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kane 08-07-2017 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 21938746)
Sick burn, bro :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

So Obama didn't lose 3.8 million jobs in his first 6 months?

Or are you just triggered by facts?

You fake news believers really crack me up :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Try getting some facts :2 cents:

:pimp
You do understand that Obama was handed a cratering economy that was shedding jobs at a rate of 800,000 per month, right?

Here's a graph showing the job losses and gains.

The first year under Obama sucked as the recession was still playing out, but in early 2010 it turned around and we have seen nothing but job growth since then.

In short, Obama was handed an economy on the brink of collapse, Trump was handed an economy that was doing pretty well.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1fyt0JVEAMld2b.jpg

pimpmaster9000 08-07-2017 04:58 PM
Don't mention the wall to red hats... awkward silence... awkward...silence...no wall...no Mexico pay...it's almost as though red hats and trump are waiting for the world to forget...

Wall!

*Awkward silence intensifies

directfiesta 08-07-2017 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by kane (Post 21938764)
You do understand that Obama was handed a cratering economy that was shedding jobs at a rate of 800,000 per month, right?

Here's a graph showing the job losses and gains.

The first year under Obama sucked as the recession was still playing out, but in early 2010 it turned around and we have seen nothing but job growth since then.

In short, Obama was handed an economy on the brink of collapse, Trump was handed an economy that was doing pretty well.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1fyt0JVEAMld2b.jpg
Asspimp is too stupid to see how stupid his analogy is .... Comparing 2008 to 2017....

Don't waste your time with such a Stupid idiotic moron :2 cents:

Acepimp 08-07-2017 06:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kane (Post 21938764)
You do understand that Obama was handed a cratering economy that was shedding jobs at a rate of 800,000 per month, right?

Here's a graph showing the job losses and gains.

The first year under Obama sucked as the recession was still playing out, but in early 2010 it turned around and we have seen nothing but job growth since then.

In short, Obama was handed an economy on the brink of collapse, Trump was handed an economy that was doing pretty well.
Kane makes a valid point. We all know the Bush crime family are a bunch of scum who ripped us off. We all know Dick Cheney was really in charge since W was too dumb.

The Bush family and Dick Cheney also endorsed Hillary in the election. You guys are on the side of Bush & Cheney :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Trump isn't a corrupt politician, so the voters made the right choice. Time to accept the election results & look into DNC crimes. :thumbsup

bronco67 08-07-2017 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 21938893)


Trump isn't a corrupt politician, so the voters made the right choice. Time to accept the election results & look into DNC crimes. :thumbsup
He's a corrupt human being and that's enough for me. There is absolutely nothing credible or honest about that piece of garbage -- other than the fact that I know he's a male.

ruff 08-07-2017 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 21938746)
Sick burn, bro :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

So Obama didn't lose 3.8 million jobs in his first 6 months?

Or are you just triggered by facts?

You fake news believers really crack me up :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Try getting some facts :2 cents:

:pimp
You will never wash off the tRump stink. I think if you weren't so goddamn stupid you would be embarrassed. But you are stupid. You should smarten up a little before coming back to this board. You've got nothing, absolutely nothing valid to prop up tRump. Apparently everyone can see this except idiots like you. Repubicans have accomplished nothing and tRumps on vacation tweeting like a madman that he's working like hell. Isn't that a panic? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Paul Markham 08-07-2017 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 21937948)
Have you ever been to the US?
Yes many times.

Paul Markham 08-07-2017 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21937993)
Paul, our unemployment is in the 4% range. Unemployment has been cut in half in the past six years before Trump took office.

There is no reason to invest hundreds of billions of dollars into a wall to deal with a problem that no longer exists.
Your real unemployment is closer to 10% if it were higher there would be more competition for jobs leading to higher wages and more taxes paid. The other points still remain, the effect it has on your crime, taxes and borrowing is devastating.

Paul Markham 08-07-2017 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21938044)
Not true.

You know I am against illegal immigration.

You're shitting propoganda again.

I live in California, the mecca of illegal immigration. We have a budget SURPLUS in our state and our state unemployment is 4.8% this year. Illegal immigrants work in the fields and at shitty under the table jobs predominantly like Nanny's , maintenance men, etc.

