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DraX 04-07-2017 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 21689155)
and "won" the election thanks to endless hacking by the Russians

Please provide evidence of this claim, thanks

Joshua G 04-07-2017 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 21689194)
Easy, you goddam fucking twat. Assad may have gassed his own people. Removing him may create an opening for terrorists groups. Russia is pissed at Trump for the retaliation. This move by Trump could be a good thing or could create an escalation. It's a very fair guess to say that no one knows for sure if what Trump did was a good thing or not. I am giving your boy T points on this one, but OF COURSE ITS COMPLICATED. Stop being such a fucking keyboard warrior for once and try lending something useful to a discussion for a change.

sure mark. IMO you will never give trump credit for anything.

something useful? OK here. nobody has mentioned the interesting timing that bannon got dumped the same time the national security council started deliberating a response to the chemical attack. people in this thread quacking false flag have their heads up their asses. assad used these weapons before. did obama use them as a false flag too so he could make himself look weak? dumb.

its clear trump did a 180 on assad in a matter of a minute. Trump is flexible like that. & he also does not like to look like a sissy with chemical weapons in play. he had no choice but to do this after obama dithered. bannon did not belong in the room, so he got dumped.

trump did this for the show...the chinese world leader was at the resort when all this played out. appearance of strength is important to trump. whats next depends on future events, how adversaries react. russia & USA are relating better than the media portrays i believe. china & russia & USA do not want war with each other for sure.

hopefully you can contribute something more insiteful than what the liberal media morons will spin to you.

:)

Bladewire 04-07-2017 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DraX (Post 21689212)
Please provide evidence of this claim, thanks

That world disapeared after the election we are now in a post factual world where anyone can make any accusations they want, without any proof, and their team will support them.. like pizzagate :thumbsup

Barry-xlovecam 04-07-2017 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21689239)
That world disapeared after the election we are now in a post factual world where anyone can make any accusations they want, without any proof, and their team will support them.. like pizzagate :thumbsup

Yes, only true facts matter now :1orglaugh

Matt-ADX 04-07-2017 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DraX (Post 21689212)
Please provide evidence of this claim, thanks

This narrative that he won is getting so tired. Eli Lake who works for Bloomberg and is a liberal to his core, does occasional segments on Michael Rapaport's podcast.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli_Lake

The podcast is the least mentally taxing podcast in the world IMO. So they have him on when they want to better understand whatever is going on in the world. Recently with all the Flynn stuff, they had him on to explain what all this means. Really good segment and worth listening too - Starts at 1h:01m in


I AM RAPAPORT: STEREO PODCAST - EP 280 - JOY TAYLOR/EMERGENCY SEGMENT WITH ELI LAKE | Listen via Stitcher Radio On Demand

The jist of it is that, Trump can't be a fascist because he is too dumb, that the Establishment vs Trump has been Trump getting his ass kicked. That Flynn isn't or was never with the Russians, he asked for Immunity because he probably needs it from the foreign agents act. When he left his Gov job is that he did consulting (that everyone in Government does this, thats how they make their nut, foreign countries pay you to tell them how people you worked with in washington think, basically give them all the info you know)

Flynn was doing that and taking money from a Turkish business man who was connected to the Turkish Government, and filed it under another act. Ie: he isn't a Turkish Agent because it wasn't directly from the Government... After he resigned he insta filed as an agent with Turkey which seems to be that he was taking money from the guy while national security adviser which is bad. But probably wouldn't go to jail over that. But that there could be something else, but it's clear that he did break that first law.

TLDR: Russian's didn't cause Trump to win, they used bots and fake news to influence but didn't cause it.

Barry-xlovecam 04-07-2017 10:50 AM

This is just another puff of Trump smoke -- Trump has no plan other to get some press attention. I don't expect much from this at this point.

