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crockett 06-27-2017 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21857005)
Just saw this on television with CNN supervising producer John Bonefield admitting that CNN is doing the whole Russia/Trump story for ratings only and that there is no evidence of anything. You have to watch this video. This is one of the main men at CNN saying it from his own lips.
Come on guys...all political arguments and hatred aside...these guys at CNN are not journalists anymore and they are lying to the American people.
This JUST came out overnight. CNN is not talking about it at all on the air of course. But last night 3 of the "journalists" involved in the retracted story that I made this thread about were fired.
And CNN hasn't talked about that on the air either.
This is something that should open everyone's eyes to the truth:


Robbie you are such a fucking idiot. CNN is a news station, they didn't make up the Russia shit. You are perfect example of how stupid and gullible the right wing g has become..

You ignore the fact that the NSA, CIA and FBI all have been investigating the Russian hack. But oh no some guy says on a video that CNN made it all up for ratings and of course you accept that as fact...

Jesus you are a gullible moron.

Steve Rupe 06-27-2017 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21857005)
Just saw this on television with CNN supervising producer John Bonefield admitting that CNN is doing the whole Russia/Trump story for ratings only and that there is no evidence of anything. You have to watch this video. This is one of the main men at CNN saying it from his own lips.
Come on guys...all political arguments and hatred aside...these guys at CNN are not journalists anymore and they are lying to the American people.
This JUST came out overnight. CNN is not talking about it at all on the air of course. But last night 3 of the "journalists" involved in the retracted story that I made this thread about were fired.
And CNN hasn't talked about that on the air either.
This is something that should open everyone's eyes to the truth:


I am of the opinion that all "news" media's only interest is ratings/advertising dollars and not "news" per se. They present those stories they think will garner the best ratings and keep them in front of all other "news" as long as they continue to rank high in ratings and when the ratings drop below a certain point they will begin to push another story until they find one that brings in the ratings again. This is especially true with the 24/7 "news" outlets, more so than with other "news" media outlets.

As I have stated before I primarily get my news from Cspan, but of course from time to time monitor various other outlets to see what spin they are putting on events.

Grapesoda 06-27-2017 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21854584)
Just viewed your post crockett (I have you on ignore) to see if maybe you would make an intelligent response about CNN.

But nope, just more of your stupidity.

I'm glad I have you on ignore. You have become completely insane.

Also...I was eating my breakfast and flipping through the news channels (it was 7:30 a.m. here in Vegas when I posted that).
I do that every morning crockett. Just like my grandfather did, and my father did. And like I have done since I was a child.

I like watching the news.

I like staying informed of things. I never want to be an ignorant person like you are.

So I saw that story come up...went online to confirm it, and posted it here as clear vindication for what I have been saying since 2015 about CNN and it's lack of journalistic integrity with Trump.

Also, let me rain on your parade further: CNN just reported that the Supreme Court has lifted the travel ban partially and will hear the case later this year.

I suppose instead of discussing that issue...you will simply personally attack me for watching the news.
You are one seriously deranged individual crockett. You are so full of hatred and vitriol. It would behoove you to TRY and use some personal reflection and ask yourself why you are acting this way.

Robbie this is why I voted for trump, and possibly everyone else did as well

"I suppose instead of discussing that issue...you will simply personally attack me for watching the news.

You are one seriously deranged individual crockett. You are so full of hatred and vitriol."

who would vote for anything these guys want??

Acepimp 06-27-2017 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 21857047)
Robbie you are such a fucking idiot. CNN is a news station, they didn't make up the Russia shit. You are perfect example of how stupid and gullible the right wing g has become..

You ignore the fact that the NSA, CIA and FBI all have been investigating the Russian hack. But oh no some guy says on a video that CNN made it all up for ratings and of course you accept that as fact...

Jesus you are a gullible moron.

Hey Crockette, you're ignoring the Vault7 wikileaks release which proved our agencies can fake a cyber attack and make it look like the Russians or whoever. Also, the "investigation" you mentioned provided ZERO EVIDENCE. Did the DNC allow the FBI to look at their "hacked" servers?? NO! Because it would expose more democrat crimes. And where does CNN get their intel? The democrats..

Get some facts, Crockette, you seem like a gullible moron.
:2 cents:

:pimp

crockett 06-27-2017 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 21857074)
Robbie this is why I voted for trump, and possibly everyone else did as well

"I suppose instead of discussing that issue...you will simply personally attack me for watching the news.

You are one seriously deranged individual crockett. You are so full of hatred and vitriol."

who would vote for anything these guys want??

hatred and vitriol, no I'm just treating you guys how you treat others. You guys never like it when it gets turned around on you and you always play the victim.

I've sat here and watched years of ignorance and hate being spewed from your keyboards. Now I shovel your hate back at you, because now I don't give you any benefit of doubt, I just treat you like you have treated others and myself for years.

As for Robbie I troll him endlessly because he is a liar. He sat here for years telling us all we were biased and he was the only true non-bias person on GFY, blah, blahh blah.. He endlessly blamed Obama for everything and when we called him out on his nonsense he would try to turn it around and say we were biased.

