thats the question.. they didnt say im fraudulent... they say i have 28% of chargeback and this is not weird because they are promoting free sites and charging people 40$ after they Join the site...

read all the posts and tell me where they say im fraudulent...

and how can they know i have that 28% of chargebacks if they was running the babenet backend.. they havent that logs babenet owns it.

they was only a skin , a frontend or whatever you want to call it of babenet. their program consist only y a few html's with a nonsecure join page. thats all .

I know the real problem is really simple they doesnt have money to pay me. but instead of "say sorrry we have not money to pay you.." they talk about chargebacks fraud and shit here. then in the background the they email me trying to scare me with their attorney and talking me about working things out with me, out of boards...

im not asking for nothing of another world... i only want my money is that simple....

they can talk about chargebacks fraud or whatever but without proofs thats nothing , its like i come here and talk about shaving if i dont have proofs better dont talk.

Yep i did make a mistake there 2 different companys, guy and yohan are dirty as they can get, ask greg lasrado im sure you know him.

Ill never appologize for thiefs and cons

Isra, which other sponsor currently pays you such amounts? tell the truth to jesusreseller. None? Why is that?

anyway,ill hook you up with jesus dialer,there's no way to cheat our dialer system and if you do you'll go to HELL! so, better thing about it TWICE. Deal?

hey Isra,

from the momment you raised this issue, you never mentioned a word about the fact that the product pricing structure would have contributed to the chargeback issue... now you jump on that because it suits your cause.

Second of all, the VISA/MASTERCARD Industry accepted rate for excessive chargebacks is 2.5% - you are 11 x that rate and most probably still climbing as the chargebacks flow in!

ALL Parties ultimately should take the blame.

My tip is you won't see a dime of your 'owed' $11k. The ultimate sanction that vindicates that some party was involved in 'fraud' or 'deceptive marketing' is the termination of the merchant account. period.

Your attempt to blacken dirtyduckets into paying out failed, but in some respects you've enlightened many of us to the reality of the babenet situation. it was good while it lasted, but there are risks with that reward.

Move on!

Let's see what we got:

- 1:25 ratios
- average amount made - 500$/day
- only spanish traffic - lol
- 28% chargebacks

You're a fraud my friend. No doubts!

if he's a fraudin webmaster, why would he post his stats in public? just because your conversion rate is so shitty, don't blame him for fraud.

if he really is cheating, excuse my brains.

For all the people that says Isra is fraudulent:

He has one of the most visited sites in spanish, with about 150k daily quality visitors.

His site is like persiankitty in spanish.

TWO MEN ENTER ONE MAN LEAVES

How does that prove he isn't a scammer?

I'm not their partner and donno nothing about their reputation, but don't deal with the scum....