AndyA 04-07-2017 10:54 AM

mr fucking nationalist.... now surrounded by generals

only took him a few months to get us into a new war

Barry-xlovecam 04-07-2017 11:13 AM

we will see ...
 
https://s29.postimg.org/fw9yommhz/trump-napoleon.jpg

Sarn 04-07-2017 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21689485)

on photo: Obama come back
https://pp.userapi.com/c837523/v8375...Q5UNrzrJRE.jpg
:1orglaugh

john1975 04-07-2017 11:54 AM

The Mar-A-Lago Situation Room last night



http://l.wigflip.com/5BnZFSVe/roflbot.jpg

TheDynasty 04-07-2017 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 21689023)
Cold wars become world wars quickly when idiots are in charge

:2 cents::2 cents:

Rochard 04-07-2017 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by john1975 (Post 21689554)
The Mar-A-Lago Situation Room last night



http://l.wigflip.com/5BnZFSVe/roflbot.jpg

Why the fuck is Bannon in that room?

Barry-xlovecam 04-07-2017 06:35 PM

Trump's air strike opens the road for ISIS

ISIL launches offensive near military base targeted by US missiles

https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/arti...d-us-missiles/

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Capitalizing on the U.S. missile strikes, the Islamic State stormed the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) checkpoints near the strategic town of Al-Furqalas.

According to local sources, the Islamic State has yet to make any gains near Al-Fuqalas, but without necessary air support, the situation could worsen in the coming hours.
if it is creditable :helpme

The are no winners in Syria ...

directfiesta 04-07-2017 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21690157)
Trump's air strike opens the road for ISIS

ISIL launches offensive near military base targeted by US missiles

https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/arti...d-us-missiles/



if it is creditable :helpme

The are no winners in Syria ...

US weapons are on they way as well .... to support the '' rebels '' ....

marlboroack 04-07-2017 08:46 PM

Bill is lucky to have her as a wife. Shes smart

Sarn 04-08-2017 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21690157)
...
The are no winners in Syria ...

ISIS winners! :thumbsup
No way war with they. Need open EU and USA borders. And Russia must withdrawal our army from Syria. Bloody assad dictator must be killed. :thumbsup
Shocking new footage of ISIS massacre in Tikrit | Daily Mail Online

Barry-xlovecam 04-08-2017 04:49 AM

https://s28.postimg.org/el8s50nal/Ge...17-714x429.jpg

Russia bans image of Vladimir Putin in makeup – POLITICO

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Russia bans image of Vladimir Putin in makeup

Picture said to imply ?the supposed nonstandard sexual orientation? of Putin.


A picture portraying Russian President Vladimir Putin in full makeup has been banned and listed as ?extremist material? by the Russian Justice Ministry, the Guardian reported Thursday.
Putin can go too (be careful what you ask for you might just get it) ...

At least Trump memes are legal here

klinton 04-08-2017 04:52 AM

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/2d/2dcf0...b0feb71bac.jpg
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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21690640)
ISIS winners! :thumbsup
No way war with they. Need open EU and USA borders. And Russia must withdrawal our army from Syria. Bloody assad dictator must be killed. :thumbsup
Shocking new footage of ISIS massacre in Tikrit | Daily Mail Online


Sarn 04-08-2017 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21690670)
Russia bans image of Vladimir Putin in makeup ? POLITICO
Putin can go too (be careful what you ask for you might just get it) ...
At least Trump memes are legal here

Putin must go too. Let's start revolution again and communists coming to Power. :thumbsup
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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21690679)

:1orglaugh

Barry-xlovecam 04-08-2017 05:23 AM

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The Pentagon alerted Russian military counterparts to minimize the risk of conflict. A spokesman said the strike appeared to have ?severely damaged or destroyed Syrian aircraft?. Russian authorities disputed the claim, saying many missiles missed their targets. By Friday afternoon the base was already launching flights again, according to AFP.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...-pentagon-live

fake news!!! :1orglaugh

This will not end well ...

klinton 04-08-2017 05:32 AM

http://i.imgur.com/Sw3xxL8.jpg
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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21690703)
hello comrades !


Sarn 04-08-2017 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21690724)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20110716102402

Barry-xlovecam 04-08-2017 05:46 AM

even better ....
https://www.palmerreport.com/opinion...arplanes/2223/

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The U.S. military knows full well that the only way to disable an enemy air force base is to destroy the airstrips. Otherwise, the enemy can simply turn around and launch any undestroyed planes, or quickly bring in replacement planes and launch them. The only reason the U.S. military would have carried out such a pointlessly ineffective attack last night is if it was ordered not to take out the airstrips.

