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mineistaken 07-04-2017 05:20 PM

Fiddy western world invasion and final conquering proponents.

crazies 07-04-2017 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 21870481)
So... let me be the first to inject a bit of reason

First of all, no one is entitled to travel to any country. Anyone that travels knows this quite well. US Citizens get turned away at the Canadian border daily. So what? It's their right to do so and no one calls them fascists.

Second, for anyone who knows anything about international travel and travel to the USA, you know that it is 100% normal to not get a visa from a sketchy country regardless of the "reason" for travel. It is almost as hard from a westernized country - regardless of who is President.

Third, the US never gives a reason for visa denial... so any belief as to why they were denied is pure speculation, not fact. For all you know the people who were going with them were Al Queda or had terrorist ties. You have no clue. Absolutely no clue.

Lastly, the fact that you think America will look back and "be ashamed" at not allowing visas for citizens from one of the most terrorist ridden spots on the planet ... even before 9/11 and n modern history, harboring Al Queda and having been ran by the Taliban with a continued heavy presence by both,.,.. and who rack up substantial body counts of its own citizens each year in sectarian terrorist attacks.

Making a severe judgement and reaching conclusions about a nation and its people, without knowing a single relevant fact or even caring about the facts before passing judgement is typical of you. You run on emotion without reason. You and ********** are worse than hysterical women on PMS.

Nothing buy facts here. Something libtards cannot deny. :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

MaDalton 07-05-2017 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 21870526)
btw... funny to see a guy commenting on visa policy, coming from a country that allowed 11 million Syrians to flood into Europe and so far, has been forced to deport over what?? 1/3 of them... and Merkel herself publicly acknowledged her regret about it all

why not spend your days bitching about Germany and make the claim that if they don't stop deporting refugees, you'll look back on this time with shame (yet another time to look back on with shame for Germany).

why not get your facts straight first?

neither your numbers nor the turn of events is remotely true

i'm always up for a reasonable debate - but without name calling and staying true to what really happened.

none of that applies to your post - so i rather do something else than waste my time here

TheSquealer 07-05-2017 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 21870919)
why not get your facts straight first?

neither your numbers nor the turn of events is remotely true

i'm always up for a reasonable debate - but without name calling and staying true to what really happened.

none of that applies to your post - so i rather do something else than waste my time here

your usual drivel. you take an event WITH NO FACTS. NO CONTEXT WHATSOEVER... and respond with a baseless emotional reaction, compare current US policy to McCarthyism or worse (as if you even know what McCarthyism was without looking it up) and suggest we'll all look back and be ashamed - and then want to adopt the position that you don't understand how others might find that insulting or offensive.

first of all, its none of your fucking business WHO gets admitted to another country. you don't even live on this side of the globe. seems to me, Germany has more than its share of issues to deal with the 1,000,000 refugee disaster... and also, while we're here,... thanks for sending the 9/11 terrorists our way.

you continually take drive-by shots at others, insulting people and their views and beliefs in your posts and then when challenged, adopt a holier than thou attitude, declare yourself above it all and walk away.

you're an intellectual midget, pussy and coward.

you don't want "reasonable debate" or discussion. saying "we'll all look back and be ashamed" (particularly in the context of your non-stop far left posts), along with your sprinkling of other shots at another nation and its people when politics is discussed, is hardly the starting point for "reasonable debate". you don't want a solution, you want to point fingers. you don't have answers. you have criticisms. you don't want to debate, you want to say "you're wrong about everything" and then run and hide.

like ********** and others on your far side of the political spectrum (though ignorant of this, you think you're just "right"), that is never your intent. you simply get emotional about an issue and post emotionally charged rants to vent like a hysterical woman and take subtle shots here and there at others. even worse, you won't even begin to consider the view points of others yet insist you're always up for "reasonable debate" as a parting shot which is pure bullshit and not true at all. thats why i think you're a fucking twat.

and by the way... thats what? the 1000th time you've finished with "i've got better than things to do than...blah blah blah post here"?.... yet here you are posting here every day. clearly you don't have better things to do.

