Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 21916039)

Then it's about education? - Blacks on the front-line where frowned upon - It happened anyway and now it's normal - In fact it's encouraged...

Social change will happen - It's happened all your LONG life:winkwink: - Get used to it Paul.....

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21916162)

No, as a matter of fact I do not see the difference. A woman can pull a trigger just as easily as a man can on the battlefield.

I have lots of friends in the US military, and a lot of them are women. One of them was a medic, and she spent a lot of her time in combat in Afghanistan. She did her job and came back alive. She saved lives. You can't tell me she is not as qualified to serve as I am.

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21916177)

You don't feel safe with a Gay man, even if he's white?

That's your own emotional problem Paul and has nothing to do with reality.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21916777)

Precisely, she's a medic.

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 21916657)

Uhm... no,its not. It's a "build the most effective fighting force possible" thing. Thats why people are not allowed to join the armed forces for a large variety of reasons.... regardless of whether or not they call themselves "patriot" or no.

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 21916783)

Medic's are very much on the front line - So are are the nurses that you mentioned earlier in the thread...

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21916771)

Agreed. But don't educate people while they're meant to be fighting in wars.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21916801)

With big burly men protecting them.

Ask the serving soldiers what they would prefer, a medic who is a man or a woman? And don't come back with a 200lb burly woman who can drag a wounded soldier off a battle field.

You're playing with people's lives here to make a point.

What next, Chiawawa Guard dogs on military sites?

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 21916249)

She may be as qualified to serve as you are but I doubt that you are qualified to serve. Unless she is a bull dyke and is full of testosterone she is not 100% capable of performing her role in the MOS as a medic. She is not capable of carrying or dragging a 200 lb man out of harms way in order to treat him.

The military allows women to serve in many MOS's that they are not 100% qualified to serve in. I have many friends that have served and are still serving and all have testified to this fact. Just as another example; women are allowed the MOS for driving a truck but they cannot perform 100% of all that is involved in that MOS, the average woman driver cannot change a tire on a duece and a half, she cannot lift five gallon Jerry cans of gas to put gas into the truck, she cannot load or off load much of what is carried on the truck.

A woman is allowed the MOS of being a Micro Wave Systems Operator and they cannot perform 100% of all that is involved in that MOS. They cannot lift the 5 gallon Jerry cans of gas to fill the Generators. The majority of them cannot use the heavy sledge hammers to pound the long heavy iron stakes in for the guide wires on the Micro Dishes.

Men in these MOS's have to be able to perform all of these feats in order to obtain the MOS. They brass turn their heads when it comes to women being able to meet the requirements of the MOS. There really are very few MOS's in the military that women can perform 100% of the requirements.

Men have to go out of their way to assist women in performing the duties required of the MOS that PC allows them to serve in. Men cannot act like men or talk like men when women are serving in MOS's that they are not actually qualified to server in.

One of my friends, an NCO, was an instructor for summer drills for West Point Cadets. Women are now allowed to serve at the Point. My friend was on the firing range as an instructor when the cadets were firing .50 Cal's MG's. A female cadet could not clear her MG when it jammed. She asked my friend to clear it for her. He told her no that he would not that she had been trained on that procedure and to clear it herself. He then went on to say something along the lines of, if you can't don't worry about it, you won't ever be required to use one in combat anyhow.

She reported him and he was reprimanded not for not helping her but for "Sexual Harassment" and this went into his jacket. In addition he was removed from being an instructor for the Cadets. He did not mind that so much but a permanent black mark on his record for "Sexual Harassment" pissed him off and when his enlistment was up after 12 years in the service he did not reenlist.

The powers that be should never have done away with the WAC's and over women's branches. The WAC's could all perform their MOS's 100%.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21914995)

The United States military has ALWAYS been the catalyst for social change. There have been books written about this very subject. Blacks, women, and then gays - the US military always led the way.

Originally Posted by oppoten (Post 21916837)

I'm sure it has, but too much progressivism and it ceases to be "change". Hillary wouldn't have been the first of anything; she would've been four more years of more of the same.

