The USA can not beat Asians at war anyway...Asians know this...all miserable losses for the USA invading Asian farmers...the guys with the least testosterone and sticks won...ROR!

who had post #71?

I wonder how Japan feels about this.

He's talking about Korea and Vietnam. Japan was defeated by the international forces. By American and Soviet troops.

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We have American Asians now that are faster, tinier, and more nimble than any other Asians on the planet.

So you are a "give the first punch to your opponent" guy and I am not, so we are at a stalemate.

I do not want to allow NK to come over the Demilitarized Zone at their will in the force of their choosing or using the thousands of Artillery pieces and Rockets at their free will and in the amount of their choosing against the city of Seoul. I do not want to allow them to launch whatever nukes, or Missiles at their free will and in whatever amount they choose to.

I think that policy is the height of stupidity Marine.

I would want to destroy as much as their military capability as I possibly could. I would also simultaneously like to remove as much of their control and command as I possibly could.

BTW, I happen to know that is what our general plan is. You said NK has been planning for this for decades. We too have prepared for the engagement with NK ever since the cease fire. Every year we have practiced joint operations in the area, and since the age of computers we have practiced cyber war games with NK. We adjust our plans for engagement every year as needed.

We also have plans for nuclear strikes if it is deemed necessary. We will use mini nukes and relatively clean nukes, tactically, if this becomes necessary and in all probability it will become necessary, but maybe not.

I know all of this because it used to be in my area of expertise when I was in the military and it is all public knowledge anyhow if you do proper research.

Nonsense.

You can't "raping money from poor nations back to their own rich pockets" poor countries don't have any money. That's why they are poor. Globalisation is about raping the West of jobs and wealth and giving it to the pockets of the large companies.

The last thing those people want is more of their jobs to go to the Third World.

The only reason America wants to stop NK getting more powerful is that they are a rogue state.

How did that policy work with Hitler?

Tell me about these great natural resources the UK has Paul
Cos you don't have fuck all do you, so where does it all come from?
Oh that's right raping and pillaging other countries.

Wouldn't it be "nice" if the UK returned some of the trillions they ripped out of Africa? But that's not going to happen, because its lining some corporation's pocket.

Just one of the many reasons there's always protesting at g20 meetings. you know those events where 20 people decide the fate of millions, all behind closed doors.

Right here is one of the big ones this year

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/07/w...al-treaty.html

But of course no one from the G20 was there were they, that make some people upset.. so they protest.

So how long does the West wait before NK builds and uses or sells its weapons of WMD?

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We will doind dialoge with Kim like with Trump :1orglaugh

india before UK invasion = 25% of the worlds GDP
india after UK invasion = 2% of the worlds GDP

I think paul is right...but I think this after banging my head on the wall like 100 times really really hard :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

pauls selective memory is one of the world wonders :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

what WMD ? Nukes ?

No country has sold Nukes to other countries as far as we know .... Only one country has used nukes ...

As for selling weapons, the USA ( and Russia ) are not in a position to complain about that ...

And why NK only ... What about Pakistan ... home of Bin Laden ????

catchy track

I said WMD.

It's not a question of whether they have or not. It's a question of whether they will or not.

I believe war should be the very last option. Before then, the West should put huge pressure on China to pull this rogue state into line threatening trade embargoes.

There is some movie where people say Trump could have organised more sanctions to N-Korea during G20. Than he could unite people and could show some results bla bla bla bla. I was only looking why other countries didn't start mentionining sanctions at all. Are they afraid they loose China as 'friend'? Cause China could have influence, but we are soooo happy China wants to do something for the environment (that Europe will be paying for) that we don't want to lose the good relations with the democratic republic of China. Are the rest of the countries pussies, or is North Korea only dangerous for the USA?

We cannot attack every country that has threatened us and or down something we do not like.

So, at the very least you are saying we need to attack both North Korea and Iran immediately. Let me know how that works for you.

That is not what I said but is your spin on what I said.

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And that's exactly what they're going to do to free themselves of China's stranglehold on their economy :thumbsup.

NK must be stopped.

You said....

We cannot attack other countries just because we feel threatened.

We have eyes in the sky that can inform us when a nation, any nation, is preparing to engage their military as well as other assets that provide this same type of information. We will know when NK is preparing to engage and it is our current policy to do a preemptive strike to destroy as much as their military capability as possible and to take out their command and control before they can engage at their free will. Like it or not it is our countries military policy. This policy is not just applicable to NK BTW, it is military policy period. This is a new era in time, but not really that new, it has been military policy for many years.

Sure sure. Like when Iraq invaded Kuwait?

No, we will not know when a strike is coming. How many times had North Korea gone through the motions of prepping a missile since Trump has been in office? Four times? Ten times? How many times did they attack the United States? Not once. We can watch them prep and launch missiles until the cows come home - We won't know we are the target until a missile is half way to the US and by then it's too late.

North Korea can never launch a nuclear missile at the United States. The moment they do, we launch at them, game over.

