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crockett 05-16-2017 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21771967)
What if Trump not idiot and he just play against israel? ))

Yeah, I mean that would be such a master plan to make every allie we have understand that can't trust Trump with their intel.. Sooo much master plan!


No, he's just that stupid..

Rochard 05-16-2017 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 21771448)
As smart as you claim to be, you should know the powers granted to the President give him the authority to determine if it is in the nation's interest to declassify something

I understand this fully. However, the President - any President - shouldn't be randomly handing over classified information to our adversaries without any thought or discussion.

The proper way to do this is before a meeting to sit down with his staff, including the intelligence agencies, to discuss what they plan on saying, what they plan on offering, and what NOT to say. This is exactly why it has become an issue - There was no planning, no discussion, no meeting, zero preparation, and Trump just tossed this out there without any comprehension of the repercussions.

The repercussions here are so serious that Trump's staff passed this back down to the intelligence community.

This is EXACTLY the problem with Trump. He has zero experience in these matters, doesn't begin to understand how these things work, does zero preparation, and doesn't trust the people who work for him. He has no understand of how much damage a single statement, action, or phone call can do.

One of the complaints most Presidents have about being President is the amount of reading material they have to study. They work a ten hour day, and then have hours of reading to prepare them for the next day. Trump isn't doing this. He doesn't like to read, and doesn't prepare.

There is no planning on anything, and no thought to the consequences. He fired the FBI director with zero thought to the fall out. He didn't even properly prepare his own staff on how to handle questions.

Trump is clearly unqualified to President.

Nothing is being accomplished, and the White House is going from one disaster to another.

What little he is doing is only bad for us. For example, Trump killed the TPP agreement and just handed it all to China. Check out what China did this weekend:

http://www.economist.com/blogs/econo...st-explains-11

This could not be any worse.

crockett 05-16-2017 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21772234)
I understand this fully. However, the President - any President - shouldn't be randomly handing over classified information to our adversaries without any thought or discussion.

The proper way to do this is before a meeting to sit down with his staff, including the intelligence agencies, to discuss what they plan on saying, what they plan on offering, and what NOT to say. This is exactly why it has become an issue - There was no planning, no discussion, no meeting, zero preparation, and Trump just tossed this out there without any comprehension of the repercussions.

The repercussions here are so serious that Trump's staff passed this back down to the intelligence community.

This is EXACTLY the problem with Trump. He has zero experience in these matters, doesn't begin to understand how these things work, does zero preparation, and doesn't trust the people who work for him. He has no understand of how much damage a single statement, action, or phone call can do.

One of the complaints most Presidents have about being President is the amount of reading material they have to study. They work a ten hour day, and then have hours of reading to prepare them for the next day. Trump isn't doing this. He doesn't like to read, and doesn't prepare.

There is no planning on anything, and no thought to the consequences. He fired the FBI director with zero thought to the fall out. He didn't even properly prepare his own staff on how to handle questions.

Trump is clearly unqualified to President.

Nothing is being accomplished, and the White House is going from one disaster to another.

What little he is doing is only bad for us. For example, Trump killed the TPP agreement and just handed it all to China. Check out what China did this weekend:

http://www.economist.com/blogs/econo...st-explains-11

This could not be any worse.

Smart people understood all this would happen if Trump were elected and now that it's happening, we still have to explain to the dum dums why it's a bad thiing....and they still can't comprehend it.

Axeman 05-16-2017 02:13 PM

While I am pissed that Trump shared this info with the Russians at all. I am even more pissed that the media has now pretty much told the whole world what the info was about, and even the source country of that info. Both absolutely wrong to do.

TampaToker 05-16-2017 02:16 PM

Just got home didn't get to see what he supposedly leaked. Can someone tell me what he exactly leaked?

beerptrol 05-16-2017 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Axeman (Post 21772252)
While I am pissed that Trump shared this info with the Russians at all. I am even more pissed that the media has now pretty much told the whole world what the info was about, and even the source country of that info. Both absolutely wrong to do.

Thank Trump. Once he spewed out that info to the Russians it became declassified. And as I understand it the media are leaving out certain info that is very specific

Axeman 05-16-2017 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 21772261)
Thank Trump. Once he spewed out that info to the Russians it became declassified. And as I understand it the media are leaving out certain info that is very specific

They are leaving out the city so far. Just lots of hinting around it.

Sarn 05-16-2017 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 21772117)
Yeah, I mean that would be such a master plan to make every allie we have understand that can't trust Trump with their intel.. Sooo much master plan!
No, he's just that stupid..

He sends a signal to the allies that he will not solve their problems and he is only interested in the USA. Allies used USA before, now he want more money from they and to show who is Boss here :1orglaugh. Or drop them.
https://rus.rt.com/russian/images/20...632d8b4571.JPG

IMHO as i see it.

And he want the "liberals" to grow up)) And ceased to be capricious.
http://assets.thepoliticalinsider.co...xMUoAA5qQd.jpg
http://mamsila.ru/files/post/66/cover.jpg?m=1478687586
Stupid guy not will win in US presidential race.

MaDalton 05-16-2017 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 21771259)
Well your first sentence is accurate. Trump was under surveillance for years. Still waiting for any evidence of criminal wrongdoing.................... LOL

You do realize how funny this sounds in regards to how Hilary was treated over the recent years, right?

Nah, you probably don't....

Rochard 05-16-2017 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 21772246)
Smart people understood all this would happen if Drumpf were elected and now that it's happening, we still have to explain to the dum dums why it's a bad thiing....and they still can't comprehend it.

It's stunning. Trump hasn't paid any attention to world politics or how diplomacy works. A simple thing like the "One China" policy is completely unknown to him.

Now he has Tillerson advising him. He doesn't have a clue either. I'm sure he is very smart, but he understands oil. Not diplomacy.

These people have no idea what they are doing.

mineistaken 05-16-2017 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21769705)
Trump doesn't understand how diplomacy works at any level. He proved this on his very first phone call with with Taiwan - something any high school kid can understand.

You are right. Every high school kind understands how diplomacy works better than Trump.

Jesus fucking Christ, these statements... :helpme:error

Bladewire 05-16-2017 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 21772423)
You do realize how funny this sounds in regards to how Hilary was treated over the recent years, right?

Nah, you probably don't....

Trump just paid $25,000,000 to end a federal class action consumer fraud case that he PERSONALLY was liable for, not his business.

And his supporters don't see him as corrupt :disgust

Rochard 05-16-2017 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 21772543)
You are right. Every high school kind understands how diplomacy works better than Drumpf.

Jesus fucking Christ, these statements... :helpme:error

My kid is a junior in high school. She knows about the "One China" policy.


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