Barry-xlovecam 07-05-2017 06:18 AM

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As of August 2016, the US has already appropriated, spent, or taken on obligations to spend more than $ 3.6 trillion in current dollars on the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Syria and on Homeland Security ( 2001 through fiscal year 2016 ).To this total should be added the approximately $6.5 billion in dedicated war spending the Department of Defense and State Department have requested for the next fiscal year, 2017, along with an additional nearly $3 2 billion requested for the Department of Homeland Security in 2017, and estimated spending on veterans in future years. When those are included, the total US budgetary cost of the wars reaches $4.79 trillion.
http://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/f...nal% 20v2.pdf

So, Trumpspeek wants you to believe that we should create a bad public relations display over a small group of Afghan girls that want travel visas to enter a robotics contest in the US. The Afghans thank you for your insincerity. This is how we MAGA and win the hearts and minds of the world. Rubbish!

TheSquealer 07-05-2017 06:32 AM

And i just realized another thing, Stefan.. Afghanistan isn't even on the list of nations for the TEMPORARY travel ban, you fucking retard.... and after a cursory review of the facts (something you have no interest in) - competitors from Iran and Sudan (which are on the list) WERE granted visas.... a fact which of course didn't make a catchy headline for an agenda and click bait driven media.


but again, you guys don't need facts to drive your agenda, you just need emotion... and thats enough.

Barry-xlovecam 07-05-2017 06:34 AM

did not read^^ don't care

TheSquealer 07-05-2017 06:40 AM

LOL

obviously you do care if is important enough to you to respond.

Paul Markham 07-05-2017 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 21869629)
To the ones who don't understand the importance, value, knowledge, prestige and opportunity this brings (like Trump?), I agree.

To everyone else, this is yet another sad and embarrassing day of the Trump presidency.

No worries though. France and Canada are opening their borders extra-wide to smart people like these girls. Just watch the money and brainpower flow out of the US faster than ever in the next few years.

No it's not. He promised to ban some Muslim Countries, he carried out that ban. Much to the dislike of the libtards.

Paul Markham 07-05-2017 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 21870076)




Needs to be repeated.

Paul Markham 07-05-2017 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 21870481)
So... let me be the first to inject a bit of reason

First of all, no one is entitled to travel to any country. Anyone that travels knows this quite well. US Citizens get turned away at the Canadian border daily. So what? It's their right to do so and no one calls them fascists.

Second, for anyone who knows anything about international travel and travel to the USA, you know that it is 100% normal to not get a visa from a sketchy country regardless of the "reason" for travel. It is almost as hard from a westernized country - regardless of who is President.

Third, the US never gives a reason for visa denial... so any belief as to why they were denied is pure speculation, not fact. For all you know the people who were going with them were Al Queda or had terrorist ties. You have no clue. Absolutely no clue.

Lastly, the fact that you think America will look back and "be ashamed" at not allowing visas for citizens from one of the most terrorist ridden spots on the planet ... even before 9/11 and n modern history, harboring Al Queda and having been ran by the Taliban with a continued heavy presence by both,.,.. and who rack up substantial body counts of its own citizens each year in sectarian terrorist attacks.

Making a severe judgement and reaching conclusions about a nation and its people, without knowing a single relevant fact or even caring about the facts before passing judgement is typical of you. You run on emotion without reason. You and ********** are worse than hysterical women on PMS.

All very good, but these people are Brown. So it all changes.

Paul Markham 07-05-2017 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 21870919)
why not get your facts straight first?

neither your numbers nor the turn of events is remotely true

i'm always up for a reasonable debate - but without name calling and staying true to what really happened.

none of that applies to your post - so i rather do something else than waste my time here

Okay then let's have a reasonable debate. Where does it say someone has a right to visit another country?

The Porn Nerd 07-05-2017 08:43 AM

Until I see the average Muslim denouncing terrorism, ISIS, et al my feeling is simple: keep ALL Muslims out of America. They (the Muslims) are not interested in integrating or assimilating ANYWHERE and view their presence as a sort of subtle warfare.

