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just a punk 08-23-2017 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21966527)
bravery of your intellect is astonishing, just like your humour, dear sir.

You are confusing Fascism with Nazism. These are a way different things. Nazism by Hitler is about the antisemitism and declaration of racial superiority. Fascism by Mussolini is the absolute power of State as a total opposition to Liberalism.

Sarn 08-23-2017 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21966511)
Ну он явно знаком с учением Муссолини. И назвать его либералом я бы не смог, ибо упомянутое выше выражение есть самая суть и основа фашизма (не путать с гитлеровским нацизмом). США вообще далеко не самая либеральная страна. Если КНДР это чистый фашизм, а, Швеция это либерализм, то США окажутся где-то посередине.

Таким методом можно всех перемазать фашизмом и подтягивать желаемое к действительному.
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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21966527)
bravery of your intellect is astonishing, just like your humour, dear sir.
:firehair:firehair:banana:banana:GFYBand:GFYBand

:1orglaugh
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21966739)
so sad what Putin is doing to Russians
















Of course :1orglaugh

klinton 08-23-2017 10:13 AM

you confusing me with Sarn ;-) I wasn't participating in that discussion, but if you want...:
Hitler's program was: national socialism. means: nationalism as xenophobia and idea of superiority mixed with social programs for "good people", nation, and total control of the state over people's lives. Now you may answer yourself if it's something similar to current Russian politics or not ;-)
for me Russian politics these days is a mix of oligarchs and power services (FSB, some army etc) that are stealing what they can. For the people that believe them, they throw some bones here and there, like some social welfare, lots of TV/state media propaganda 24/7 to make people think that they do care about the country and "how Russia is strong now, not like before it was on its knees"...terrible propaganda that Goebbels would be proud of.
also, a fear of the people and attempts to control them like they can (internet laws, mainfestation laws, judges dependent on politics/ Putin etc.). typical paranoya of someone that always had a paranoya because he/ they worked in FSB/ KGB :>
strange semi- authoritarian system that tries to control many things, yet prolly its hard to control russian spirit (i mean - soul - not vodka).
like: only guy retarded and paranoic like Putin would say that Maidan was orchestrated by CIA (from the beginning). it simply cant cross his mind that Ukrainians simply got really tired of guys that were robbing them like they could (gold toilets in Yanukovich house etc.)[thats the matter of standards that nation allows basically and who it elects, as politicians are representation of the nation ;-) ]
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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21966913)
You are confusing Fascism with Nazism. These are a way different things. Nazism by Hitler is about the antisemitism and declaration of racial superiority. Fascism by Mussolini is the absolute power of State as a total opposition to Liberalism.


klinton 08-23-2017 10:25 AM

Russian mud for the rest 94 % !
http://www.ssqq.com/archive/images/r...road%2031a.jpg
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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21967233)
russian glamour for 6 % of the society


just a punk 08-23-2017 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21967497)
you confusing me with Sarn ;-) I wasn't participating in that discussion, but if you want...:
Hitler's program was: national socialism. means: nationalism as xenophobia and idea of superiority mixed with social programs for "good people", nation, and total control of the state over people's lives. Now you may answer yourself if it's something similar to current Russian politics or not ;-)
for me Russian politics these days is a mix of oligarchs and power services (FSB, some army etc) that are stealing what they can. For the people that believe them, they throw some bones here and there, like some social welfare, lots of TV/state media propaganda 24/7 to make people think that they do care about the country and "how Russia is strong now, not like before it was on its knees"...terrible propaganda that Goebbels would be proud of.
also, a fear of the people and attempts to control them like they can (internet laws, mainfestation laws, judges dependent on politics/ Putin etc.). typical paranoya of someone that always had a paranoya because he/ they worked in FSB/ KGB :>
strange semi- authoritarian system that tries to control many things, yet prolly its hard to control russian spirit (i mean - soul - not vodka).
like: only guy retarded and paranoic like Putin would say that Maidan was orchestrated by CIA (from the beginning). it simply cant cross his mind that Ukrainians simply got really tired of guys that were robbing them like they could (gold toilets in Yanukovich house etc.)[thats the matter of standards that nation allows basically and who it elects, as politicians are representation of the nation ;-) ]

Everything is correct.

