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Triple 6 04-20-2003 05:15 PM

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Originally posted by [Labret]


Why do you crave my attention so much?

Crave attention? Im not you, fool.

I thought you would have ditched your wet matches by now to go get a lighter? Keep on reaching.

[Labret] 04-20-2003 05:15 PM

"Evil" and "insane" are relative.

gothweb 04-20-2003 05:16 PM

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Originally posted by Equinox
I think Labret picked Hitler because it's his birthday... :2 cents:
All of those other people, and in fact every genius in history, has a birthday. Where is he on those days?

X37375787 04-20-2003 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by quiet


ya think?


No Shit Sherlock!

[Labret] 04-20-2003 05:18 PM

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Originally posted by Triple 6


Crave attention? Im not you, fool.

I thought you would have ditched your wet matches by now to go get a lighter? Keep on reaching.

Uhm, you are the one concerned with who I am. I dont understand. Enlighten me. Please. You still crying over the "your mouth begs for cock" thread? Why do you care? Why are you thinking about me?

X37375787 04-20-2003 05:18 PM

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Originally posted by gothweb


All of those other people, and in fact every genius in history, has a birthday. Where is he on those days?



The fact that millions of his followers still celebrate his birthday. Tomorrow I see the German newspapers filled with riots between right-wing neo-nazis and the police forces...

that is exactly what makes his birthday 'special'.

nofx 04-20-2003 05:18 PM

hitler was a homosexual :2 cents:
http://www.equality.org.za/news/2001/10/10hitler.htm
http://www.boloji.com/outlook/020.htm

Jakke PNG 04-20-2003 05:19 PM

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Originally posted by [Labret]
"Evil" and "insane" are relative.
Isn't pretty much everything?

[Labret] 04-20-2003 05:20 PM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather


Isn't pretty much everything?

Yes, but that was before Punkworld shot down my rants about cultural relativism. Now I try to see the world in a more black and white manner. its hard as I cant fit my head all the way up my ass, just half.

[Labret] 04-20-2003 05:22 PM

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Originally posted by gothweb


All of those other people, and in fact every genius in history, has a birthday. Where is he on those days?

Ill consult my "365 Days of Evil Genius Birthdays" calendar from now on.

cherrylula 04-20-2003 05:26 PM

I would totally get one of those if they were for sale.

fnet 04-20-2003 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by [Labret]

its hard as I cant fit my head all the way up my ass, just half.

time to shave it again

Triple 6 04-20-2003 05:34 PM

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Originally posted by [Labret]


Uhm, you are the one concerned with who I am. I dont understand. Enlighten me. Please.




Do you see me making attention hungry threads that I *know* will get a rise out of people? No.

Are you that fucking stupid to not see the effects of posting the dumb shit that you do - that people will call you out for what you are? Of course you knew that, so stop bitching about it like a fucking crybaby. From reading various posts you have wrote, I concluded you are an ignorant redneck , and now 'nazi-loving', faggot. Dont think just because I make a characterization of you from what you write here , I 'crave' your attention. Get real.


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You still crying over the "your mouth begs for cock" thread? Why do you care? Why are you thinking about me?
Why would you think that? You actually think I give a shit about that? I post a pic of my new GFY shirt, and you say that. So what? Why should I be concerned with that still? I'm not. Are you? I mean, are you still upset that I declined your offer? Then what is it?

Keep reaching. And hurry. Your entertainment value in this thread is wearing thin.

::YAWN::

gothweb 04-20-2003 05:34 PM

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Originally posted by [Labret]
"Evil" and "insane" are relative.
Those two terms may well be relative, or more importantly subjective. I can certainly entertain the possibility... and if that is the case, then I can simply ask you...

Do *you* think that Hitler was evil?

[Labret] 04-20-2003 05:39 PM

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Originally posted by gothweb


Those two terms may well be relative, or more importantly subjective. I can certainly entertain the possibility... and if that is the case, then I can simply ask you...

Do *you* think that Hitler was evil?

Yes. I can see how he could be seen as "evil".

But it does not negate his accomplishments. And by "accomplishments" dont do be a jerkoff and focus on the final solution. Im talking about everything.

Everything from the way he fused mythology and the occult to make his propaganda so powerful, to the technology and science that flourished under his leadership.

Yeah, he was evil... but what he transformed that nation into in such a short amount of time goes unrivaled.

Now tell me how that makes me a nazi. I also admire Muhammad and Nero. Does that make me a maniacal christian hating nazi muslim?

I dont understand how you people function.

X37375787 04-20-2003 05:42 PM

Hitler was truely a genius, denying it would be as much of a crime as denying the Holocaust. Just a quick outlook for those who don't know shit about him.

