:
all these years as top chief commander can make people go psychopat...and that would be really sad ;]
Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 21688171)
Think about it. Assad is in a comfortable winning position against Isis right now. When he was with his back against the wall a few years ago and isis was a lot bigger, he didnt use gas attacks. In all this time he never used it. And now that he is winning, all of a sudden he feels its necessary to attack with gas? It doesn't add up at all.

And remember, the US priority during all this was constantly focusing on Assad regime instead of fighting isis. Their primary objective was, and still is, to overthrow assad to place one of their puppets there. This sarin gas attack, when isis is already diminishing, is very, very, very convenient for the anti Assad agenda...

Again, why would he all of a sudden use sarin gas at a time where isis is at its weakest and smallest since their occupation of syria?

Too convenient. Too good to be true for the US overthrow plan. Assad has come this far, and all of a sudden he stops thinking and gasses people like a retard? Yea im sure he would do that at a time where he could almost rule the country again.

Think, analyze, and see how this doesn't make any sense. I say it's complete bullshit.


Sarn 04-07-2017 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21687829)
You are jumping to conclusions here.

There is no doubt in my mind Assad dropped these chemical weapons. However, Assad (and the Russians) are claiming this air raid exploded chemical weapons already on the ground. Although we have a "best guess", shouldn't we be sure before we drop bombs on another country?

No.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casus_belli
http://know-this.ru/uploads/55fb28455d394.jpg

ZiggiZiggiCrew 04-07-2017 06:32 AM

I wait this
https://static.life.ru/ffa840360696c...eb2f__980x.png

EonBlue 04-07-2017 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 21687448)
...btw , which American city has been attacked by Syria ????

By that pea-brained logic the USA never should have fought against Germany in WW2.




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Sarn 04-07-2017 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 21688537)
By that pea-brained logic the USA never should have fought against Germany in WW2..

Japan and Germany were allies and Declared war against USA. But attack in Syria it is violation international laws against sovereign country - act aggression. And without approve congress it is violation constitution USA :1orglaugh

EonBlue 04-07-2017 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21688594)
Japan and Germany were allies and Declared war against USA. But attack in Syria it is violation international laws against sovereign country - act aggression. And without approve congress it is violation constitution USA :1orglaugh

Syria is a failed state and should longer qualify as a sovereign country. Half of its territory is now controlled by the so called "Islamic State" which is recognized by no one.

So you're a US constitutional expert?

Anyways, Obama made the same constitutional violation in Libya in 2011. So did Clinton in Yugoslavia. I assume you were just as concerned about the US constitution in those cases, right?



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Google Expert 04-07-2017 07:32 AM

Haha, that fucker Putin thought he had a buddy in the White House

:1orglaugh

Fuck Putin

directfiesta 04-07-2017 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 21688537)
By that pea-brained logic the USA never should have fought against Germany in WW2.




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Please feed the pea ,,,, lol

Quote:

Although the war began with Nazi Germany's attack on Poland in September 1939, the United States did not enter the war until after the Japanese bombed the American fleet in Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, on December 7, 1941.

https://www2.gwu.edu/~erpapers/teach...orld-war-2.cfm
anything else I can educate you with ?

EonBlue 04-07-2017 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 21688792)
anything else I can educate you with ?

You haven't educated me on anything and you could never hope to.

Except maybe communism, because you are a pea-brained communist. But I already know communism is shit and it's followers are retards so don't bother.



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