There are 3 main goals of ANY propaganda:
  1. Incite hatred. A hatred to anything or anyone: to gays, to other countries (e.g. to America), to other nations (e.g. to the Ukrainians) or to anything else like... people in white shirts for example. The targets of hatred are not important.
  2. Promote the past (e.g. our Great Victory) and the future (e.g. how good we will live someday... in future...), but never (never fuckin' ever!!!) don't speak about now! Don't tell a single word about the crisis and don't let people think on why they have it.
  3. Make people feel themselves insecure. Like anything may happen in every minute (e.g. ISIS will attack us, Ukrainians or Americans...) Make them think there will be chaos and the skies will fall if something happens to our Great Führer.
These are 3 simple rules that were used by Joseph Goebbels, so does the Putin's propaganda. If anyone has watched Russian TV "news", he knows what I'm talking about...

P.S. Initially I thought your comment was directed to me. Use nicknames or quotes next time ;)

Sarn 08-23-2017 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21967497)
you confusing me with Sarn ;-)

I just had agreed with you and it confusing you? or you had seen your dogmas from another side?
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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21967497)
Maidan was orchestrated by CIA (from the beginning).

The USA captured Ukraine. Is it secret for you? Poland under occupation.
Freedom for Poland!
http://i.imgur.com/2AZRM2G.png
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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21967515)

110 % :1orglaugh
http://countryballs.net/_nw/5/33046976.jpg

just a punk 08-23-2017 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21967551)
I just had agreed with you and it confusing you?

That's called...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ion_poster.jpg

Бывает хороший английский, плохой и твой :(

Bladewire 08-23-2017 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21966801)
What gay man would that be? I only see you spouting gay hate.

You're tripping :1orglaugh troll fail 👄

Bladewire 08-23-2017 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21966913)
You are confusing Fascism with Nazism. These are a way different things. Nazism by Hitler is about the antisemitism and declaration of racial superiority. Fascism by Mussolini is the absolute power of State as a total opposition to Liberalism.

This is Putin fascism discarding non perfect Russians as if there animals in a zoo.

Why don't you try to change this in your country? Become an advocate ?









Sarn 08-23-2017 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by cyberseo (Post 21967577)
Бывает хороший английский, плохой и твой :(

Да нормально там всё

Bladewire 08-23-2017 11:20 AM

Ба́ры деру́тся -- у холо́пов чубы́ треща́т

Sarn 08-23-2017 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21967585)
This is Putin fascism discarding non perfect Russians as if there animals in a zoo.
Why don't you try to change this in your country? Become an advocate ?

You are an American living in America Bladewire :1orglaugh

Sarn 08-23-2017 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21967605)
Ба́ры деру́тся -- у холо́пов чубы́ треща́т

It ukrainian proverb )

Bladewire 08-23-2017 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21967611)
You are an American living in America Bladewire :1orglaugh

And you are a Russian that"s so focussed on hating Americans that you don't see your own hospitals crumbling because of Putin's corruption & greed.

Look inside yourself and your own country instead of doing what Putin wants, and focussing on his outside distractions.

klinton 08-23-2017 11:32 AM

you said: "Jedem das Seine". it means - "to each his own". (by G translate, I dont speak German, im not such poliglote like you. only 2 foreign languages here :P)
I thought thats its your sarcasm or irony about only my nation being stupid.
as for Mexicans - well, nothing wrong with hard working people...do you see anything wrong with that ? If your country would rob you of 70 % of your income giving nothing in return (35 % in direct taxes, other 35 % in semi- direct taxes), would you stay there or try your luck somewhere else ?

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21967551)
I just had agreed with you and it confusing you? or you had seen your dogmas from another side?


Sarn 08-23-2017 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21967633)
you said: "Jedem das Seine". it means - "to each his own". (by G translate, I dont speak German, im not such poliglote like you. only 2 foreign languages here :P)
I thought thats its your sarcasm or irony about only my nation being stupid.
as for Mexicans - well, nothing wrong with hard working people...do you see anything wrong with that ? If your country would rob you of 70 % of your income giving nothing in return (35 % in direct taxes, other 35 % in semi- direct taxes), would you stay there or try your luck somewhere else ?

"Jedem das Seine" (German pronunciation: [ˈjeːdəm das ˈzaɪ̯nə]) is a German proverb meaning "to each his own" or "to each what he deserves". It is a translation of the Latin phrase suum cuique. During World War II the phrase was used by the Nazis as a motto displayed over the entrance of Buchenwald concentration camp.

"every nation gets what it deserves, politicians are only representations of the nation" (c) klinton

What wrong?

Sarn 08-23-2017 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21967619)
And you are a Russian that"s so focussed on hating Americans that you don't see your own hospitals crumbling because of Putin's corruption & greed.
Look inside yourself and your own country instead of doing what Putin wants, and focussing on his outside distractions.