After being a WWI vet, war had defined his personality. You'd never ever seen his wear a uniform with more than his iron cross, corporal status. 1923, he's leader of the NSDAP, he gets kicked in jail for trying to throw over the Weimar republic... writes 'Mein Kampf' while being in jail. Very interesting and truely shows how twisted his beliefs were that he based his actions on. I recommend to read it.

'Lebensraum' and 'Blut und Boden'; expansion of the 3rd Reich was his primary objective. He hated the Jews anyway, Bolshevism was a Jewsih conspiracy anyway, so he believed. Soil was another aspect of his doing.

1930's... incresed unimployment and inflation ... by 1933 6 Mio. unemployed (30%). He blames the Jews for the economic failure... increased anto-semitism. Blam! 1933 Hitler becomes German Chancellor, after Hinderburg's death in August 34 he declares himself the Führer.

Note that by 1934 the unemployment rate in Germany had decreased to virtually 0%. By 1935 the Saarland rejoins Germany, 1936 the Germany marches into the Rheinland, by 1938 Austria is annexed.

1938 Times Man of the Year. That's right. Only a fucking blind man could not admit that Hitler was a great lead figure and a genius that understood to bump Germany back to a World Power, both economically and militarily. Hell, Germany pretty much had gotten beaten down with a steel rod in Article 231 of 1919.

Hitler gave Germany the Autobahn,and an economy that was stable and growing.

The fact that his anti-semitic actions and the Holocaust were plain wrong is not a part of this discussion.
Just recently I read about the Wannsee Conference of 43 (I believe) - hearing about it made me wanna puke my guts out.

Triple 6 04-20-2003 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by [Labret]


Yes.

But it does not negate his accomplishments. And by "accomplishments" dont do be a jerkoff and focus on the final solution. Im talking about everything.

Everything from the way he fused mythology and the occult to make his propaganda so powerful, to the technology and science that flourished under his leadership.

Yeah, he was evil... but what he tranformed that nation into in such a short amount of time goes unrivaled.

Cult mentality. So what. Nothing special about brainwashing the masses - Hitler was not the first nor the last. If you go unchecked, you can do what Hitler did, or more. Big fucking deal.

::yawn::

[Labret] 04-20-2003 05:44 PM

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Originally posted by Triple 6


you can do what Hitler did, or more. Big fucking deal.

::yawn::

If I do, you will be one of the first to the ovens.

Fletch XXX 04-20-2003 05:45 PM

<a href=http://www.fletchxxx.com/mp3s/snakesofchrist.mp3>never sell evil for lies</a>

:glugglug

Squishy 04-20-2003 05:46 PM

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Originally posted by [Labret]


If I do, you will be one of the first to the ovens.

Lampshade time! Lampshade time!

Joe Sixpack 04-20-2003 05:46 PM

Ein Hundert! :321GFY

gothweb 04-20-2003 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by [Labret]

Now tell me how that makes me a nazi. I also admire Muhammad and Nero. Does that make me a maniacal christian hating nazi muslim?

I dont understand how you people function.

I didn't call you a Nazi. I just don't agree with your decision to glorify an evil person. In doing so, you glorify evil itself, even if you intend otherwise.

Fletch XXX 04-20-2003 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by gothweb

In doing so, you glorify evil itself, even if you intend otherwise.

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
<a href=http://www.fletchxxx.com/mp3s/snakesofchrist.mp3>never sell evil for lies</a>

:glugglug

fixed link.

:glugglug

Triple 6 04-20-2003 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by Equinox


The fact that his anti-semitic actions and the Holocaust were plain wrong is not a part of this discussion.

WTF? You think you can just talk about Hitler as being so great and all without hearing about the holocaust, etc? I dont give a FUCK how great he was, his IQ, what he did for his nation in what amount of time, blah blah blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... the holocaust will ALWAYS be a part of the 'discussion' when you speak of Hitler.

Joe Sixpack 04-20-2003 05:50 PM

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Originally posted by gothweb


I didn't call you a Nazi. I just don't agree with your decision to glorify an evil person. In doing so, you glorify evil itself, even if you intend otherwise.

It is possible to admire an evil person while not condoning their evil deeds.

Nobody is all evil just as nobody is all good.

gothweb 04-20-2003 05:50 PM

If evil is relative, then it boils down to this: Saying something is evil is disagreeing with the justifiability of doing it. It is irrational and inconsistent to advocate evil.

X37375787 04-20-2003 05:50 PM

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Originally posted by gothweb


Do *you* think that Hitler was evil?


Hitler was driven by his beliefs, just like the muslim terrorist is driven to flight a fucking airplane into a building.

Evil? What is the definition of evil? Someone enlighten me. Evil is relative. Evil is what humans define it to be. There is always two sides to each coin, some think it was the right thing to do, other don't.

