Originally Posted by kane (Post 21834319)

There is a difference. People in ISIS are bottle fed hatred of the West from a very young age. They are raised to believe we are evil and out to destroy them and they are denied access to things that says otherwise. They are also raised to believe that God loves them and wants them to kill us. They have been brainwashed. The same with the Nazis. Leaders can scare large amounts of people into doing shitty things to other people but none of that has anything to do with what this guy did. This guy was a crazy person who decided he was going to act out violently. There are plenty of people out there who hate Trump (or in the past have hated whoever was President) and they didn't act out violently because they aren't crazy people.

What happened today, as I said before, is not a policy or political problem, it is a mental health problem.

Originally Posted by kane (Post 21833749)

This thread is a perfect example of why the political system in this country is so broken. Liberals are blaming hateful GOP policies and gun issues. Conservatives are blaming the liberal media and so on and so on and so on.

There is one person to blame. The guy who did the shooting. He was a crazy person who decided he was going to kill some people then take his own life. That's it. He should have sought mental help, but instead, he sought violence. There is nobody else to blame.

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 21833773)

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 21834340)

Not trying to argue or take a political side... but i'd like to say that generally, people really misunderstand how incredibly easy it is to mobilize a society to wipe out another.

The blue eye/brown eye experiment by a school teacher named Jane Elliot offered an incredible look into just how easy it is to turn kids on each other to the point of hatred and violence and how very little it takes (its in our genes)... and then how easy it is to completely turn it around the other way.

A Class Divided | FRONTLINE | PBS

The Robbers Cave Experiment also showed how easy it is to do this when there is the need to compete for a scarce resource such as a baseball field to play on... no matter how seemingly insignificant that resource is.

https://www.simplypsychology.org/robbers-cave.html

Modern brain science offers even more scary views into how we organize into in-groups and out-groups and how very little it takes to push us to violence against the other. Nazis didn't turn on humanity or turn Germans against Jews and others because of a lunatic preaching hate... its far easier than that. It's just a simple process.

It was a simple process that they followed to create an in-group and out-group, then creating identifying markings for each, then distinguish them from each other ways, then vilify the other etc. etc. until you get to a point that killing seems necessary and becomes easy. W Hat i mean to say is that its not as simple as a crazy person screaming "these guys must die". Its actually much much easier than that and the process will often go unnoticed until its too late.

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 21834184)

Good, what will you say if he finds nothing?

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 21834340)

Not trying to argue or take a political side... but i'd like to say that generally, people really misunderstand how incredibly easy it is to mobilize a society to wipe out another.

The blue eye/brown eye experiment by a school teacher named Jane Elliot offered an incredible look into just how easy it is to turn kids on each other to the point of hatred and violence and how very little it takes (its in our genes)... and then how easy it is to completely turn it around the other way.

A Class Divided | FRONTLINE | PBS

The Robbers Cave Experiment also showed how easy it is to do this when there is the need to compete for a scarce resource such as a baseball field to play on... no matter how seemingly insignificant that resource is.

https://www.simplypsychology.org/robbers-cave.html

Modern brain science offers even more scary views into how we organize into in-groups and out-groups and how very little it takes to push us to violence against the other. Nazis didn't turn on humanity or turn Germans against Jews and others because of a lunatic preaching hate... its far easier than that. It's just a simple process.

It was a simple process that they followed to create an in-group and out-group, then creating identifying markings for each, then distinguish them from each other ways, then vilify the other etc. etc. until you get to a point that killing seems necessary and becomes easy. W Hat i mean to say is that its not as simple as a crazy person screaming "these guys must die". Its actually much much easier than that and the process will often go unnoticed until its too late.

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 21834055)

Bladewire- I believe he's saying that you post false information, then ignore actual facts when presented and scream fake nic. Your liberal bias is showing. You know there's no evidence of Trump wrongdoing, yet still make wild claims.

Your news sources are misleading you.

:2 cents:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 21834481)

Senator Rand Paul
✔
@RandPaul

.@Judgenap: Why do we have a Second Amendment? It's not to shoot deer. It's to shoot at the government when it becomes tyrannical!
12:48 PM - 23 Jun 2016

https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/...-government%2F

Hey look Rand Paul supported this shooting..

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 21833872)

When democrats and the libtard media talk about using this as an opportunity for the two parties to come together, what they are talking about is gun control.

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 21833989)

Though the very obvious logical fallacy you've presented flies right over your head.. i'll help you in breaking it down (largely for my own amusement)

1) I post a fact... not only a fact, but something discussed at length in Dr Robert Hares book "Without Conscience" and other published studies - who is the creator of the Hare Test which Barry referenced... and something relevant to crime and sentencing for someone who clearly has not only a malfunctioning brain, resulting in abnormal behaviors, but where those same traits fade with age. Meaning the 50 year old is not the same person as the 20 year old who committed the crime, nor does he share the same neurological impairments which lead to the crime being committed.

2) You, a noted liar who literally seems incapable of being honest then demands proof, though it has nothing at all to do with you and which is a cringe-worthy fact for anyone reading this being that you post lies all day long here.

3) You then, based on absolutely nothing at all, proclaim my statement to be a lie.. which is in itself a lie for which you have no proof. Proof of course which you demand of others, but do not produce yourself nor do you hold yourself to that standard.

Interestingly, the ease with which you lie and the incredibly sloppy manner in which you do it are fully consistent with a psychopathic brain by the way.

In fact, you seem incapable of telling the truth and like most psychopaths, you lie with complete ease and then quickly gloss over the fact that you get caught lying time and time again and quickly move on.

Again, consistent with a psychopathic brain, being caught NEVER causes you to modify your behavior as you simply dismiss it and move on to the next lie.

Put this stuff together with your VERY odd habit of continually posting a handicapped guy in response to threads or posting personal pics and personal info of people you don't like, pride yourself on being disruptive when someones saying something you don't like, randomly defending yourself by dismissing established members as "fake nics" (a disregard for rules, decorum or even common decency, much less an ability to even debate an issue,... all coupled with a complete and total lack of self awareness) seems to indicate that you have some very deep rooted psychological issues.

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21834346)

Thrown under the bus and bitter -- there you have it ...

The most dangerous man is the man with nothing to lose -- always.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...81c_story.html

Originally Posted by AndyA (Post 21832666)

I wonder if these assholes will think twice on voting for AR-15 control

How does that bullet feel asshole? and scalice is the biggest racist cunt


couldn't have happened to a better guy

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 21836023)

Steve Scalise.....it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. Maybe the next nutjob will at least have some shooting experience.

really. Fuck Steve Scalise. This isn't trolling. The guy has been a known rotten, prick douchebag for years.

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 21834079)

Fucking bingo.

You think I am going to complain if I lose something I don't want?

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21836032)

A rotten to the core asshole. He's the whip, the guy who forces people to stay in line and threatens them to vote against their will or be midterms etc. The wheeler and dealer of congress.

Shot in the hip with internal organ damage. What's in your hip? Prostate, bladder, cock, balls and rectum.