Where had you seen my hate? Hospitals, it thx for Sanctions.

klinton 08-23-2017 12:06 PM

well ok then :)
I know only "arbait macht frei" :)
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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21967671)
"Jedem das Seine" (German pronunciation: [ˈjeːdəm das ˈzaɪ̯nə]) is a German proverb meaning "to each his own" or "to each what he deserves". It is a translation of the Latin phrase suum cuique. During World War II the phrase was used by the Nazis as a motto displayed over the entrance of Buchenwald concentration camp.

"every nation gets what it deserves, politicians are only representations of the nation" (c) klinton

What wrong?


Sarn 08-23-2017 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21967687)
well ok then :)
I know only "arbait macht frei" :)

"arbait macht frei" - it about Poland too :1orglaugh

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-nXxAFNrMJQ...all_toilet.jpg

just a punk 08-23-2017 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21967619)
And you are a Russian that"s so focussed on hating Americans that you don't see your own hospitals crumbling because of Putin's corruption & greed.

Man, you're getting annoying with your hospitals fetish. If someone doesn't like shitty village municipal hospitals, he goes to private clinics with personal rooms, plasma, blackjack and hookers where he'll get everything (even a blowjob from a nurse - not a problem... for your money). And those clinics are still 10x times cheaper than private clinics in the USA. If a Russian doesn't like a free medicine (which is not available in your 3rd-world country), he uses a paid one. What's wrong with that?

Do you understand that you look like a complete idiot when you are trying to compare free clinics in Russia (not the Moscow ones, because they are not bad at all) with paid ones in the States? Go compare yours with our private ones and you'll see how badly you suck to us...

klinton 08-23-2017 02:24 PM

if=after 11 pm
and=>3vodkas
then begin=PATRIOTIC MODE
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21967857)
Man, you're getting annoying with your hospitals fetish. If someone doesn't like shitty village municipal hospitals, he goes to private clinics with personal rooms, plasma, blackjack and hookers where he'll get everything (even a blowjob from a nurse - not a problem... for your money). And those clinics are still 10x times cheaper than private clinics in the USA. If a Russian doesn't like a free medicine (which is not available in your 3rd-world country), he uses a paid one. What's wrong with that?

Do you understand that you look like a complete idiot when you are trying to compare free clinics in Russia (not the Moscow ones, because they are not bad at all) with paid ones in the States? Go compare yours with our private ones and you'll see how badly you suck to us...


just a punk 08-23-2017 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21967879)
if=after 11 pm
and=>3vodkas
then begin=PATRIOTIC MODE
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I'm a 100% patriot. And that's why I hate the Putin's regime, actually. It's destructive for my country, but it doesn't mean that clowns like Bladewire don't annoy me. They've never been to Russia, but they try to look like experts. For example, I've been to his motherland - the USA, worked and traveled there. Why don't I speak about Poland for example? That's because I've never visited it (and don't plan, to be honest). Course I know shit about it. Why would I pretend that I'm an expert of your country? Because... I don't want to look like a clown as Bladewire.

klinton 08-23-2017 02:48 PM

come come :winkwink::winkwink:
there is a world outside Moscow, believe it or not:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21967891)
Why don't I speak about Poland for example? That's because I've never visited it (and don't plan, to be honest). Course I know shit about it.


just a punk 08-23-2017 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21967899)
come come :winkwink::winkwink:
there is a world outside Moscow, believe it or not:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I was born and grew up 1500 kilometers away from Moscow. Believe it or not.

Bladewire 08-24-2017 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21967685)
Where had you seen my hate? Hospitals, it thx for Sanctions.

You blame America for Putin running Russia into the ground while stealing billions from the citizens of Russia. You are brainwashed. So sad

Sarn 08-24-2017 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21968949)
You blame America in sanction. Before Putin Russia was running by communists into the ground, top 200 forbs russia oligarhs stealing billions from the citizens of Russia, but Putin give them tea with polonium but not for all. You not are brainwashed. So good!

yes :thumbsup:1orglaugh

klinton 08-24-2017 04:43 PM

https://img06.deviantart.net/f365/i/...re-da5zsrf.png
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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21969315)
yes :thumbsup:1orglaugh


just a punk 08-25-2017 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21969343)

Vodka is an artifact on your picture. Gopniks drink beer and gnaw sunflower seeds.






Sarn 08-27-2017 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 21969343)

http://www.prikol.ru/wp-content/gall...072017-010.jpg


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