Again, let me see/hear average everyday Muslims - good, hard-working average people who just want a better life and to take care of their family - let me see/hear THEM denounce terrorism and open the mosques and denounce Sharia law. THEN they can come live amongst us. Not until then, sorry.

crazies 07-05-2017 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 21871138)
LOL

obviously you do care if is important enough to you to respond.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

pimpmaster9000 07-05-2017 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 21871486)
Until I see the average Muslim denouncing terrorism, ISIS, et al my feeling is simple: keep ALL Muslims out of America. They (the Muslims) are not interested in integrating or assimilating ANYWHERE and view their presence as a sort of subtle warfare.

Again, let me see/hear average everyday Muslims - good, hard-working average people who just want a better life and to take care of their family - let me see/hear THEM denounce terrorism and open the mosques and denounce Sharia law. THEN they can come live amongst us. Not until then, sorry.

US foreign policy and US allies in the middle east created/funded/armed alqaeda and ISIS...muslims all over the world already speak against US foreign policy, I do not understand what more you can ask for?

as for shariah law, you do not understand what it is like most people here...googling some shit and copy pasting "western journalism" about what shariah "really is", does not mean you know anything...if you did know what it really was you would not mention it at all...but you did and this proves your ignorance on the subject....

TheSquealer 07-05-2017 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21871531)
US foreign policy and US allies in the middle east created/funded/armed alqaeda and ISIS...muslims all over the world already speak against US foreign policy, I do not understand what more you can ask for?
.

the middle east has been at war since the dawn of civilization itself. islam has been at war with itself for 14 centuries.

the USA did not cause either.

just as the USA is not causing CONSTANT muslim on muslim terrorism, murder and violence in the middle east today.

nice try.

TheSquealer 07-05-2017 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21871462)
No it's not. He promised to ban some Muslim Countries, he carried out that ban. Much to the dislike of the libtards.

Not only that, but it was a TEMPORARY travel ban of only 90 days to simply buy time to put processes and procedures in place to deal with travel requests from those countries who lack any real controls on their end.

DBS.US 07-05-2017 09:49 AM

Only Two Afghan girls refused visas to the United States for a robot-building competition.:2 cents:

pimpmaster9000 07-05-2017 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 21871654)
the middle east has been at war since the dawn of civilization itself. islam has been at war with itself for 14 centuries.

so has christianity...murdering each other for the last 14 centuries...much more so than any other part of the world...

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 21871654)
the USA did not cause either.

just as the USA is not causing CONSTANT muslim on muslim terrorism, murder and violence in the middle east today.

nice try.

your government and foreign policy is the cancer of the world...your country is addicted to war and war inc. is too big to fail...you may proceed to pretend like this is not so, it is very amusing...

TheSquealer 07-05-2017 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21871699)
so has christianity...murdering each other for the last 14 centuries...much more so than any other part of the world...



your government and foreign policy is the cancer of the world...your country is addicted to war and war inc. is too big to fail...you may proceed to pretend like this is not so, it is very amusing...

you're right. Islam is quite the success story.


Bladewire 07-05-2017 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21871699)
your government and foreign policy is the cancer of the world...your country is addicted to war and war inc. is too big to fail...

You're not in your homeland because you have a failed government, and you point at America as the source of the worlds problems, not sadam, Assad, Kim Jong Un, China, etc. Everything's America's fault with you :1orglaugh

TheSquealer 07-05-2017 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21871903)
You're not in your homeland because you have a failed government, and you point at America as the source of the worlds problems, not sadam, Assad, Kim Jong Un, China, etc. Everything's America's fault with you :1orglaugh

or... from his very own homeland....

The Porn Nerd 07-05-2017 03:37 PM

QFT:

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 21871654)
the middle east has been at war since the dawn of civilization itself. islam has been at war with itself for 14 centuries.

the USA did not cause either.

just as the USA is not causing CONSTANT muslim on muslim terrorism, murder and violence in the middle east today.

nice try.

But I will add that I do not believe in a single "bad guy" or Boogieman (and I do not mean Barry White, I believe in him). That's a convenience for the dull-minded. It's easier to point one finger at something and claim "That's the problem!" when, in fact, it's often a combination of many, many factors. IS there a "military industrial complex"? Of course - President Eisenhower (a Republican, for those who care) warned us about it when he left Office in 1960. If it was a concern fifty+ years ago imagine how massive it must be now.