Hitler was emotional and determined. And he managed to motivate millions of others to follow his plan.

What I do not understand is how he could get his followers to believe that Jews were scum that deserved to be thrown in a ghetto, later gasses and burned to ashes. Mind blowing and shocking.

Triple 6 04-20-2003 05:51 PM

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Originally posted by [Labret]


If I do, you will be one of the first to the ovens.

oooooooooooooooooo! Trying to cook?

Your pilot light is out, fool.

Keep on reaching!!!!!



:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

cherrylula 04-20-2003 05:51 PM

Saddam's birthday bash kicks off in a week or so. I bet that's one hell of a party.

TDF 04-20-2003 05:52 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX


fixed link.

:glugglug


rock on...danzig

Honeyslut 04-20-2003 05:52 PM

Rednecks don't have girlfriends that look like Caroline.

Fletch XXX 04-20-2003 05:52 PM

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Originally posted by toodamnfli



rock on...whos the band?

the almighty Glenn Danzig.

just another Evil German.

except I know for a FACT he prefers Black and Asian girls.

;)

[Labret] 04-20-2003 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by gothweb


I didn't call you a Nazi. I just don't agree with your decision to glorify an evil person. In doing so, you glorify evil itself, even if you intend otherwise.

Correct me if I am wrong, but isnt goth all about embracing the subtle, or maybe not so subtle, beauty inherent in things of an "evil" nature?

So are you not accusing me of what your life revolves around? That being glorifying an aspect of evil you find appealing? Which would be glorifying evil.

TDF 04-20-2003 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX


the almight Danzig.

just another Evil German.

;)


good band...for a german:Graucho

Fletch XXX 04-20-2003 05:54 PM

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Originally posted by toodamnfli



good band...for a german:Graucho

he lives up the road in Los Feliz. Not sure how often if at all he goes to Germany hahaha

;)

gothweb 04-20-2003 05:59 PM

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Originally posted by [Labret]


Correct me if I am wrong, but isnt goth all about embracing the subtle, or maybe not so subtle, beauty inherent in things of an "evil" nature?

So are you not accusing me of what your life revolves around? That being glorifying an aspect of evil you find appealing? Which would be glorifying evil.

The easy answer for me here would be just to take the opening and say "You are wrong." I think I can go a little farther...

Even those who wish to glorify what other people call "evil" do not, themselves, advocate that which they feel is evil. "Evil", if it is relative, means "the stuff I think people shouldn't do".

It just doesn't make sense to say "I should do what I shouldn't do."

Of course, if Evil isn't relative like that, then it is absolute. In that case, we each have our own opinion but only some of us are right. In that case, when we say evil, we mean "the thing I am guessing is actually absolutely evil".

nofx 04-20-2003 06:00 PM

danzig - mother :thumbsup

fnet 04-20-2003 06:04 PM

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Originally posted by Equinox
Hitler was truely a genius
(...)
1938 Times Man of the Year.
(...)
Hitler gave Germany the Autobahn
(...)
guts out.

Ah this whole genius thing. As you may have guessed there are more than a few genii in the world that make wondrous things possible.

The idea that a single individual could be responsible for all of it is hero worship.

Edison had over 1,000 patents; his muckers had none- until they left him. Not smarter than any of them. He was just a fuckin' name. *Many* scientific geniuses of fair conscience and free spirit fled Hitler and the Reich.

Individuals can deviate. Nazis can't; they ape and follow orders; they implement a program; they minimize invention, that organic peculiarity.

As we move from the industrial / machine age into the information age, great advances are born of individuals, or teams that could not function efficiently within nationalism.

The genius of hitler is an outgrowth of a particular age of technology.

X37375787 04-20-2003 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by fnet


Ah this whole genius thing. As you may have guessed there are more than a few genii in the world that make wondrous things possible.

The idea that a single individual could be responsible for all of it is hero worship.

Edison had over 1,000 patents; his muckers had none- until they left him. Not smarter than any of them. He was just a fuckin' name. *Many* scientific geniuses of fair conscience and free spirit fled Hitler and the Reich.

Individuals can deviate. Nazis can't; they ape and follow orders; they implement a program; they minimize invention, that organic peculiarity.

As we move from the industrial / machine age into the information age, great advances are born of individuals, or teams that could not function efficiently within nationalism.

The genius of hitler is an outgrowth of a particular age of technology.


That is true. That's why W. von Braun and his crew willingly left post-war Germany to continue their great doings for the opposition. Fucking sellouts.

Fletch XXX 04-20-2003 06:10 PM

the most simple definition of evil is:

'Characterized by anger.'

anger keeps me focused.


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