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SixNein 06-24-2017 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonstills (Post 21850840)
I moved to mainstream programming as well for my full time job. Pays way better. I still do projects here and there though. Seems like models are increasingly becoming independent. They are using cam and clip sites and have no need of producers.

It's sad the state of technology in the adult industry though. It feels like the dark ages compared to mainstream programming.

Full disclosure: I don't know that I would ever enter the adult business again. I got out of it for good reasons, and it wasn't about money. There was some cool people I knew back from the day. Greenguy, Dr. Bill, Watchia, meat, marc, and so many others. But 2257 sealed the deal for me.

I don't blame those girls for going into business for themselves, and I have the utmost respect for david lace for getting out of the business too. He's apparently rocking the model scene now... good for him. (He was my main content provider).

SixNein 06-24-2017 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21850084)
thatīs why try to do things with as less people as possible :-)

i would not be a businessman if i would be ever totally satisfied but when iīve started trafficfabrik 5 years ago i had a 5 years plan and i was ending up every year FAR over the plan - so it can not be that wrong.

the biggest problem for me is to find the RIGHT people because i am doing this with a vision and with my heart and with more than 20 years experience in nearly everything what you can do in our biz. so in one thing paul is right when he says i am a one-man band - but i am a one-man-band in the important parts of my biz what i do not let touch anyone else.



paul i am long enough in that business to know that it is a nogo to bring partners or informations about them into such a discussion. not even our advertisers knaow exactly where theirs ads are shown. and that they are still here and becomming more and more proves, that this is working (what you will doubt also).



i told you many times that i am professional in that. i studied marketing and i live since 40 years from my knowledge much better than the most people do.



i was aware that when I started it. thatīs why i do not have to be afraid of competition.
i have never copied things - i always did them my very own way.

btw. i am NOT a one-man-band as you think. I am only a one man band in the important
things. I do have people working with me in programming, accounting, server administration and that stuff and I also have a bunch of own webmasters employed who are building websites and increasing the traffic. i have also people working in our own media-buyers-team I have also special programmers for databases and 2 mathematicians only for algorythm perfection all these people get their works and visions from me directly. but i do not have a single sales guy or publishers scout.



i know - all want to buy good traffic. there is no limit in the demand of that.
thatīs why i do not need to look for byers - I have them already and if i tell them i can send them twice as much tomorrow they will buy it and send me roses.

you always think business is done the way you did it and 99% of the rest is doing it. but you canīt compare me with that. i was always different and unique and thatīs why i never had a problem to make money and as long my head is on my neck i will never have this problem.

You kind of remind me of meat. What happened to him anyway? I noticed hahahahahahaha was down.

SixNein 06-24-2017 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SixNein (Post 21852541)
You kind of remind me of meat. What happened to him anyway? I noticed hahahahahahaha was down.

JFK you have that as a filter? Why all the hate on meat?

SixNein 06-24-2017 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by celandina (Post 21850495)
Here is your uniform...( well except #4)

https://images.halloweencostumes.com...ze-costume.jpg

Good luck....

He should be standing against a pole smoking a cig.

#epicfail.

I had a logo with a wolf doing that once.

SixNein 06-24-2017 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SixNein (Post 21852538)
Full disclosure: I don't know that I would ever enter the adult business again. I got out of it for good reasons, and it wasn't about money. There was some cool people I knew back from the day. Greenguy, Dr. Bill, Watchia, meat, marc, and so many others. But 2257 sealed the deal for me.

I don't blame those girls for going into business for themselves, and I have the utmost respect for david lace for getting out of the business too. He's apparently rocking the model scene now... good for him. (He was my main content provider).

btw does any of those guys ever post?

Spunky 06-24-2017 11:12 PM

The big will get bigger and the little man falls

Paul Markham 06-25-2017 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 21850009)
Well let's say I know for a fact that one of them is certainly not bullshitting.

Besides there's logical fallacy in your argumentation - do you believe that if you get a thousand visitors to your site daily there's no new customers? Well that would be a wild assumption wouldnt It?