Recommended reading: The Plot to Hack America

Why would Donald Trump have insisted that the air strips at the Syrian base be left intact? The only plausible explanation is that Assad and Russia wanted it that way, and Trump wanted to keep them happy. CNBC is reporting that the U.S. did indeed tell Russia about the Syria attack in advance (link). And in turn the Washington Post is reporting that Russia had S-400 surface to air technology in place in Syria which could have shot down the Tomahawks (link) – but Russia declined to use it last night.

Since when does the U.S. carry out big and bombastic military action that has no intention of doing any real damage to the air base it’s targeting? And since when does Russia sit back and fail to defend its own close ally Syria against a military attack it knows is coming? The most logical theory is still the same one I settled on last night (link): Vladimir Putin knew the U.S. attack on Syria would be harmless because Putin orchestrated the whole stunt. Contribute to Palmer Report
Starting to look like a dog and pony show ..

Sarn 04-08-2017 05:57 AM

Trump to tried proof that he is not Russian spy

Sarn 04-08-2017 06:42 AM

Who from usa military here. what we see on photo :1orglaugh
https://pp.userapi.com/c638831/v6388...ZpfBtB-l2Q.jpg
https://pp.userapi.com/c638831/v6388...nEy4_tvIEU.jpg
https://pp.userapi.com/c638125/v6381...umBj_VUeLU.jpg

Sarn 04-08-2017 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21690808)


thommy 04-08-2017 06:56 AM

what a funny discussion here.

germany was the only country in the world what really DID something for the "poor civilians" what are worth an airstrike now and the whole world laughed about the "german idiots".

now even trump seems to see the tragedy of millions of civilians who just do not want to be on a place where bombs and poison are present 24 hours per day.
last week the same trump said he want to keep assad - now he is bombing him.

is this a president as you want him?
say one thing and doing the opposite?

this crisis in syria is not a crisis between syrians and syrains (@ crocket: has also not much to do with a US army base) - it is a war around a country what is the most important one to deliver oil and gas with pipelines to the european market.

if you investigate a bit about the "nabucco pipeline" you will know a lot more about this war and understand that this is a pure economical war.

i.e. katar (what needs this pipline to deliver theri immense gas ressourses to Europe) financed the syrian rebels since 2012 (when iran and russia got the rights on it)

so in this war is team A: European Union, USA, Katar and Saudi Arabia
which supporting the rebels (and thea re are additionally supported by the al-nusra front and ISIS !!!!!)

and on the other side team B: the alawite-shi'ite Assad regime supported by Russia, shi'ite Iran, shi'ite Hezbollah and shi'ite forces in Iraq

all of them just want this pipeline and tell the whole world bullshit about the reasons of this conflict.

that trump is changing his mind has the reason that he is partner of the saudies and would have an enourmus private advantage when this pipline could be used by them.

so there is a big difference in that when you look behind the curtain - the human factor does not play ANY role in it.

xXXtesy10 04-08-2017 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21690826)
what a funny discussion here.

germany was the only country in the world what really DID something for the "poor civilians" what are worth an airstrike now and the whole world laughed about the "german idiots".

now even trump seems to see the tragedy of millions of civilians who just do not want to be on a place where bombs and poison are present 24 hours per day.
last week the same trump said he want to keep assad - now he is bombing him.

is this a president as you want him?
say one thing and doing the opposite?

this crisis in syria is not a crisis between syrians and syrains (@ crocket: has also not much to do with a US army base) - it is a war around a country what is the most important one to deliver oil and gas with pipelines to the european market.

if you investigate a bit about the "nabucco pipeline" you will know a lot more about this war and understand that this is a pure economical war.

i.e. katar (what needs this pipline to deliver theri immense gas ressourses to Europe) financed the syrian rebels since 2012 (when iran and russia got the rights on it)

so in this war is team A: European Union, USA, Katar and Saudi Arabia
which supporting the rebels (and thea re are additionally supported by the al-nusra front and ISIS !!!!!)

