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crockett 05-04-2017 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21746239)
The insurance companies will also start declaring the simplest of things "pre existing conditions" so they'll be thrown into the federally subsidized pool.

Health insurance companies are evil.

I remember in the 90's all the stories of how they fucked over sick people, then tried to cover it up. The guy on live TV protesting insurance companies fucking him over and shot himself in the head with a rifle. Bad times

He shouldn't of shot himself, he should of shot a few insurance company executives.. if you are going to go out, might as well take some real cunts out with you..

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OldJeff 05-04-2017 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 21746119)
Perhaps you should stop being a lazy old fuck and use fucking google. Quit expecting people to spoon feed you and educate yourself... Funny you red hats always expect everyone to do everything for you then do nothing but bitch when they do..

:disgust

I don't know why you insist on calling me a Red Hat, I think the guy is a fucking idiot, The only effect this legislation has on me is I pay less taxes.

You post a wall of shit every day about republicans this, Trumpsters that, but all that is ever brought to the table in the way of proof are bullshit opinion pieces from biased sources.

I am reasonably sure whatever just passed the house is likely a piece of shit, as was Obama care a piece of shit that did nothing but raise premiums.

Bladewire 05-04-2017 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OldJeff (Post 21746332)
I don't know why you insist on calling me a Red Hat, I think the guy is a fucking idiot, The only effect this legislation has on me is I pay less taxes.

You post a wall of shit every day about republicans this, Trumpsters that, but all that is ever brought to the table in the way of proof are bullshit opinion pieces from biased sources.

I am reasonably sure whatever just passed the house is likely a piece of shit, as was Obama care a piece of shit that did nothing but raise premiums.

"Biased sources"? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

And you think this healthcare legislation is going to only lower your taxes, if that?

Your mind is fucked if you think everything you don't want to hear is from a biased source, that's a seriously fucked brain washing in your head.

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crockett 05-04-2017 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 21746422)

Burn it in... "RepublicansDontCare" That's what we call it..

pimpmaster9000 05-04-2017 01:41 PM

American healthcare has become self trolling LoL

OldJeff 05-04-2017 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21746356)
"Biased sources"? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

And you think this healthcare legislation is going to only lower your taxes, if that?

Your mind is fucked if you think everything you don't want to hear is from a biased source, that's a seriously fucked brain washing in your head.

I know it will lower my taxes by eliminating the extra Medicare tax I pay on income above 200k

Other than that my premiums will rise just like they have every year

Bladewire 05-04-2017 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by OldJeff (Post 21746545)
I know it will lower my taxes by eliminating the extra Medicare tax I pay on income above 200k

Other than that my premiums will rise just like they have every year

My point was that the bill will change in the Senate and you don't know how it will impact you until it passes.

Paul Markham 05-05-2017 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 21745759)
You are the foreigner chanting about how great Trump is.. This is what he's trying to get passed and now you blame us for his failures.. :1orglaugh

I'm saying Clinton is no better. And that the American political system is as corrupt as a Third World Nation. The only difference is a Third World Nation tries to hide the corruption.

In America, it's plain to see why you get fucked.

Paul Markham 05-05-2017 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Busty2 (Post 21745810)
Flawed logic, for example if i, as a British citizen became ill in the USA and had to have an emergency operation i was told by NHS that i would have to be resident in the UK for a minimum of 6 months before i became eligible for NH treatment even though i am a UK citizen. Now if i fell ill while on a trip to the UK it would be different but flying back with the knowledge that i needed medical help, then you are still fucked, according to the NHS. I have a letter from them from 2007 showing that.

In practice for pregnancy, they take you in, deliver the baby and send you home.

Paul Markham 05-05-2017 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 21745828)
Hey do you know people with out insurance cost tax payers fucking billions of dollars every year? That is part of what Obamacare was fixing. but of course you don't understand these things, because ohhh liberal did something bad..bad..socialism bad..bad. m'kay!

The entire fucking point of mandatory insurance under Obamacare was to get everyone covered so the uninsured insurance costs weren't pushed onto the tax payers they are now, but of course you Red Hats couldn't figure that out.. because socialism bad m'kay.. Wake up you are already paying for the un-insuraed's heath care cost via your fucking taxes...