And how about a repeating customer that's presented a new product? Is this a new point of sale?

So instead of wild assumptions and ad hominem non sense you may want to consider the fact that the rest of the world won't stop waiting for the famous P. MARKHAM'S badge of approval.

In porn 1-1,000 is becoming tougher and won't pay the bills.

Paul Markham 06-25-2017 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 21850081)
Dear oh dear Paul.

Still telling peeps that have achieved so much more than you ever did how stoopid they are ?

The failed pornograher dishing out advice like he is some kind of business guru ???

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I suppose you will be waxing lyrical of the terrible scourge of migration next.

:thumbsup

Point out where I was wrong.

Paul Markham 06-25-2017 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21850084)

paul i am long enough in that business to know that it is a nogo to bring partners or informations about them into such a discussion. not even our advertisers knaow exactly where theirs ads are shown. and that they are still here and becomming more and more proves, that this is working (what you will doubt also).

Or you can't show where mainstream sells on porn sites.



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i told you many times that i am professional in that. i studied marketing and i live since 40 years from my knowledge much better than the most people do.
Then you would know why you need to be looking for new clients. Maybe you know it as a different term so I will explain the principals. It safeguards against one of your customers going out of business, moving suppliers, changing tactics, etc. It's most certainly required if you want to move to 30% mainstream.


i was aware that when I started it. thatīs why i do not have to be afraid of competition.
i have never copied things - i always did them my very own way.

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btw. i am NOT a one-man-band as you think. I am only a one man band in the important
things. I do have people working with me in programming, accounting, server administration and that stuff and I also have a bunch of own webmasters employed who are building websites and increasing the traffic. i have also people working in our own media-buyers-team I have also special programmers for databases and 2 mathematicians only for algorythm perfection all these people get their works and visions from me directly. but i do not have a single sales guy or publishers scout.
So pay someone to design a better site.



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i know - all want to buy good traffic. there is no limit in the demand of that.
thatīs why i do not need to look for byers - I have them already and if i tell them i can send them twice as much tomorrow they will buy it and send me roses.

you always think business is done the way you did it and 99% of the rest is doing it. but you canīt compare me with that. i was always different and unique and thatīs why i never had a problem to make money and as long my head is on my neck i will never have this problem.
Are they going to buy mainstream traffic?

thommy 06-25-2017 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21852817)
Or you can't show where mainstream sells on porn sites.

i can but i will not do it -if you donīt believe my word it is senseless to discuss that with you.


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Then you would know why you need to be looking for new clients. Maybe you know it as a different term so I will explain the principals. It safeguards against one of your customers going out of business, moving suppliers, changing tactics, etc. It's most certainly required if you want to move to 30% mainstream.
paul donīt you understand? I HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH traffic buyers.
i could sell 10 times more if I would have it but it makes me more stress.

why do you care my wallet? I make in a morning the money you make in a month - I am really fine donīt worry.

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i was aware that when I started it. thatīs why i do not have to be afraid of competition.
i have never copied things - i always did them my very own way.
i do not complain it. it was good in the times you did it. now it is old fashioned. but thatīs how things are.

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So pay someone to design a better site.
again: for WHAT ?
for customers who canīt get enough traffic from me because it is already sold ?

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Are they going to buy mainstream traffic?
many of them also buy mainstream traffic. the world is not split anymore in adult and mainstream. that is passed already.
you did not realize that because you still live in a world what does not exist anymore.
and with you some of the other creatures what are crying the whole day instead moving their asses.

look around how international webmasters generating traffic. thatīs a joke. sending traffic from one to the next and wonder why they have signupquotes of 1:1000 with traffic what went through 50 domains in 10 minutes.

i do NOT talk about this kind of business - i just wondered why it went ok for so long time.

Paul Markham 06-25-2017 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21852937)
i can but i will not do it -if you donīt believe my word it is senseless to discuss that with you.