So it's basically a pox on everyone's house as far as I'm concerned. Every country and faction has its' part to play. Me? I'm a pacifist. Make love, not war, etc etc etc.

pimpmaster9000 07-05-2017 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21871903)
You're not in your homeland because you have a failed government, and you point at America as the source of the worlds problems, not sadam, Assad, Kim Jong Un, China, etc. Everything's America's fault with you :1orglaugh

Dude you have a dedicated invasion force that is the biggest employer on planet earth and you have invaded more countries than the Roman empire and dropped more bombs than WW 1&2 combined and 2 nukes and half your spending is on more war...

You are literally cancer LOL

OneHungLo 07-05-2017 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21872536)
Dude you have a dedicated invasion force that is the biggest employer on planet earth and you have invaded more countries than the Roman empire and dropped more bombs than WW 1&2 combined and 2 nukes and half your spending is on more war...

You are literally cancer LOL

http://i.imgur.com/KgrVsco.jpg

directfiesta 07-05-2017 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21872536)
Dude you have a dedicated invasion force that is the biggest employer on planet earth and you have invaded more countries than the Roman empire and dropped more bombs than WW 1&2 combined and 2 nukes and half your spending is on more war...

You are literally cancer LOL

No, that cannot be true !!!!!

slapass 07-05-2017 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 21868924)
I am not interested enough to research the real reason they were denied entry, but no one said there wouldn't be collateral damage.

And why can't one of them be a terrorist?

Pretty much because spastically no one is a terrorist. It is a super small subset of humanity.

TheSquealer 07-05-2017 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 21872455)
QFT:

But I will add that I do not believe in a single "bad guy" or Boogieman (and I do not mean Barry White, I believe in him). That's a convenience for the dull-minded. It's easier to point one finger at something and claim "That's the problem!" when, in fact, it's often a combination of many, many factors. IS there a "military industrial complex"? Of course - President Eisenhower (a Republican, for those who care) warned us about it when he left Office in 1960. If it was a concern fifty+ years ago imagine how massive it must be now.

So it's basically a pox on everyone's house as far as I'm concerned. Every country and faction has its' part to play. Me? I'm a pacifist. Make love, not war, etc etc etc.

I feel the same way actually. There are no innocent parties. There are no single causes.

eric_wahlberg 07-05-2017 11:44 PM

At least, these people will understand that they have to stop violence in name of religion.

Paul Markham 07-06-2017 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 21871486)
Until I see the average Muslim denouncing terrorism, ISIS, et al my feeling is simple: keep ALL Muslims out of America. They (the Muslims) are not interested in integrating or assimilating ANYWHERE and view their presence as a sort of subtle warfare.

Again, let me see/hear average everyday Muslims - good, hard-working average people who just want a better life and to take care of their family - let me see/hear THEM denounce terrorism and open the mosques and denounce Sharia law. THEN they can come live amongst us. Not until then, sorry.

Why just America?

Paul Markham 07-06-2017 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 21871654)
the middle east has been at war since the dawn of civilization itself. islam has been at war with itself for 14 centuries.

the USA did not cause either.

just as the USA is not causing CONSTANT muslim on muslim terrorism, murder and violence in the middle east today.

nice try.

He ignores all but US violence as if it doesn't happen. He doesn't even acknowledge violence his fellow countrymen did when murdering 100,000s of Muslims.

pimpmaster9000 07-06-2017 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21873136)
He ignores all but US violence as if it doesn't happen. He doesn't even acknowledge violence his fellow countrymen did when murdering 100,000s of Muslims.

what other violence was there where the USA was not involved? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

https://williamblum.org/images/uploa...ntions_map.png

NYRangers 07-21-2017 03:57 PM

Does anyone know if they have found the missing team from Burundi yet?

Paul Markham 07-21-2017 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 21869629)
To the ones who don't understand the importance, value, knowledge, prestige and opportunity this brings (like Trump?), I agree.

To everyone else, this is yet another sad and embarrassing day of the Trump presidency.