Where illegal immigrants impact our lives here is in the education system and healthcare predominantly. Not housing. Not jobs most Californians want.

So if you want to talk about the impact of illegal immigration in America then start an honest conversation about it not posting dramatic political propganda.

We don't hate or fear our immigrants here in California because we know why they're fleeing Mexico & South America. We see on TV the hell it is down there. Immigrants here raise our children, work in our fields, buy our food, buy our gas, buy our clothes, go-to the movies, buy food at restaurants, buy cars, buy toys for their kids etc.

You're so full of racial fear of immigrants, and minority citizens, that you're incapable of seeing reality.

None of this impacts you. You're a Bri living in Czechoslovakia, one of the whitest countries on Earth trying to spread your fear to the most racially diverse country on the planet :1orglaugh
http://www.trbimg.com/img-58755359/t...10/750/750x422

Seems it's only the last few years. How did they achieve that, by cutting the spending or more money coming in?

Paul Markham 08-07-2017 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 21938152)
TRUE OR FALSE?

When Mexicans move into a white community the crime rate goes up, property values go down and the community looks worse in general.


If minority immigration is such a false fear, would you be okay with your community moving towards a 30, 40, 50+ percent mexican population? And don't say you've lived in areas like that before. I'm talking about currently living in a white area that shifts towards Mexican domination. Would you have a problem with that?
Where illegal migrants live is always an area of low pay, poverty etc. If the contribution they made was so good, why aren't they in middle-class areas?

Paul Markham 08-07-2017 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 21938179)
TPP is dead. A million new jobs since February. Thanks Obama! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
https://www.citizen.org/our-work/glo...ome-inequality

Half a Million U.S. Jobs Lost to TPP | LifeZette

http://www.ibew.org/articles/14Elect..._map.large.jpg

https://s3.amazonaws.com/truth-prod/...630?1416050447

Paul Markham 08-07-2017 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21938191)
Obama created the 10,000 more jobs the same period last year. It's sad you don't educate yourself before you post. #ThanksObama

How Trump compares with Obama so far on jobs - Aug. 4, 2017

"With July's jobs report, employers have added a total of 1,074,000 jobs during Trump's first six full months in office.

That essentially matches the 1,084,000 jobs created during President Barack Obama's last six months in office. Both round to 1.1 million, and the 10,000 difference is well within the margin of error of the Labor Department estimate."
Was that Obama or recovery after the Banking Crisis. Well let's see.

https://www.economicgreenfield.com/w...t-1024x680.png

Seems it was the markets recovering.

Paul Markham 08-07-2017 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21938227)
^^^ Redhat fake nic TRIGGERED!

Redhats are repelled by pro Obama facts they are like Kryptonite!
I was an Obama supporter but over the years of his Presidency, he did little to address the problems the US faces and a lot to make them worse.

Obamacare while being better than Trumpcare is a disaster because he failed to tackle the root problem. That's what Americans are charged for Healthcare.

The jobs he created were mostly in the low pay sector. The jobs created was due to the economy recovering after the banking crisis. It happens after all banking crisis.

TPP is a disaster for America.

His refusal to call Islamic Terrorist, Islamic Terrorist was a mistake.

He was a disappointment as a President. Because of the two houses bought and paid for by big business.

Acepimp 08-07-2017 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ruff (Post 21939178)
You will never wash off the tRump stink. I think if you weren't so goddamn stupid you would be embarrassed. But you are stupid. You should smarten up a little before coming back to this board. You've got nothing, absolutely nothing valid to prop up tRump. Apparently everyone can see this except idiots like you. Repubicans have accomplished nothing and tRumps on vacation tweeting like a madman that he's working like hell. Isn't that a panic? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
^^ Can't make an intelligent argument. Resorts to name calling :1orglaugh:1orglaugh Try getting informed.

But you're right, the establishment Repubs are working against him. Swamp creature scum bags. Also there's no evidence of wrongdoing and the Russia story is a hoax. He's doing fine, what's the problem?

