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directfiesta 04-20-2017 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 21714325)
You don't understand his use of twitter. It's to keep everyone guessing
You don't understand the job of a president ....

crockett 04-20-2017 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21714319)
Trump is fucking everything up.

He told us he "knew better then the generals" and would defeat ISIS in thirty days. Well, it's been nearly one hundred days, all he has done is continue on with what Obama was doing but now bombed Syria. Say what you want about Assad, but he is fighting ISIS. What is the point of this? We will NEVER be able to remove Assad by force because Assad has Russia to protect him. It's time to accept that and move, and continue concentrating on ISIS.

The way Obama was handling ISIS was perfect. Train the Iraqis to handle this on their own, and we can assist with bombing. Maximum effect with no American lives lost.

Now he is fucking with Korea. NOTHING is going to change with Korea. Korea is not going to change because America threatened them yet again. China is not going to change the way they handle things. The only third option is war, and that end with tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands dead in South Korea. That is not acceptable which is why we have had the same policy for the past fifty years.

Then Trump is turning his attention to Iran. Fuck it. Let's kill the agreement we have with them. The only thing that will happen is Iran will development nuclear weapons, which is the direct opposite of what we want. How is that a win.

This is what is happening on the foreign affairs / military situatio with Trump. The domestic side is just as bleak. I honestly believe that we do not feel the full effect of a new president for six months to a year. I can't wait to see where we stand a year from now.
Actually, we could take Asad out and there is nothing at all Russia would do other than talk tough, it would be a reversed Crimea. Accept we had the ability to put sanctions on Russia, but Russia could only talk shit if we took out Asad.

The reason we dont, is because it's bad policy to take out a leader no matter how bad he is. It's the same reason we never took out Castro.

crockett 04-20-2017 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 21714325)
You don't understand his use of twitter. It's to keep everyone guessing
Of course he has a grand master plan to make everyone think he's a fucking idiot.. brilliant!

just a punk 04-21-2017 05:53 AM
Russian armored vehicles and self-propelled artillery systems are being transferred to the NK border:



The commentator says it's a 3rd train for the same morning.

Barry-xlovecam 04-21-2017 06:09 AM
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MOSCOW (Reuters) - The Russian military said on Friday it was not building up its forces near the border with North Korea, denying earlier media reports which said it was, the Interfax news agency reported, citing an army spokesman.

Some media in Russia's Ear East have cited local residents as saying they had seen military hardware being moved toward North Korea as tensions with the United States over its nuclear programme escalated.

"These are totally pre-planned military exercises, which are in no way related to political issues," Alexander Gordeyev, a spokesman for Russia's Eastern military district was quoted as saying.

He said the hardware that people had seen was being transported back to the bases where it was permanently deployed after the end of the exercises.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-a...093641712.html

Who's lying and what is fake news?

Seems to me there should be some satellite imagery released -- why hasn't there been? Too soon?

Google Expert 04-21-2017 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21711994)
Yep, it was never headed to North Korea, it was headed the opposite direction, South, away from North Korea!

Of course Trump is blaming others for his lie, as usual.

Allies learning not to trust Trumps word :disgust

#FuckTrump

US Navy photo reveals aircraft carrier nowhere near North Korea

USS Carl Vinson wasn't headed for North Korea when defense officials said it was
So President Trump took the advantage of the situation to make North Koreans shit themselves. Smart move. Why u mad?

Relic 04-21-2017 07:10 AM
Edit your titles to something apolitical imho op, you're being the negative one now son.

Relic 04-21-2017 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21712111)
what a fuck you are talking about ?
fuck off pussy

just a punk 04-21-2017 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21717595)
Who's lying and what is fake news?
Lying about what? Everything what officials say has no meaning, because if (I said IF) there is any military-related purposes, they will never disclosure it. Nobody told you these transfers is a military preparation. The local people just mentioned the something which is unnatural on their opinion. So the questions have raised. The Russian military spokesman has confirmed the fact of transfers, simple because it's stupid to deny something that everybody could see. But the goals are still unknown.

thommy 04-21-2017 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Google Expert (Post 21717652)
So President Trump took the advantage of the situation to make North Koreans shit themselves. Smart move. Why u mad?
my dear god if your google expertise is that good as your political i doubt that you are successful.

first of all you need to understand asian mantality and donīt compare it with western - these people think not only with the other brainsite they have also a very other logic.

this korean punk plays with trump and makes him confused becaused even the idiot trump should know, that any kind of military intervention there will end in a BIG problem for the complete world.

you all should say thank you to the chinese what are smart and relaxed enough to handle that issue.

why do you think chinese are now in that game?
because they do not trust trump - same as NO politician in the world is trusting him (very good base to make america great again)

the only politician in the world of trump admired is kim jong un.
And he admires him for the fact that he takes from trump that the USA will replace north korea from place 1 of the most hated countries.