The problem with Obamacare was it kept the Insurance in the hands of the private sector. By doing that it ensured the private sector could dictate the prices of insurance and allowed hospitals to overcharge. The whole US medical industry is built around overcharging to make as much profit as possible.

Rearranging the chairs on the Titanic is pointless and until Americans demand a better Healthcare industry, you'll get overcharged.

Barry-xlovecam 05-05-2017 05:45 AM

Insurance has become a corporate tax on American enterprise.

Insurance's purpose is to offset risk not to be a driving economic force.

The idea that you cannot afford medical care without insurance is wrong. Insurance work against market driven competition.

Health security is not an enumerated right in American in constitutional thinking. In 1786 there was no real medical science or professional medical practice as we have today and healthcare was not even considered as a human right -- people died before they lived long enough to think of medical science.

Health security needs to be part of an amendment to the US Constitution otherwise this issue will be revisited over and over with no real resolution other than benefiting one economic group or another.

thommy 05-05-2017 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21747808)
Insurance has become a corporate tax on American enterprise.

Insurance's purpose is to offset risk not to be a driving economic force.

The idea that you cannot afford medical care without insurance is wrong. Insurance work against market driven competition.

Health security is not an enumerated right in American in constitutional thinking. In 1786 there was no real medical science or professional medical practice as we have today and healthcare was not even considered as a human right -- people died before they lived long enough to think of medical science.

Health security needs to be part of an amendment to the US Constitution otherwise this issue will be revisited over and over with no real resolution other than benefiting one economic group or another.

you donīt know HOW RIGHT you are - and THIS are the things what REALLY have to be changed.

I saw yesterday a discussion about trump in a german chanel and even the x-ambassador said the the most succeful in trumps first 100 days was that he could not realize a single issue of what he promised.

i really DO understand that people are tired from the established systems and there is INDEED a lot what have to be changed but trump is the completely wrong answer to that.

so if he is really good for something it is the fact that even the most radical people woke up and see that this is a change from the bad for the worse.
whatever this guy is wanting to do ALL of his ideas are in favour of himself and his family
and are the opposite of MAGA.

i know it is kind of a nogo to talk about the "holy US constition" but this is meanwhile something like the bible - written in a time when the world was so different from now and circumstances havenīt been comparable.

it is this kind of wrong "political correctness" that nobody can even critisize the constitution without beeing called an anti-patriot. but look what happend with it. i do not think that the founders of this act had in mind that you can use it for destroy public votes - that a person what is NOT wanted from the mayority can be the president. and it happend 4 times in the american history. that is a mistake what need to be changed.

another issue is the so called lobbyism - in other countries it is called by itīs real name CORRUPTION. how can it be allowed that people who are near to the biggest and powerful companies of US have a voice in the parlament or consulting the president?

THESE are the things what need to be changed what happens at the moment is not MAGA it is MAMOC (make america more corrupt).

Bladewire 05-05-2017 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21747514)
I'm saying Clinton is no better. And that the American political system is as corrupt as a Third World Nation. The only difference is a Third World Nation tries to hide the corruption.

In America, it's plain to see why you get fucked.

Putin loves you and you can't afford to live in Britain :winkwink:

pimpmaster9000 05-05-2017 07:02 AM

food for thought: if US domestic politics is so obviously corrupt, can you begin to imagine how corrupt US foreign policy is? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

thommy 05-05-2017 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21747964)
food for thought: if US domestic politics is so obviously corrupt, can you begin to imagine how corrupt US foreign policy is? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

i also do not belive that hillary would resolve the basic problems - fact is: with hillary all would stay the same and trump makes this problems worse.

that might be the ONE AND ONLY advantage in his presidency because he is the proove that people yearn for a change and even donīt matter to suicide the country with a donkey in the oval office.

if one of the trump voters would explain his vote for him like that it would make some small sense for me.

pimpmaster9000 05-05-2017 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21748063)
i also do not belive that hillary would resolve the basic problems - fact is: with hillary all would stay the same and trump makes this problems worse.

that might be the ONE AND ONLY advantage in his presidency because he is the proove that people yearn for a change and even donīt matter to suicide the country with a donkey in the oval office.

if one of the trump voters would explain his vote for him like that it would make some small sense for me.

wait for kanye 2020...he said he would run...I hope he does it is going to be the biggest joke ever when he wins :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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