It's senseless to say you won't show something that's not a secret. If porn sites with mainstream adverts are common or even 20% of the traffic business, we would all know. There's only one reason not to show them. And everyone knows why you refuse to show them.

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paul donīt you understand? I HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH traffic buyers.
i could sell 10 times more if I would have it but it makes me more stress.

why do you care my wallet? I make in a morning the money you make in a month - I am really fine donīt worry.
Tomorrow that could all change. But the main reason for finding more customers for your better than anyone else's product is. To increase your prices. When a commodity is in short supply, raise the price.

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i do not complain it. it was good in the times you did it. now it is old fashioned. but thatīs how things are.
You just answered your own statement.

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again: for WHAT ?
for customers who canīt get enough traffic from me because it is already sold ?
So you can raise your prices and price your competition out of the market.


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many of them also buy mainstream traffic. the world is not split anymore in adult and mainstream. that is passed already.
Then switching them from porn to mainstream would be very simple and should have been done by now.


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you did not realize that because you still live in a world what does not exist anymore.
and with you some of the other creatures what are crying the whole day instead moving their asses.
So why is it so hard or a secret to not show us porn sites where mainstream products advertise?

I've been in business most of my life and the rules rarely changed even though the products and methods of selling them have. If you have 10 times the demand for a product of limited supply, raise the prices. If that product is bought, it allows you to out price your competition.

If a customer has two sides to their business, selling to both sides is something that should have been done a long time ago. And there no need to want to expand or move 30% to the other side. If you haven't done that yet, you're a lousy businessman. Because you're not already serving both sides of their business, someone else is and shifting them out and you in is tough.

The same as with your political posts, your business posts make no sense.

MatureKing 06-25-2017 09:42 AM

If sign ups will back. We won't lose them

thommy 06-25-2017 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21853021)
The same as with your political posts, your business posts make no sense.

or it means that we live in a world what you do not understand anymore.

i remember my mother in her last years - she saw her own mother in the garden sitting on a tree and it did not make sense to explain her that
there is nobody on this tree.

so see it as a respect to your age from my side that i just let you in your phantasy world
and donīt loose my time with telling you things what are far beyond your horizon.

Paul Markham 06-26-2017 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21853231)
or it means that we live in a world what you do not understand anymore.

i remember my mother in her last years - she saw her own mother in the garden sitting on a tree and it did not make sense to explain her that
there is nobody on this tree.

so see it as a respect to your age from my side that i just let you in your phantasy world
and donīt loose my time with telling you things what are far beyond your horizon.

I reply with logic and you come back with insults. To hide your inability to prove your point.

Where are the mainstream ads on porn sites?

Where are your customers with porn and mainstream business, getting mainstream traffic from?

Barry-xlovecam 06-26-2017 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SixNein (Post 21852538)
Full disclosure: I don't know that I would ever enter the adult business again. I got out of it for good reasons, ... But 2257 sealed the deal for me. ...

§2257 intimidated a lot of people out of the online adult industry -- that is what that law's intention was.

thommy 06-28-2017 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21854137)
I reply with logic and you come back with insults. To hide your inability to prove your point.

Where are the mainstream ads on porn sites?

Where are your customers with porn and mainstream business, getting mainstream traffic from?

give up paul - i will not post links

just accept that things what are not from your mind can also work. many of them work even better - because if not you would be now an old millionaire and would not have to suffer in jealousy on people who are doing biz in a smarter way.

Paul Markham 06-28-2017 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21858502)
give up paul - i will not post links

just accept that things what are not from your mind can also work. many of them work even better - because if not you would be now an old millionaire and would not have to suffer in jealousy on people who are doing biz in a smarter way.

You can't post links.

Where are the mainstream ads on porn sites?

Where are your customers with porn and mainstream business, getting mainstream traffic from?

thommy 06-28-2017 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21858634)
You can't post links.

Where are the mainstream ads on porn sites?

Where are your customers with porn and mainstream business, getting mainstream traffic from?

keep on dreaming !


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