JFK 04-21-2017 11:39 AM
Fitty lies:helpme

Google Expert 04-21-2017 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21718378)
my dear god if your google expertise is that good as your political i doubt that you are successful.

first of all you need to understand asian mantality and donīt compare it with western - these people think not only with the other brainsite they have also a very other logic.

this korean punk plays with trump and makes him confused becaused even the idiot trump should know, that any kind of military intervention there will end in a BIG problem for the complete world.

you all should say thank you to the chinese what are smart and relaxed enough to handle that issue.

why do you think chinese are now in that game?
because they do not trust trump - same as NO politician in the world is trusting him (very good base to make america great again)

the only politician in the world of trump admired is kim jong un.
And he admires him for the fact that he takes from trump that the USA will replace north korea from place 1 of the most hated countries.
the Chinese are backing Trump. They are sick of the NK crazy punk kid. They moved troops to the border only to proven the mass refugee rush when US hits NK.

Bladewire 04-21-2017 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Google Expert (Post 21717652)
So President Trump took the advantage of the situation to make North Koreans shit themselves. Smart move. Why u mad?
I guess you didn't read my post that you responded to. I thought I was clear. My appologies.

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Of course Trump is blaming others for his lie, as usual.

Allies learning not to trust Trumps word :-)

thommy 04-21-2017 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Google Expert (Post 21718447)
the Chinese are backing Trump. They are sick of the NK crazy punk kid. They moved troops to the border only to proven the mass refugee rush when US hits NK.
i think you have no clue what that would mean when US would hit korea.
and that is why that never will happen.

the chinese are not backing trump they just want to prevent the idiot from doing something that he can not even guess. trump is a dangerous and completely crazy child at the detachment button of nuclear weapons - and the only people in the world who seems not to be scared about that are the idiots who have voted for him.

that shows EXACTLY the IQ of these voters.

MaDalton 04-21-2017 01:37 PM
Unless the US uses nukes straight away, exactly the same will happen as the first time in Korea, in Vietnam, in Afghanistan, in Iraq, in...

You cannot win a conventional war against a country that has nothing to lose and doesn't value the individual human life.

Bladewire 04-21-2017 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 21718714)
Unless the US uses nukes straight away, exactly the same will happen as the first time in Korea, in Vietnam, in Afghanistan, in Iraq, in...

You cannot win a conventional war against a country that has nothing to lose and doesn't value the individual human life.
I agree.

North Korea has had decades of warnings & sanctions. Send in a couple nukes and be done with the games. Hit Iran at the same time and do the same but with 5 nukes for good measure.

Trumps political strategy is hit'em first and hit'em hard, it will be interesting to see if he has the balls to do this militarily as well.

MaDalton 04-21-2017 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21718729)
I agree.

North Korea has had decades of warnings & sanctions. Send in a couple nukes and be done with the games.

Trumps political strategy is hit'em first and hit'em hard, it will be interesting to see if he has the balls to do this militarily as well.
it would be the end of the US of A - it would morally unite the rest of the world against them.

but sounds remarkably like a Steve Bannon plan..

Bladewire 04-21-2017 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 21718744)
it would be the end of the US of A - it would morally unite the rest of the world against them.

but sounds remarkably like a Steve Bannon plan..
I disagree. Iran funds ISIS & North Korea threatens all of Asia at the becoming call of China, fuck them.

The world is already against America according to GFY fake nic posts so nothing to lose :thumbsup

All Americans are getting tired of being threatened by North Korea, Iran, Putin. Fuck them

MaDalton 04-21-2017 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21718780)
I disagree. Iran funds ISIS & North Korea threatens all of Asia at the becoming call of China, fuck them.