Now look, we can all see the truth.. Robbie is obsessively brainwashed to the point I can't tell him apart from JoushaMo's non sense..

Don't whine that I now shovel your shit back at you. I gave you guys decent opportunity at debate for years and you just shoveled shit. Now I give it back to you..

PR_Glen 06-27-2017 11:19 AM

Robbie, every time you or anyone else, that holds any respect that is, call actual news agencies fake news you do damage to the entire industry. Fox, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, CBS... all are credible news outlets. Now, that doesn't mean that they aren't slanted in which way their stories lean. Most of those are very liberal biased, practically to a fault. However, they are the same news agencies that were reporting about clinton emails, about bill clinton impeachment, about gaffs from both bush's during their terms and about 9/11 when it happened and it's aftermath. They have not all of a sudden gone rogue and started reporting unsourced stories.

They are simply reporting stories that YOU do not like. Stories that YOU don't want to believe are true. Stories that YOU want to be made up. But the truth is that is not happening. Now they are reporting a lot of nonsense and non stories, no doubt. But none of it is fake... When you call it that it makes people with substantially lower intelligence look elsewhere for their news sources and when they do this they end up on the darkest parts of the internet who focus on driving up hatred (from both sides) and unsubstantiated conspiracies. Both can and have led to violence. This should not be our goal. Going to random blog sites is far far worse because they are accountable to nobody, just whatever gets the most views. There are never retractions. The mainstream media may get a bit nuts these days and even center around stories they shouldn't too much, but they are accountable at the end of the day and they are necessary to inform.

Acepimp 06-27-2017 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 21857413)
Robbie, every time you or anyone else, that holds any respect that is, call actual news agencies fake news you do damage to the entire industry. Fox, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, CBS... all are credible news outlets. Now, that doesn't mean that they aren't slanted in which way their stories lean. Most of those are very liberal biased, practically to a fault. However, they are the same news agencies that were reporting about clinton emails, about bill clinton impeachment, about gaffs from both bush's during their terms and about 9/11 when it happened and it's aftermath. They have not all of a sudden gone rogue and started reporting unsourced stories.

They are simply reporting stories that YOU do not like. Stories that YOU don't want to believe are true. Stories that YOU want to be made up. But the truth is that is not happening. Now they are reporting a lot of nonsense and non stories, no doubt. But none of it is fake... When you call it that it makes people with substantially lower intelligence look elsewhere for their news sources and when they do this they end up on the darkest parts of the internet who focus on driving up hatred (from both sides) and unsubstantiated conspiracies. Both can and have led to violence. This should not be our goal. Going to random blog sites is far far worse because they are accountable to nobody, just whatever gets the most views. There are never retractions. The mainstream media may get a bit nuts these days and even center around stories they shouldn't too much, but they are accountable at the end of the day and they are necessary to inform.

Hey buddy- CNN is FAKE NEWS.



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Bladewire 06-27-2017 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 21857074)
Robbie this is why I voted for trump, and possibly everyone else did as well

"I suppose instead of discussing that issue...you will simply personally attack me for watching the news.

You are one seriously deranged individual crockett. You are so full of hatred and vitriol."

who would vote for anything these guys want??

You must be high. Yes you're high. Just another hypocrite whiney little bitch :1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 21791488)
this is a PORNOGRAPHERS forum, not your 'oh my feelings and entitlements' support group lol!!!!

what a fucking tool!!!!


Robbie 06-27-2017 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 21857413)
. Fox, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, CBS... all are credible news outlets.

They are simply reporting stories that YOU do not like. Stories that YOU don't want to believe are true. Stories that YOU want to be made up. But the truth is that is not happening.

So when the head of the FBI testified before Congress and said that these news reports were "nonsense".
And when CNN reported in the first day of Trump's Presidency that he had removed the bust of MLK...which was quickly shown to be a lie.
And when CNN has to finally start retracting stories like the one I originally posted because they simply made it up with no facts.
And when you see video footage of a senior producer at CNN explaining that they are reporting "bullshit" for ratings...

You still think I'm wrong? Wow. What would it take to get you to open your eyes to this?
The media has an agenda. They are reporting rumors, falsehoods, unsubstantiated "unnamed sources", etc.

The very TOP executives of CNN have now issued a policy that NO story on Russia will be allowed until it is run past the two top executives of CNN so they can fact check their own people.

I get that you want to believe because you don't like Trump. But when the top brass of CNN don't even trust CNN...then maybe you need to rethink that.

Bladewire 06-27-2017 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21857752)
So when the head of the FBI testified before Congress and said that these news reports were "nonsense".
And when CNN reported in the first day of Trump's Presidency that he had removed the bust of MLK...which was quickly shown to be a lie.
And when CNN has to finally start retracting stories like the one I originally posted because they simply made it up with no facts.
And when you see video footage of a senior producer at CNN explaining that they are reporting "bullshit" for ratings...