Paul Markham 08-07-2017 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21938248)
Do you didn't look up the racial makeup of where I live and just make assumptions :1orglaugh I suppose you assume I've never lived in the poor part of a city, foreign country, it in the sticks as a redneck either.

The difference between you and I is I talk from life experience, not fear.

Mexicans & Latinos are 30.2% of the population here in my city. Google it. They live in mansions here, and in apartments. Some are maids & gardner's, some own corporations and are millionaires.

There's almost no crime here.

"The overall Dana Point, CA crime rate is 38% lower than the California average and is 34% lower than the national average. Looking at violent crime specifically, Dana Point, CA has a violent crime rate that is 61% lower than the California average and 55% lower than the national average." Dana Point, CA Crime Rates & Statistics

So don't give me your bullshit of demonizing minorities as being subhuman criminals, rapists & drug users.
Are they legal or illegal migrants?

Does your area reflect the US as a whole?

So don't BS us that your area is typical of the rest of America.

http://www.itsgov.com/wp-content/upl...lentcrimes.png

How often do you score own goals?

Paul Markham 08-07-2017 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21938326)
LOL.

Exiting from the TPP? Now the United States has no trading agreement with anyone in Asia. Thankfully China stepped in and took our place. How is that winning?
TPP is proven to have lost jobs. It's far too early to tell if stopping it will lose more jobs.

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Travel bans? Yes, that made us safer didn't it? How many Syrian terrorists have killed Americans on American soil in the past decade?
So allow them in? What about the second generation?

Paul Markham 08-07-2017 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 21938926)
He's a corrupt human being and that's enough for me. There is absolutely nothing credible or honest about that piece of garbage -- other than the fact that I know he's a male.
All US politicians are corrupt. They need the money to get reelected. The problem is it's legal to buy US politicians if you're a business, but not if you're a criminal. The result is the same.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...cal-issues.jpg

http://www.dailydissident.com/wp-con...ORRUPTION.jpeg

But if American voters are too dumb to vote them out, I guess it's what the wanted.

EddyTheDog 08-07-2017 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 21939235)
^^ Can't make an intelligent argument. Resorts to name calling :1orglaugh:1orglaugh Try getting informed.

But you're right, the establishment Repubs are working against him. Swamp creature scum bags. Also there's no evidence of wrongdoing and the Russia story is a hoax. He's doing fine, what's the problem?
He lost the popular vote and the rest of the world thinks he and America is a joke - Other than that he is doing just fine...

Paul Markham 08-08-2017 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 21939271)
He lost the popular vote and the rest of the world thinks he and America is a joke - Other than that he is doing just fine...
Quote:
45 Million Americans Still Stuck Below Poverty Line:
Despite five years of economic recovery, poverty is still stubbornly high in America. More than 45 million people, or 14.5 percent of all Americans, lived below the poverty line last year, the Census Bureau reported on Tuesday
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Among racial and ethnic groups, African Americans had the highest poverty rate, 27.4 percent, followed by Hispanics at 26.6 percent and whites at 9.9 percent. 45.8 percent of young black children (under age 6) live in poverty, compared to 14.5 percent of white children.
This has effected Black Americans worse, so no anti-US diarrhoea from Bladewire.

US wages stagnant. Not accounting for the top 20% most wages in the US are stagnant of falling. Globalization has dragged down wage growth. Millions of manufacturing jobs were lost to Asia, and the backbone industries that built the West's economies were gutted. The loss of these blue-collar jobs forced many workers into lower-paying jobs, thus suppressing wages. We still have only just begun the drive towards automation.







This is a West v Third World phenomena, so no anti-US diarrhoea from Bladewire.

ruff 08-08-2017 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 21939235)
^^ Can't make an intelligent argument. Resorts to name calling :1orglaugh:1orglaugh Try getting informed.