The world is already against America according to GFY fake nic posts so nothing to lose :thumbsup

All Americans are getting tired of being threatened by North Korea, Iran, Putin. Fuck them
if you say so...

i say: whoever starts the next nuclear strike in history will lose in the long run

Relic 04-21-2017 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 21718798)
if you say so...

i say: whoever starts the next nuclear strike in history will lose in the long run
Nuclear detente exists for a reason

MaDalton 04-21-2017 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Relic (Post 21718840)
Nuclear detente exists for a reason
do you even know what that means?

cause it means the opposite of what is happening here

thommy 04-21-2017 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 21718798)
if you say so...

i say: whoever starts the next nuclear strike in history will lose in the long run
what long run ?

there is no long run after that - IF there will be kids born after thathey will look like this:

http://www.lebenshaus-alb.de/magazin...obyl-opfer.jpg

and this was NOT a bomb - it was just a little accident.

?I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.?

Albert Einstein

MaDalton 04-21-2017 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21718876)
what long run ?

there is no long run after that - IF there will be kids born after thathey will look like this:

http://www.lebenshaus-alb.de/magazin...obyl-opfer.jpg

and this was NOT a bomb - it was just a little accident.

“I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”

Albert Einstein
well, let's take into consideration that Trump really launches an attack on North Korea - I doubt that Russia or China would strike back with nukes against the US

they wouldn't even need to, the rest of the world would side with them and condemn the US - mostly cause there is not even proof the weapons NK talks about even exist - see Iraq and their WMDs. Fool me once etc.

And Seoul is only 200 km from Pyonyang - you can't "blow up" NK without devastating SK in the process.

thommy 04-21-2017 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 21718915)
well, let's take into consideration that Trump really launches an attack on North Korea - I doubt that Russia or China would strike back with nukes against the US
very possible because the nuclear fallout will effect them a lot.

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they wouldn't even need to, the rest of the world would side with them and condemn the US - mostly cause there is not even proof the weapons NK talks about even exist - see Iraq and their WMDs. Fool me once etc.
not only that - even a nuclear bomb would not be able to destory the nuclear weapons and knowledge about in in NK.

what is a man doing who stands with the back on a wall?

and even if he have no chance to fire his own arms - the knowledge would go in the wrong hands FOR SURE.
and these hands will not preananounce with a big mouth like kim - they will just do it - same they just did 9/11.

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And Seoul is only 200 km from Pyonyang - you can't "blow up" NK without devastating SK in the process.
well - i donīt think that trump cares them a lot. he cares nobody except himself and the citizens in USA are so brainwashed about that issue that they all think it canīt effect them because the are far away (and so do the others)

a nuclear war is definately the end of the world. only rats and cockroaches can survive that.

a nuclear bomb is a nuclear bomb. there is no difference if that bomb is made in USA, germany china or NK. the quality of a nuclear reaction is a natural physical and everybody who thinks he can survive that will never find out that he was wrong.

thommy 04-21-2017 03:05 PM
https://vimeo.com/11531982

Bladewire 04-21-2017 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 21718915)
they wouldn't even need to, the rest of the world would side with them and condemn the US - mostly cause there is not even proof the weapons NK talks about even exist - see Iraq and their WMDs. Fool me once etc.
So we assume Kim Jong Un & China are lying about North Korea's nuclear capabilities, that China has given them?

Nah, I say they're telling the truth and the games are over. Boom!

MaDalton 04-21-2017 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21718954)
but we also know since Hiroshima and Nagasaki that it doesn't have to be the end of the world - which unfortunately could also be an encouragement to try it again

MaDalton 04-21-2017 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21718966)
So we assume Kim Jong Un & China are lying about North Korea's nuclear capabilities, that China has given them?

Nah, I say they're telling the truth and the games are over. Boom!
you are kind of making my point for me

thommy 04-21-2017 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 21718972)
but we also know since Hiroshima and Nagasaki that it doesn't have to be the end of the world - which unfortunately could also be an encouragement to try it again
the bombs in hiroshima and nagasaki havenīt been even 1/1000 of the small nukes today.
the hiroshima bomb had 13 kilotonns - in the 60s the bombs have been meassured already in megatonns and the explosive power of today's bombs is in the gigatonns range.
just ONE of them is nearly the same explosive power than 1000 hiroshima bombs.

because of the so called overkill-strategy the existing nuclear power is theoreticly able to kill 100 BILLION people (so 92 billion more as exist).