You still think I'm wrong? Wow. What would it take to get you to open your eyes to this?
The media has an agenda. They are reporting rumors, falsehoods, unsubstantiated "unnamed sources", etc.

The very TOP executives of CNN have now issued a policy that NO story on Russia will be allowed until it is run past the two top executives of CNN so they can fact check their own people.

I get that you want to believe because you don't like Trump. But when the top brass of CNN don't even trust CNN...then maybe you need to rethink that.

Robbie thinks it's all a "conspiracy"

Robbie thinks all the Russia connections are nothing.

Robbie thinks Republicans being fired because of Russia, lying about Russia, and recusing themselves from Russian investigations, is nothing.

Robbie is an example of the perils of having an uninformed electorate.

Rochard 06-27-2017 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21857752)
So when the head of the FBI testified before Congress and said that these news reports were "nonsense".
And when CNN reported in the first day of Drumpf's Presidency that he had removed the bust of MLK...which was quickly shown to be a lie.
And when CNN has to finally start retracting stories like the one I originally posted because they simply made it up with no facts.
And when you see video footage of a senior producer at CNN explaining that they are reporting "bullshit" for ratings...

You still think I'm wrong? Wow. What would it take to get you to open your eyes to this?
The media has an agenda. They are reporting rumors, falsehoods, unsubstantiated "unnamed sources", etc.

The very TOP executives of CNN have now issued a policy that NO story on Russia will be allowed until it is run past the two top executives of CNN so they can fact check their own people.

I get that you want to believe because you don't like Trump. But when the top brass of CNN don't even trust CNN...then maybe you need to rethink that.

Robbie you are being silly. The bust story was just a silly little thing; Someone posted that the bust was missing and it got over blown. The retraction isn't fake news but instead good journalism; They saw something wrong and quickly took action to remove it. The video you are talking about is a low level employee quickly sharing his thoughts with someone that was annoying him; The video was made by Okeefe who has a long history of bullshit.

With that said, I do honestly believe the press is completely fucking with Trump. During the administration Trump attacked the press, calling it all "fake news". Trump thought once he was president he would be able to do whatever he wants. The press thinks Trump is ridiculous, and are taking advantage of his inexperience. Trump is so incompetent that it's easy.

The so called "travel ban" is a great example. If this was properly done no one would have noticed. All the Trump administration had to do was quietly create a committee to review the vetting process, and then quietly push through some changes. Instead Trump made a big deal about it as if he was protecting Americans. The press saw this and made a much bigger deal out of it than it should have been.

The entire Russian connection has also been so poorly handled that it's turned into an obstruction of justice investigation. The press is picking up these things and running with it. Trump and his team is so damn incompetent that they cannot control the press cycle. It's so bad that they are refusing to allow cameras in the press room.

Steve Rupe 06-27-2017 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21857752)
So when the head of the FBI testified before Congress and said that these news reports were "nonsense".
And when CNN reported in the first day of Trump's Presidency that he had removed the bust of MLK...which was quickly shown to be a lie.
And when CNN has to finally start retracting stories like the one I originally posted because they simply made it up with no facts.
And when you see video footage of a senior producer at CNN explaining that they are reporting "bullshit" for ratings...

You still think I'm wrong? Wow. What would it take to get you to open your eyes to this?
The media has an agenda. They are reporting rumors, falsehoods, unsubstantiated "unnamed sources", etc.

The very TOP executives of CNN have now issued a policy that NO story on Russia will be allowed until it is run past the two top executives of CNN so they can fact check their own people.

I get that you want to believe because you don't like Trump. But when the top brass of CNN don't even trust CNN...then maybe you need to rethink that.

What you are saying about CNN is applicable to all "news" media outlets, in my humble opinion. They all have an agenda and that is to make the most money possible and the accuracy of their reporting be damned.

CarlosTheGaucho 06-28-2017 01:37 AM

Fortunately, the twist from reporting to projecting also already reflects in the Public's trust in the mainstream media, that's constantly declining.

I've personally worked with perhaps 100 mainstream media outlets during my time with Big Sister, was lucky enough to get some good positive press, even if it was quite an edgy topic.
I would trust that a part of it was maybe that they found a sensible counterpart for an interview in me plus I was also careful about what to say so it can't be twisted easily.

But also experienced a couple examples of twisting and selectively picking the facts to fit one's agenda. If I dismiss a completely fake article by a certain British magazine, the other one that really did not act all that kosher was NY Times. They selectively picked quotations and information in order to put a negative bias in, and employed some projecting in their article.

On the other hand, it made us money - maybe 20 k worth in new mainstream extra sign ups. It generated a lot of interest, it's not like it would affect how the world works so who cares. Glad it was not a political issue though.

But yes, if you simply compare about how two news outlets select completely different facts and angle for reporting about the very same issue, there can be very little doubt about the institutionalized bias.

Also one of the reasons I practically quit reading any "news" - if there is any issue I need to educate myself on, then I look up and listen to or read the authentic (aka original) speeches, documents, or educate myself about the facts, mainly from actual books or non-political sources (which are rare).


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