No worries though. France and Canada are opening their borders extra-wide to smart people like these girls. Just watch the money and brainpower flow out of the US faster than ever in the next few years.

Why is the travel ban a sad day for America?

The travel ban, in my opinion, doesn't go nearly far enough. He should ban all migration except for a few who can pass a rigorous test. The top criteria would be, do you adhere to a religion, creed, sect or group that doesn't respect the values of the country you're entering.

Paul Markham 07-21-2017 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 21870328)
Is it fair to rob the best brains from Third World nations?

Why US brain drain harms developing countries - Al Jazeera English

Billionaires aren't interested in fair. Or even the damage they cause, they're only interested in their profits.

This is one way they save the costs of teaching Americans to do the jobs. The EU is in favour of this system.

Paul Markham 07-22-2017 12:29 AM

What does the OP want? A policy on migration like the EUs, where anyone can get into a boat and enter the EU. Or a policy like Australias where only people who will benefit Australia is allowed in?

He needs to come clean because all the terrorist recent atacks are attributed to migration, along with homelessness, poverty, low wages, unemployment, etc. The UK would be far better off if it had stricter migration policies.

http://www.poverty.org.uk/47/dh.png

http://www.poverty.org.uk/06/a.png

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...men-unemployed

Quote:

More than half of young black men available for work in Britain are now unemployed, according to unpublished government statistics obtained by the Guardian which show the recession is hitting young black people disproportionately hard.

The new figures, which do not include students, also reveal that the youth unemployment rate for black people has increased at almost twice the rate for white 16- to 24-year-olds since the start of the recession in 2008. Young black men are the worst affected of all, according to a gender breakdown contained within the data supplied by the Office for National Statistics.

Unemployment among young black men has doubled in three years, rising from 28.8% in 2008 to 55.9% in the last three months of 2011.
It's not just the First generation we need to be concerned about. It's the second, third and fourth generations.

The OP carries the guilt of Hitler, be careful you don't repeat that guilt. Hitler was aided in his rise to power by Europe's hatred of the Jews. A sect that had not integrated into European society enough to be accepted after living there for 1,000 years. Does he expect the current crop of migrants to integrate into the West quicker than that?

Religion is meant to keep a group apart from its neighbours. Be they Mormon's, Catholic, Jews, Muslims, etc. It's only recently with the rise of agnostics and atheist that we look past a man's creed or colour and start thinking what does he bring to the table. And sadly most migrants don't bring anything.

pimpmaster9000 07-22-2017 02:11 AM

Yeah! The USA does not want any more people in its stolen land! They used the resources of their former countries to cleanse the injuns and then commited treason and now they legit 101%...patriots and shit LOLly...

So when are you white traitors leaving?

Google Expert 07-22-2017 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 21868645)
Afghanistan's all-girl robotics team banned from entering US - but their robot will be allowed in | The Independent

at some point we will look back at these times the same way we look now back at the McCarthy era - or the times of internment for japanese americans. And a lot of people will be ashamed.

:2 cents:

nigga please.

Chances of them coming up with something unique or worthwhile are next to none. You really think anyone can compete with the Silicon Valley or Japanese companies?

They just wanted to get into the country and stay under some bullshit pretense.

Here's a Russian military "robot" (tin piece of shit mounted on a remote controlled cart). Putin just hangs his head in shame.


BaldBastard 07-22-2017 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Google Expert (Post 21904948)
nigga please.

Chances of them coming up with something unique or worthwhile are next to none. You really think anyone can compete with the Silicon Valley or Japanese companies?

They just wanted to get into the country and stay under some bullshit pretense.

USA and Japan got nothing..

Award for Courageous Achievement Awarded to teams that exhibit a “can-do” attitude throughout the Challenge, even under difficult circumstances, or when things do not go as planned.

Gold: South Sudan
Silver: Afghanistan

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Afghan team among medal winners at global robotics event - ABC News


FIRST Global Challenge Award:
Awarded to teams that earn the most match points
Gold: Finland
Silver: Singapore
Bronze: India

FIRST Global Grand Challenge Award
Awarded to teams that accrue the most cumulative points over the course of the competition.

Gold: Team Europe
Silver: Poland
Bronze: Armenia


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