You never were in on the know as you were just a Marine Corp Grunt many, many years ago. You are not aware of our current capabilities, and clearly are not aware of current military policy

Even what is ancient history in the era of current technology the military intel was 100% aware that Iraq was preparing to invade Kuwiat. You keep talking about the U.S. being a target of NK and it really is not nor in all likely hood will it ever be. It is our allies, South Korea, and possibly Japan that would be the priority targets for South Korea. South Korea would be the first and foremost target for NK. We are obligated to defend both and we will carry out our obligation.

In addition, no missile would be halfway here before we know that we are a target. We know within a matter of seconds what the general target of a missile is. We have capabilities that some of our enemies may know about but the public will not know about until maybe 20 years from now or longer. What the WH says or our intel agencies say, or what the media says that those agencies say, has little if anything to do with actuality. Maybe 20 years out the public may or may not know the actual truth of what is being said or even done at this moment in time.

I have been in the intel field so I know more than you or anyone else that has not been in the intel field but even I am not up to date and I never will really be up to date ever again. I still have friends that are up to date but they are pretty closed mouth as their job requires them to be and even when they speak to me, I cannot ever be certain of what they are saying, as it is the job of intel to, among other things, to be deceitful.

The bottom line is when something negative about our intel, our military, or weapons systems are made public it probably is not true, and vice versa, if something positive is made public about these same subjects, it too may not be true.

Nothing is as it seems.

I spoke a little to quickly about missiles. It is conceivable that a submarine lunched missiles, in some instances could be on the target before it was established what the target in fact would be.

First.... I love all things military related, including military history and more current info. I know, for example, the United States just started building a new submarine - just a few days ago. The book I am currently reading is "Paths of Armor" about the 5th armored division, and the book before that was "Life In The Third Reich" and the book before that was about the USS Seawolf. I know what our current abilities are, and no, we do not know the target of a missile moments after it's launched.

Second... I am done debating with fake nicks. If I do not know exactly who you are, I am putting you on ignore.

North Korea has most of its critical infrastructure already underground, they have been preparing and training their country for conflict 60 years. In all regards the North Korean mentality is, they have always been at war with the USA. Everytime the USA does a war game, provoking flybys and all the rest justifies that position to them. USA could drop their whole nuclear arsenal on the place, and when the dust clears.. they will resume, but with more vigour.

Drop a nuke on them, and watch a biological attack hit the USA. opps.

Please do as you are just an ex Jar Head grunt that really does not have knowledge about our Intel, military policies, capabilities or weapons systems so there is not anything that I have to debate with you. Every thing you think you know about these subjects is what has been released to the public. I know what I know because it was my field of expertise for a number of years.

Just to inform you, unlike you I do not have a nick. It is my name.

Your nic was created during the political season last year, you don't list a country, city or state in your profile, and you don't work in the industry, so Rochard coming to the conclusion that you're a fake nic is psychologically valid.

Is this you?

During Operation Iraqi Freedom, many Iraqi command bunkers and suspected chemical-biological weapons bunkers were deeply buried underground and thought to be difficult to disable using conventional explosives. New HPM weapons were reportedly considered for possible use in attacks against these targets because the numerous communications and power lines leading into the underground bunkers offered pathways for conducting powerful surges of electromagnetic energy that could destroy the computer equipment inside. Because instantaneous HPM energy can reflect off the ground and possibly affect piloted aircraft above, much testing currently involves HPM devices on Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs), and on the Air Force Conventional Air ...

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Unless, those underground facilities have no conduit from the surface they are not really safe havens. Even a radio antenna to the surface will serve as a conductor.

Yep all is good, no need to be concerned.

Experts say North Korea showing off missiles that

Missiles paraded through the streets of Pyongyang in recent displays of North Korean military might -- said to be capable of hitting targets throughout Asia and even in the U.S. -- are incapable of flight and are almost certainly nothing more than fakes, according to U.S. government experts and independent analysts--

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At least we know for certain the don't have submarines! Imagine they damage they could inflict if they did especially on a country like Japan.

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North Korea is and always has been a complex issue, they don't want you in there country, you insist on provoking and intimidating them.

Lets say The great USA reacts and bombs them, whose going to come to their rescue and help rebuild the country? China and Russia.

It's a no win situation for the USA no matter what you do, in all scenarios America is the biggest loser.

Who the fuck are you?

Have I met you?
Have we talked on the phone?
Have we ever done business?
Have we ever shared a beer at show?
Have we ever shared a hooker at a show?
Have we ever shared a transexual midget at a show?
Do I have you Facebook? Skype? ICQ? Linked in?

The answer is no.

You are a fake nick.

Another fake nick. You signed up in 2003, have less than 1k posts, and I've never heard of you?

Fake.

No.koreans have the smallest penises in the world...but they still defeated the USA...not looking good for the us army at all...

What's with you all and "fake nick"? One's argument/opinion doesn't become any less valid just because you don't know the identity of the person posting it. :2 cents:

America will not be the biggest loser in any scenario. There will not be any rebuilding of NK as the biggest losers will be North and South Korea but the outcome will be a unified Korea.

Nonsense.

who is willing to go, or sent his/her children, to North Korea for war?

Oh so you beat n.korea? My bad then LOL