Originally Posted by brandonstills (Post 21850840)

I moved to mainstream programming as well for my full time job. Pays way better. I still do projects here and there though. Seems like models are increasingly becoming independent. They are using cam and clip sites and have no need of producers.

It's sad the state of technology in the adult industry though. It feels like the dark ages compared to mainstream programming.

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21850084)

that´s why try to do things with as less people as possible :-)

i would not be a businessman if i would be ever totally satisfied but when i´ve started trafficfabrik 5 years ago i had a 5 years plan and i was ending up every year FAR over the plan - so it can not be that wrong.

the biggest problem for me is to find the RIGHT people because i am doing this with a vision and with my heart and with more than 20 years experience in nearly everything what you can do in our biz. so in one thing paul is right when he says i am a one-man band - but i am a one-man-band in the important parts of my biz what i do not let touch anyone else.



paul i am long enough in that business to know that it is a nogo to bring partners or informations about them into such a discussion. not even our advertisers knaow exactly where theirs ads are shown. and that they are still here and becomming more and more proves, that this is working (what you will doubt also).



i told you many times that i am professional in that. i studied marketing and i live since 40 years from my knowledge much better than the most people do.



i was aware that when I started it. that´s why i do not have to be afraid of competition.
i have never copied things - i always did them my very own way.

btw. i am NOT a one-man-band as you think. I am only a one man band in the important
things. I do have people working with me in programming, accounting, server administration and that stuff and I also have a bunch of own webmasters employed who are building websites and increasing the traffic. i have also people working in our own media-buyers-team I have also special programmers for databases and 2 mathematicians only for algorythm perfection all these people get their works and visions from me directly. but i do not have a single sales guy or publishers scout.



i know - all want to buy good traffic. there is no limit in the demand of that.
that´s why i do not need to look for byers - I have them already and if i tell them i can send them twice as much tomorrow they will buy it and send me roses.

you always think business is done the way you did it and 99% of the rest is doing it. but you can´t compare me with that. i was always different and unique and that´s why i never had a problem to make money and as long my head is on my neck i will never have this problem.

Originally Posted by SixNein (Post 21852541)

You kind of remind me of meat. What happened to him anyway? I noticed hahahahahahaha was down.

Originally Posted by celandina (Post 21850495)

Here is your uniform...( well except #4)

https://images.halloweencostumes.com...ze-costume.jpg

Good luck....

Originally Posted by SixNein (Post 21852538)

Full disclosure: I don't know that I would ever enter the adult business again. I got out of it for good reasons, and it wasn't about money. There was some cool people I knew back from the day. Greenguy, Dr. Bill, Watchia, meat, marc, and so many others. But 2257 sealed the deal for me.

I don't blame those girls for going into business for themselves, and I have the utmost respect for david lace for getting out of the business too. He's apparently rocking the model scene now... good for him. (He was my main content provider).

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 21850009)

Well let's say I know for a fact that one of them is certainly not bullshitting.

Besides there's logical fallacy in your argumentation - do you believe that if you get a thousand visitors to your site daily there's no new customers? Well that would be a wild assumption wouldnt It?

And how about a repeating customer that's presented a new product? Is this a new point of sale?

So instead of wild assumptions and ad hominem non sense you may want to consider the fact that the rest of the world won't stop waiting for the famous P. MARKHAM'S badge of approval.

Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 21850081)

Dear oh dear Paul.

Still telling peeps that have achieved so much more than you ever did how stoopid they are ?

The failed pornograher dishing out advice like he is some kind of business guru ???

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I suppose you will be waxing lyrical of the terrible scourge of migration next.

:thumbsup

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21850084)

paul i am long enough in that business to know that it is a nogo to bring partners or informations about them into such a discussion. not even our advertisers knaow exactly where theirs ads are shown. and that they are still here and becomming more and more proves, that this is working (what you will doubt also).

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21852817)

Or you can't show where mainstream sells on porn sites.

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21852937)

i can but i will not do it -if you don´t believe my word it is senseless to discuss that with you.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21853021)

The same as with your political posts, your business posts make no sense.

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21853231)

or it means that we live in a world what you do not understand anymore.

i remember my mother in her last years - she saw her own mother in the garden sitting on a tree and it did not make sense to explain her that
there is nobody on this tree.

so see it as a respect to your age from my side that i just let you in your phantasy world
and don´t loose my time with telling you things what are far beyond your horizon.

Originally Posted by SixNein (Post 21852538)

Full disclosure: I don't know that I would ever enter the adult business again. I got out of it for good reasons, ... But 2257 sealed the deal for me. ...

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21854137)

I reply with logic and you come back with insults. To hide your inability to prove your point.

Where are the mainstream ads on porn sites?

Where are your customers with porn and mainstream business, getting mainstream traffic from?

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21858502)

give up paul - i will not post links

just accept that things what are not from your mind can also work. many of them work even better - because if not you would be now an old millionaire and would not have to suffer in jealousy on people who are doing biz in a smarter way.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21858634)

You can't post links.

Where are the mainstream ads on porn sites?

Where are your customers with porn and mainstream business, getting mainstream traffic from?