But you're right, the establishment Repubs are working against him. Swamp creature scum bags. Also there's no evidence of wrongdoing and the Russia story is a hoax. He's doing fine, what's the problem?
My intelligent argument is that you are a shitheel troll. Trump has ruined my country and you and your ilk support this fraud. There will come a time when you dumb ass tRump supporters will hide and claim you never backed tRump. You will finally be embarrassed enough take off that stupid red hat. But some of us will remember, we will always remember the ones that attempted to subvert and destroy our country by supporting this unqualified, ignorant bumpkin. No amount of your bullshit is going to justify or defend this orange fuck. Fucktards like you recite the same shit every fucking time with no hard facts to substantiate you doubious claims of tRump greatness. At times we can barely understand what you are saying because all of you have the tRump cock in your mouth. So fuck off.

Rochard 08-08-2017 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21939190)
Your real unemployment is closer to 10% if it were higher there would be more competition for jobs leading to higher wages and more taxes paid. The other points still remain, the effect it has on your crime, taxes and borrowing is devastating.
No, unemployment is in the 4% range.

Rochard 08-08-2017 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21939241)
TPP is proven to have lost jobs. It's far too early to tell if stopping it will lose more jobs.
Where do you get that from? The TPP never went into effect so it's impossible to say it's "proven to lost jobs".

You need to understand that without the TPP we have no effective bargaining with all of Asia, which puts the world's largest economy at a complete disadvantage. This also allowed China to take charge of collective bargaining for ALL of Asia.

Barry-xlovecam 08-08-2017 11:00 AM
The party of NO when assuming power becomes the party of CAN'T -- why are you surprised?

pimpmaster9000 08-08-2017 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21939262)
in my country you go to jail for "lobbying"...plain and simple...

Acepimp 08-08-2017 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ruff (Post 21939757)
Trump has ruined my country and you and your ilk support this fraud... all of you have the tRump cock in your mouth. So fuck off.
OMG really?! Trump ruined the country???

http://www.evelynlim.com/photos/certifieddramaqueen.jpg
Image of Ruff, certified drama queen :1orglaugh

Ruined the country with what, the stock market up 4 trillion dollars, the million new jobs, or the 70% reduction in illegal immigration?? It was no fraud, the people simply rejected Hillary.

What has he done that's so bad that the US is now RUINED? Serious question, since there's no evidence he did anything shady.

Barry-xlovecam 08-08-2017 09:50 PM

ruff 08-08-2017 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 21941047)
OMG really?! Trump ruined the country???

http://www.evelynlim.com/photos/certifieddramaqueen.jpg
Image of Ruff, certified drama queen :1orglaugh

Ruined the country with what, the stock market up 4 trillion dollars, the million new jobs, or the 70% reduction in illegal immigration?? It was no fraud, the people simply rejected Hillary.

What has he done that's so bad that the US is now RUINED? Serious question, since there's no evidence he did anything shady.
Hello again fuckleberry. Go fuck yourself. Keep on sucking that tRump cock asshat. tRump can't even keep out of his own way. You are still reciting Obama accomplishments. Dumb ass. Stock market overvalued, a million new minimum wage jobs, yippee!, Where is the 70% reduction in immigration, oh, you pulled that out of your ass. Keep it up sycophant. Paid troll with cock in mouth.

Paul Markham 08-08-2017 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21939847)
No, unemployment is in the 4% range.
Wage Stagnation.

Paul Markham 08-08-2017 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21939862)
Where do you get that from? The TPP never went into effect so it's impossible to say it's "proven to lost jobs".

You need to understand that without the TPP we have no effective bargaining with all of Asia, which puts the world's largest economy at a complete disadvantage. This also allowed China to take charge of collective bargaining for ALL of Asia.
You can't compete with countries that have a much lower workforce than yours. The effects of this are why wages are stagnating. Removing the one thing that protects your country from this isn't a good thing. What needs to be done is to impose a higher tariff on countries like Mexico, Vietnam Brunei, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Peru, Singapore, etc.

Acepimp 08-09-2017 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ruff (Post 21941116)
Hello again fuckleberry. Go fuck yourself. Keep on sucking that tRump cock asshat. tRump can't even keep out of his own way. You are still reciting Obama accomplishments. Dumb ass. Stock market overvalued, a million new minimum wage jobs, yippee!, Where is the 70% reduction in immigration, oh, you pulled that out of your ass. Keep it up sycophant. Paid troll with cock in mouth.
So, all of Trump's accomplishments are actually because of Obama, illegal immigration isn't really down 70%??

