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CPA-Rush 07-26-2017 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21913423)
they might cause men to be more caring, loving, hating towards their fellow combatants. Because they are women.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

Bladewire 07-26-2017 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21913462)
Ask serving men if they want to have women in the frontline or on a ship with them. Airforce is fine, they can fly, maintenance, guard. Well away from the front line.

This is why your generation needs to be out of power. Trump is your generations last reign of power thank God. You don't get how the younger generation has evolved, the normal younger generation, not the extremes. You just don't get it.

Axeman 07-26-2017 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 21913288)
What would these huge medical costs be? - Would anyone expect the military to pay for the op? - I doubt that...

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Two-dozen House Republicans broke with their pro-defense brethren Thursday and helped Democrats kill an amendment that would have barred the military from funding transgender sex reassignment surgeries and hormone therapies.

The amendment to the annual National Defense Authorization Act, which sets out policies on America?s $696 billion military budget, failed 214-209, with all Democrats and 24 Republicans opposing.

It means the military health care system will be called on to provide such surgeries as routine treatments for the first time, unless the Trump administration changes Obama-era policies that allow transgender troops to remain on duty.
Pentagon to keep paying for sex-change surgeries - Washington Times

The Military Times reports there are about 250 people in transition or approved to be in the Pentagon system now.

So it looks like they were getting their transformations paid for while in the military.

Bladewire 07-26-2017 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Axeman (Post 21913567)
Pentagon to keep paying for sex-change surgeries - Washington Times

The Military Times reports there are about 250 people in transition or approved to be in the Pentagon system now.

So it looks like they were getting their transformations paid for while in the military.

Oh wow 250 transgender surgeries stop the presses! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You support every single thing Trump does you have no integrity


Bladewire 07-26-2017 09:45 AM

The American public has spent more on Trump's travel to his golf courses in 1 month than all trans surgeries in the military.

Axeman 07-26-2017 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21913573)
Oh wow 250 transgender surgeries stop the presses! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You support every single thing Trump does you have no integrity


Not true. I called him out for his nonsense with the AG. I also think this policy is misguided of sorts. In my opinion if someone has already transgendered and passes the psych test, then they should be good to go. I think if while enlisted and you want to transgender you should be discharged and free to go start the process on your own dime. And if you want to return after its done and pass the psych test, good to go. I think blanket policy that people that have completed their transitions can't serve is crazy.

You disagree and that is fine.

slapass 07-26-2017 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21913423)
The military by definition isn't the place to have PC values. Anyone who thinks it is is an idiot.

A member of my family is in the frontline and sometimes beyond it. Women don't have the physical strength to be in the front line, they might cause men to be more caring, loving, hating towards their fellow combatants. Because they are women.

By all means, put transgender behind a desk in an office far away from the fight. But for fuck's sake, the military is about killing people and that's not PC.

Their fellow soldiers tend to rape them has been one biproduct. But then it turns out the superiors tend to rape the men too. The military sounds great.

Rochard 07-26-2017 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Google Expert (Post 21913342)
It's about time the military stopped being used as a place for social engineering. This President gets it...militaries are there to fight and win wars. Period. Now I hope he'll cut out all the various "Pride weeks" and "awareness months", and use those resources for operational needs.

That's a stunning statement, and even more so from someone in our industry.

The United States military has always been the leader in social engineering and change. The US military was first to allow blacks to serve, then women, then gays men and women.

Sarn 07-26-2017 10:26 AM

>Trump Bans All Transgenders From the U.S. Military
Trump ban this niche :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Soon he will ban homosex :1orglaugh

bronco67 07-26-2017 10:32 AM

Another self-created crisis (or is it a distraction?) so he can discriminate against 6,000 people who make up a group of 1.4 million.

Think about that. It's 0.4% of the military.

Why are Republicans hell-bent on a mission to go backwards in time?

bronco67 07-26-2017 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21913462)
Just not in the Army. Tell me one positive thing about having Gays or Transgender in the Forces, except in jobs like catering, nurse, office jobs, etc.

You're dealing with peoples lives here so be careful about what you suggest.

Ask serving men if they want to have women in the frontline or on a ship with them. Airforce is fine, they can fly, maintenance, guard. Well away from the front line.

It's going to be great when people who think like you die soon, but I'm sure there's an upcoming generation of dickheads to take your place after you go into the ground. When will that be? A couple years maybe? Couple of months?

Bladewire 07-26-2017 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 21913690)
Another self-created crisis (or is it a distraction?) so he can discriminate against 6,000 people who make up a group of 1.4 million.

Think about that. It's 0.4% of the military.

Why are Republicans hell-bent on a mission to go backwards in time?

Trump is playing to his conservative base because he's taking a big hit by trying to get Sessions to quit.

He'll start a war on porn soon, just like Bush.