and on the other side team B: the alawite-shi'ite Assad regime supported by Russia, shi'ite Iran, shi'ite Hezbollah and shi'ite forces in Iraq

all of them just want this pipeline and tell the whole world bullshit about the reasons of this conflict.

that trump is changing his mind has the reason that he is partner of the saudies and would have an enourmus private advantage when this pipline could be used by them.

so there is a big difference in that when you look behind the curtain - the human factor does not play ANY role in it.

al bundy, time for meds

Sarn 04-08-2017 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21690826)
...
so in this war is team A: European Union, USA, Katar and Saudi Arabia
which supporting the rebels (and thea re are additionally supported by the al-nusra front and ISIS !!!!!)

and on the other side team B: the alawite-shi'ite Assad regime supported by Russia, shi'ite Iran, shi'ite Hezbollah and shi'ite forces in Iraq
...

Ordinary people take from that - sanctions, islamisation EU, terrorism on streets, rise military bills.

Barry-xlovecam 04-08-2017 07:26 AM

Syria is the same problem as Saddam's Iraq -- a minority led government that represses the majority.

But if the outcome is the same in Syria that we have in/from Iraq -- it is just jumping out of the frying pan into the fire.

Syria does not have substantial oil resources -- Iraq does. Syria is a transport (pipeline) route to the Mediterranean. The Russians are responsible for their client's actions e.g.; Assad's use of chemical weapons. The need to heel their dog.

Sarn 04-08-2017 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21690856)
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The Russians are responsible for their client's actions e.g.; Assad's use of chemical weapons. The need to heel their dog.

What if It is not Assad did it?

https://pp.userapi.com/c639530/v6395...ixsbewFviw.jpg
https://pp.userapi.com/c639530/v6395...uS0d5AqMhI.jpg

Barry-xlovecam 04-08-2017 09:28 AM

The tooth fairy did it ... get real

Sarn 04-08-2017 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21691015)
The tooth fairy did it ... get real

Ok :1orglaugh
http://historywars.info/img/000005.jpg

thommy 04-08-2017 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by xXXtesy10 (Post 21690832)
al bundy, time for meds

well eat them - or canīt you do that either ?

thommy 04-08-2017 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21690856)

Syria does not have substantial oil resources -- Iraq does. Syria is a transport (pipeline) route to the Mediterranean. The Russians are responsible for their client's actions e.g.; Assad's use of chemical weapons. The need to heel their dog.

this is not completely true - it is not ONLY the pipline what would have to go through syria:

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Syria has petroleum and natural gas resources and encourages them. According to experts, the developed oil reserves amount to about 2.5 billion barrels.

As far as the EU embargo against Assad in mid-2011, 90 percent of the Syrian oil exports went to Europe. Until 2009, Syria was the most important oil supplier in Germany in the Middle East, ahead of Saudi Arabia. Syria has so far maintained its own natural gas in its own country.

But at the end of 2012 the Norwegian company ANCIS has now found 14 more productive oil and natural gas deposits in only 250 meters of test drillings off the Syrian Mediterranean coast. With the discovered natural gas, it would be encouraged, could Syria to the world-wide fourth place of all natural gas exporters

TheDynasty 04-08-2017 11:43 AM

thanks for the great discussion in this thread guys!

Rochard 04-08-2017 11:55 AM

So basically Trump called his buddy Putin to warn him, Putin warned Assad, we dropped $100 million in missiles, Assad had very little damage, and twenty-four hours later the same exact fucking planes from the same exact fucking airport dropped more bombs on the same exact target where they used the chemical weapons.

The ONLY thing that happened here is we spent $100 million.

Barry-xlovecam 04-08-2017 12:06 PM

And Trump showed the world how bad-ass he can be. Pretty much ...

xxx6live 04-08-2017 12:06 PM

Martin Armstrong told long ago that this conflict is all about the pipeline, see the maps here:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/w...h-about-syria/

Who knows...

Barry-xlovecam 04-08-2017 12:08 PM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...f9e_story.html

Despite U.S. missile barrage, Syria continues airstrikes against rebels

Cluster fuck round 2


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