Hey Ruff: You're an idiot. You can't say what Trump has done that's SO bad that the country is ruined, but everything is great because Obama, and I'm a fuckleberry.

Keep resorting to name-calling bro. What are you like 12 years old? It's no wonder you're clueless about politics. Go watch some cartoons, moron.

Or maybe get some facts: DHS Secretary: Number of Illegals Crossing Southern Border Down by Almost 70%

ruff 08-09-2017 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 21941485)
So, all of Trump's accomplishments are actually because of Obama, illegal immigration isn't really down 70%??

Hey Ruff: You're an idiot. You can't say what Trump has done that's SO bad that the country is ruined, but everything is great because Obama, and I'm a fuckleberry.

Keep resorting to name-calling bro. What are you like 12 years old? It's no wonder you're clueless about politics. Go watch some cartoons, moron.

Or maybe get some facts: DHS Secretary: Number of Illegals Crossing Southern Border Down by Almost 70%
Go back to trolling the TeleTubbies forum shitheel.

Acepimp 08-09-2017 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ruff (Post 21941551)
Go back to trolling the TeleTubbies forum shitheel.
^^ Still waiting for any kind of intelligent response. How exactly has Trump ruined the country? Be specific. I anxiously await your response :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Paul Markham 08-09-2017 07:28 AM
If those who are convinced more migrants should be allowed in. Let them pay the extra costs of that.

https://media.nationalpriorities.org...t-revenue2.png

https://media.nationalpriorities.org...15_enacted.png

An extra 10% in taxes should do it.

2MuchMark 08-09-2017 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21939262)
Nice find!

Barry-xlovecam 08-09-2017 07:49 AM
https://diplomacy.state.gov/discover...ues/170606.htm

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The Department?s mission is to shape and sustain a peaceful, prosperous, just, and democratic world and foster conditions for stability and progress for the benefit of the American people and people everywhere. This mission is shared with the USAID, ensuring we have a common path forward in partnership as we invest in the shared security and prosperity that will ultimately better prepare us for the challenges of tomorrow.
SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES

CITIZENS UNITED, APPELLANT v. FEDERAL
ELECTION COMMISSION
on appeal from the united states district court for the district of columbia
[January 21, 2010]

Justice Kennedy delivered the opinion of the Court.
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Modern day movies, television comedies, or skits on Youtube.com might portray public officials or public policies in unflattering ways. Yet if a covered transmission during the blackout period creates the background for candidate endorsement or opposition, a felony occurs solely because a corporation, other than an exempt media corporation, has made the ?purchase, payment, distribution, loan, advance, deposit, or gift of money or anything of value? in order to engage in political speech. 2 U. S. C. §431(9)(A)(i). Speech would be suppressed in the realm where its necessity is most evident: in the public dialogue preceding a real election. Governments are often hostile to speech, but under our law and our tradition it seems stranger than fiction for our Government to make this political speech a crime. Yet this is the statute?s purpose and design.

Some members of the public might consider Hillary to be insightful and instructive; some might find it to be neither high art nor a fair discussion on how to set the Nation?s course; still others simply might suspend judgment on these points but decide to think more about issues and candidates. Those choices and assessments, however, are not for the Government to make. ?The First Amendment underwrites the freedom to experiment and to create in the realm of thought and speech. Citizens must be free to use new forms, and new forums, for the expression of ideas. The civic discourse belongs to the people, and the Government may not prescribe the means used to conduct it.? McConnell , supra , at 341 (opinion of Kennedy, J. ).

The judgment of the District Court is reversed with respect to the constitutionality of 2 U. S. C. §441b?s restrictions on corporate independent expenditures. The judgment is affirmed with respect to BCRA?s disclaimer and disclosure requirements. The case is remanded for further proceedings consistent with this opinion.

It is so ordered.

Hannes 08-09-2017 08:40 AM
I heard that theres a surplus of over $3,2 billion dollars in the Stock market now, not sure if that true or not though


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