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Hannes 07-26-2017 11:22 AM

I agree with this... not trying to hate but there a lot more to it than just just being a transgender

Bladewire 07-26-2017 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MedCash_Geoff (Post 21913792)
I agree with this... not trying to hate but there a lot more to it than just just being a transgender

What more is there that justifies discrimination of active duty service members?

Imagine thousands of transgenders with honorable discharges and all the financial benefits that entails, hundreds of millions of dollars over their lifetimes.

RedFred 07-26-2017 11:46 AM

Analysis: Military spends five times as much on Viagra as it would on transgender medical care

Analysis: Military spends five times as much on Viagra as it would on transgender medical care


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Bladewire 07-26-2017 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 21913885)
Analysis: Military spends five times as much on Viagra as it would on transgender medical care

Analysis: Military spends five times as much on Viagra as it would on transgender medical care


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Trump just tweeted:

"IN AMERICA WE DON'T WORSHIP GOVERNMENT - WE WORSHIP GOD!"

Joshua G 07-26-2017 12:12 PM

the OP is a dumb shit who has no clue what the purpose of the military is.

its not for liberal social progress dumb shit. its to win wars, defend the country. women & homos & trannys cant win wars. they can only make ISIS sound like they are right about western society.

dumb shit. take your equal rights for freakshows in the military & shove it up your ass.

:2 cents:

kane 07-26-2017 12:13 PM

This is the kind of stuff the Democrats have allowed themselves to be drawn into far too much in recent years. Trump doesn't give a shit if transgender people serve in the military. He likely didn't even know they did before making this announcement. This was done to piss off liberals and get them talking about things that distract them from jobs and helping the middle class.

Just the other day the Democrats took a good step forward by announcing that they were working on ideas that would help create jobs and improve the economy etc. In short, stuff middle class working people want to hear. now this comes along and you know there will be a big fight about it. If the Democrats allow themselves to be distracted by this and they make it the focus of their agenda, they are playing right into the Republican's hands as Trump tries to solidify his base with stuff like this because they are going to be angry with him when he fails them on healthcare.

Bladewire 07-26-2017 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 21914002)
This is the kind of stuff the Democrats have allowed themselves to be drawn into far too much in recent years. Trump doesn't give a shit if transgender people serve in the military. He likely didn't even know they did before making this announcement. This was done to piss off liberals and get them talking about things that distract them from jobs and helping the middle class.

Just the other day the Democrats took a good step forward by announcing that they were working on ideas that would help create jobs and improve the economy etc. In short, stuff middle class working people want to hear. now this comes along and you know there will be a big fight about it. If the Democrats allow themselves to be distracted by this and they make it the focus of their agenda, they are playing right into the Republican's hands as Trump tries to solidify his base with stuff like this because they are going to be angry with him when he fails them on healthcare.

I think active duty servicemen & women being used as a political pawn, and losing their livelihood, is something worth defending. That's how Democrats need to address it IMO.

"Liberty and justice for all"

It's very simple

I'd feel the same way if Trump was discharging all military that use Viagra.

Joshua G 07-26-2017 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 21914002)
This is the kind of stuff the Democrats have allowed themselves to be drawn into far too much in recent years. Trump doesn't give a shit if transgender people serve in the military. He likely didn't even know they did before making this announcement. This was done to piss off liberals and get them talking about things that distract them from jobs and helping the middle class.

Just the other day the Democrats took a good step forward by announcing that they were working on ideas that would help create jobs and improve the economy etc. In short, stuff middle class working people want to hear. now this comes along and you know there will be a big fight about it. If the Democrats allow themselves to be distracted by this and they make it the focus of their agenda, they are playing right into the Republican's hands as Trump tries to solidify his base with stuff like this because they are going to be angry with him when he fails them on healthcare.

kane. social justice & race whining & sex whining is the democrats only issue. oh & kill republicans. thats about it.

when they attempt issues people care about, all they can come up with is a papa johns jingle. thats how clueless & out of touch the dems are.

they are bladewires party. not the american peoples party. & as long as they are bladewires party, its minority status as far as the eye can see...

:2 cents:

Bladewire 07-26-2017 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21914050)
kane. social justice & race whining & sex whining is the democrats only issue. oh & kill republicans. thats about it.

Fuck off crackhead put the fucking pipe down and brush your fucking teeth!

kane 07-26-2017 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21914011)
I think active duty servicemen & women being used as a political pawn, and losing their livelihood, is something worth defending. That's how Democrats need to address it IMO.

"Liberty and justice for all"

It's very simple

I'd feel the same way if Trump was discharging all military that use Viagra.

I agree that it is worth defending. They just have to be wise. This can't be the focus of what they are doing going forward. If things like this, and who can pee in what bathroom etc are the primary things the party focuses on, it will continue to lose blue collar, middle class voters who feel like they are being abandoned by the party.