The change is the pushback. There will be many young white males entering the military now who have ideas that are much more aligned with Trump.

Like it or not, straight white males remain the core of the military in most Western countries. These men I'm sure find it much easier to submit to authority than "me me me" trannies who won't leave their personal drama at the door :2 cents:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21916792)

All that goes out the window when the PC brigade gets to town.

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 21916852)

I am happy that the 'me me me' trannies are left at the recruiting booth - Like anyone not suitable - There are however many that will serve with honors - You might also be surprised how many of those 'young white males' are far more tolerant than you would seem to believe...

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 21916879)

i think the transgenders must be stupid.
Just like the man and woman.

Willing to die for some oil in 95% of the cases.
Must be something wrong with them all.

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 21916852)

I am happy that the 'me me me' trannies are left at the recruiting booth - Like anyone not suitable - There are however many that will serve with honors - You might also be surprised how many of those 'young white males' are far more tolerant than you would seem to believe...

Originally Posted by oppoten (Post 21916912)

A tranny turned down for being a drama queen may then go to the media, who will then shame the military, and therein lies the problem. A straight white male turned down for the same reason would probably go away, lick his wounds, work on himself and not kick up a fuss.

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21916924)

So you stereotype trannies as media whores and straight guys as "licking their wounds", "working on themselves" and not "kicking up a fuss".

GFY is a sesspool of whining bitching straight guys kicking up a fuss making excuses for their failures you're funny :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21916801)

With big burly men protecting them.

Ask the serving soldiers what they would prefer, a medic who is a man or a woman? And don't come back with a 200lb burly woman who can drag a wounded soldier off a battle field.

You're playing with people's lives here to make a point.

What next, Chiawawa Guard dogs on military sites?

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 21916879)

i think the transgenders must be stupid.
Just like the man and woman.

Willing to die for some oil in 95% of the cases.
Must be something wrong with them all.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21916801)

What next, Chiawawa Guard dogs on military sites?

Originally Posted by oppoten (Post 21917401)

oops, nearly forgot

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21916807)

You're so full of contradictions.

You're making any bullshitt excuse to discriminate. It's good that what you think doesn't matter, you can't vote in America. I can, and do :winkwink:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 21916816)

You are sounding like an ass - You lost your point about 2 pages back - Give it up...

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 21916852)

I am happy that the 'me me me' trannies are left at the recruiting booth - Like anyone not suitable - There are however many that will serve with honors - You might also be surprised how many of those 'young white males' are far more tolerant than you would seem to believe...

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21916867)

90% of the guys I film are straight military and it's much easier to get them in front of the camera than it used to be :2 cents:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21916861)

"Liberty and justice for all" is part of our pledge of allegiance in America, it's not a "politically correct" (PC) far left European drum beat.

I'm pretty sure you've rented your GFY account out to someone at this point.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21917677)

So maybe we shouldn't allow them in on the basis they would be fucking each other.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21917341)

I am friends with the local Marine recruiter, and he is big on recruiting women to join the Marines. At first I was a little skeptical about it. Then I saw these women come back from boot camp and they were full fledged Marines. The chicks go from high school cheerleaders and after boot camp they have the same warrior ethic all Marines have. It's amazing.

If you can get through boot camp, you earn the right to serve. Period.

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21917683)

We've allowed them. Europe has allowed them. No problems.

Break free Paul and have faith 💓

Originally Posted by Helix (Post 21915979)

He transitioned after he retired from the military.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21917692)

Yes Europe is more PC fucked than the US. Your point was?

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21917710)

Open your mind Paul.

Reality has shown no more issues with them than allowing blacks.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21917977)

What is it that's so wrong about asking the men on the frontline and letting them decide? Rather a bunch of keyboard warriors?

It's their lives you're playing with.

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 21916879)

i think the transgenders must be stupid.
Just like the man and woman.

Willing to die for some oil in 95% of the cases.
Must be something wrong with them all.