MaDalton 04-21-2017 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21719080)
the bombs in hiroshima and nagasaki havenīt been even 1/1000 of the small nukes today.
the hiroshima bomb had 13 kilotonns - in the 60s the bombs have been meassured already in megatonns and the explosive power of today's bombs is in the gigatonns range.
just ONE of them is nearly the same explosive power than 1000 hiroshima bombs.

because of the so called overkill-strategy the existing nuclear power is theoreticly able to kill 100 BILLION people (so 92 billion more as exist).
you might want to read this

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/12/s...easy.html?_r=0

directfiesta 04-21-2017 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21718780)
I disagree. Iran funds ISIS & North Korea threatens all of Asia at the becoming call of China, fuck them.

The world is already against America according to GFY fake nic posts so nothing to lose :thumbsup

All Americans are getting tired of being threatened by North Korea, Iran, Putin. Fuck them
Iran funds ISIS ......

Are you completely nuts !!!!!!!

Saudia Arabia and Turkey funds ISIS and both are suppliewd with weapons by the USA ....

You really need to get that US flag post out of your ass ... oups, forgot you like that ...

Relic 04-21-2017 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 21718864)
cause it means the opposite of what is happening here
Stop believing in fake news ffs

MaDalton 04-21-2017 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Relic (Post 21719104)
Stop believing in fake news ffs
stop being a troll

Relic 04-21-2017 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 21719116)
stop being a troll
If people troll you, it is your own fault.

MaDalton 04-21-2017 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Relic (Post 21719119)
If people troll you, it is your own fault.
i trolled people on boards while you were still eating dirt in the kindergarten sandpit, no worries about me. :thumbsup

Relic 04-21-2017 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 21719128)
i trolled people on boards while you were still eating dirt in the kindergarten sandpit, no worries about me. :thumbsup
I don't know about that MaDalton but if you say so: :thumbsup

Barry-xlovecam 04-21-2017 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21718042)
Lying about what? Everything what officials say has no meaning, because if (I said IF) there is any military-related purposes, they will never disclosure it. Nobody told you these transfers is a military preparation. The local people just mentioned the something which is unnatural on their opinion. So the questions have raised. The Russian military spokesman has confirmed the fact of transfers, simple because it's stupid to deny something that everybody could see. But the goals are still unknown.
I meant who is lying -- the Russian government or the UK press -- The Sun seems to be the cited source of this story by all those parroting it -- YouTube is the Sun's only real source.

Until proven otherwise I will accept the official statement over youtube and the UK press -- I saw this story and the Youtube videos yesterday and decided to discount them. Until the story is independently collaborated with creditable authority it's not reliable.

Russia: North Korea border troop movements 'our business' | Euronews
China and Russia, North Korea's Neighbors, Deny Preparing for War in Asia

Social media is not a reliable source -- in most cases most fake news and hoaxes originate in social media or from 'mockumentaries' posted on youtube ...

Steve Rupe 04-21-2017 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 21718714)
Unless the US uses nukes straight away, exactly the same will happen as the first time in Korea, in Vietnam, in Afghanistan, in Iraq, in...

You cannot win a conventional war against a country that has nothing to lose and doesn't value the individual human life.
You are smarter than this, at least I think so. They are a pimple on our Military ass.

Steve Rupe 04-21-2017 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21719080)
the bombs in hiroshima and nagasaki havenīt been even 1/1000 of the small nukes today.
the hiroshima bomb had 13 kilotonns - in the 60s the bombs have been meassured already in megatonns and the explosive power of today's bombs is in the gigatonns range.
just ONE of them is nearly the same explosive power than 1000 hiroshima bombs.

because of the so called overkill-strategy the existing nuclear power is theoreticly able to kill 100 BILLION people (so 92 billion more as exist).
Still the megaton range. The largest one ever detonated was by the Soviets and it was 50 megatons. The avg Nuke in our arsenal are 1 to 5 megatons.

Steve Rupe 04-22-2017 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21719080)
the bombs in hiroshima and nagasaki havenīt been even 1/1000 of the small nukes today.
the hiroshima bomb had 13 kilotonns - in the 60s the bombs have been meassured already in megatonns and the explosive power of today's bombs is in the gigatonns range.
just ONE of them is nearly the same explosive power than 1000 hiroshima bombs.

because of the so called overkill-strategy the existing nuclear power is theoreticly able to kill 100 BILLION people (so 92 billion more as exist).
Where did you come up with this misinformation???


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