Joshua G 07-26-2017 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21914098)
Fuck off crackhead put the fucking pipe down and brush your fucking teeth!

listen to kane, dumb shit.

all you talk about here is identity politics & calling the country racist, dumb shit.

thats all your party talks about too, dumb shit. hollywood, the media, college. they talk about nothing else but race whining, sex whining, & global warming.

trump did this just to troll you. dumb shit. of course you fell for it.

dumb shit.

:1orglaugh

Joshua G 07-26-2017 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 21913693)
It's going to be great when people who think like you die soon, but I'm sure there's an upcoming generation of dickheads to take your place after you go into the ground. When will that be? A couple years maybe? Couple of months?

hey look, another post of liberal tolerance.

dumb shit.

:1orglaugh

Google Expert 07-26-2017 01:18 PM

http://i.imgur.com/H0oiZ6f.jpg

TheSquealer 07-26-2017 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Google Expert (Post 21914161)


TheSquealer 07-26-2017 01:19 PM



Joshua G 07-26-2017 01:29 PM

the dumb libs care only about their equal rights obsession. to hell with unit cohesion or putting the best people on the ground.

its no wonder ISIS grew & prospered while a liberal nutjob president presided over a 500 billion dollar military.

what a fucking embarrassment obama was, as are you whining dumb libs, who take our freedoms for granted. put the best soldiers on the ground. not a bunch of kaitlyn jenners, idiots.

now go shoot up a baseball field you idiot dumbfucks.

:mad:

Paul Markham 07-26-2017 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21913474)
You're playing on stereotypes, not reality. Most Gays you'd never know we are Gay. Very few are feminine men or masculine women.

Gays have always served and people have not known we were there, because we aren't a stereotype.

Says you, a gay.

I suppose if a Gay man wants to keep his sexuality a secret then he could serve. Other wise no. It's about being in the frontline with your comrades and not about being PC.

Paul Markham 07-26-2017 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21913564)
This is why your generation needs to be out of power. Trump is your generations last reign of power thank God. You don't get how the younger generation has evolved, the normal younger generation, not the extremes. You just don't get it.

You're playing with men's lives here, not being PC. Of course you ask the serving men what they want.

Is that against your PC agenda because they might say no?

Paul Markham 07-26-2017 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21913657)
That's a stunning statement, and even more so from someone in our industry.

The United States military has always been the leader in social engineering and change. The US military was first to allow blacks to serve, then women, then gays men and women.

No, it wasn't. The British Empire had serving black soldiers. The only reasons the US used them was because they were short of men to fight. It was still a segregated army up until WW2.

Paul Markham 07-26-2017 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 21913693)
It's going to be great when people who think like you die soon, but I'm sure there's an upcoming generation of dickheads to take your place after you go into the ground. When will that be? A couple years maybe? Couple of months?

Are serving Men my generation?

Paul Markham 07-26-2017 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21913837)
What more is there that justifies discrimination of active duty service members?

Imagine thousands of transgenders with honorable discharges and all the financial benefits that entails, hundreds of millions of dollars over their lifetimes.

Thousands of transgender with honourable discharges???? Now you're being silly.

noshit 07-26-2017 01:41 PM

Beta males and faggots want the USA to fight towel heads that throw faggots off buildings; with faggots

Makes sense... to bring us down to the lowest faggot. Not even worth discussing, they've never been in a real fight... and Have no Clue

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Paul Markham 07-26-2017 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21913999)
the OP is a dumb shit who has no clue what the purpose of the military is.

its not for liberal social progress dumb shit. its to win wars, defend the country. women & homos & trannys cant win wars. they can only make ISIS sound like they are right about western society.

dumb shit. take your equal rights for freakshows in the military & shove it up your ass.

:2 cents:

Sjhiot gets real in a fox hole. Then you put men's lives on the line. The cohesion of a fighting force is paramount. But that comes secondary to the PC brigade.

Paul Markham 07-26-2017 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21914011)
I think active duty servicemen & women being used as a political pawn, and losing their livelihood, is something worth defending. That's how Democrats need to address it IMO.

Yes, by the PS brigade. You are putting men's lives at risk for your feelings.

This is one of the reasons the Democrats lost.

Bladewire 07-26-2017 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21914215)
You're playing with men's lives here, not being PC. Of course you ask the serving men what they want.

Is that against your PC agenda because they might say no?

You always call me PC. I'm not PC. You're such a one way street mind stuffed with negative stereotypes and judgements. Dust out the cobwebs Paul! Anyone not Trump & for equal rights is a patriot. It's the American way "Liberty and justice for all"

Bladewire 07-26-2017 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21914263)
Yes, by the PS brigade. You are putting men's lives at risk for your feelings.

This is one of the reasons the Democrats lost.

Get the stick out of your ass Paul Trump ran on a pro Gay rights and pro transgender platform you're being a dope. Clearly, yet again, you're clueless to American politics.







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