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BaldBastard 08-27-2017 12:08 AM

So what happened to the millions of people around the world that were involved in Photographic processing? Every second shop in tourist areas used to process film, and then when digital first came out would print it.

There's none of that any more

According to Paul's theory all those people are now sitting at home out of work? And we never recovered from it.

Bladewire 08-27-2017 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21972671)
OK, you got me. It was the USSR. My point is the US won't start shooting people, it will catch them and return them.

A Wall is the second best option. Passing a law that fines people $20,000 per illegal migrant they employ or rent a house to would remove jobs and homes. They will have no options but to walk back.

1) There are hundreds of tunnels already under the existing walls.

2) There is already 700 miles of border wall, broken in parts with natural borders.

3) Our Southern border with Mexico is over 1,900 miles long.

4) In 2016 Obama increased the fine for hiring illegals in America to $21,563

What is needed is increased border security and high tech monitoring of the border. I live here we know.

The government will not pay the money for manpower and high tech. A wall is the cheapest most innefective deterent and that's what Trump wants, the cheapest most ineffective solution.

Barry-xlovecam 08-27-2017 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 21972715)
So what happened to the millions of people around the world that were involved in Photographic processing? Every second shop in tourist areas used to process film, and then when digital first came out would print it.

There's none of that any more

According to Paul's theory all those people are now sitting at home out of work? And we never recovered from it.

I like that analogy :)

Kodak licensed its trademark to Chinese electronics manufacturers.
Kodak still sells emulsion film and processing chemicals and supplies to the professional market. Fujifilm still sells to the professional market.

The digital cam market exploded -- every smartphone has a digital camera now. New technology brings new jobs. Social Media exists now because of the mobile Internet device. Change is constant -- just don't get left behind -- old story really.

Paul Markham 08-27-2017 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 21972715)
So what happened to the millions of people around the world that were involved in Photographic processing? Every second shop in tourist areas used to process film, and then when digital first came out would print it.

There's none of that any more

According to Paul's theory all those people are now sitting at home out of work? And we never recovered from it.

Some are working, some in low pay jobs, some are unemployed in the 9% which is the real unemployment figures.

Paul Markham 08-27-2017 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21972735)
1) There are hundreds of tunnels already under the existing walls.

2) There is already 700 miles of border wall, broken in parts with natural borders.

3) Our Southern border with Mexico is over 1,900 miles long.

4) In 2016 Obama increased the fine for hiring illegals in America to $21,563

What is needed is increased border security and high tech monitoring of the border. I live here we know.

The government will not pay the money for manpower and high tech. A wall is the cheapest most innefective deterent and that's what Trump wants, the cheapest most ineffective solution.

The tunnels need detecting and closing, the fines should be enough to fund more detection and return policy. Are you saying with 11 million plus that's an acceptable number?

Tasty1 08-27-2017 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 21971797)
what you want to do with them? kill them ? they are here on this planet and their vision of life is a very other. they are working for food and not for a porsche.

and one day also they will be replaced from mashines, because machines are working 24/7.

but til that da comes what are you wanting to do with them?




this is part of the world evolution. if there are no loosers there will be no winners.
what you try to defend here is called communism - we had it and we saw that it does not work.



i am with you - and i tell you what: THE ARABS TOO because they have been smrter as mr. trump ever was. they bought already the half industry of this planet and they will win again because each one of them is born as a business man. each one grow up in souks and knows how to barter.

And than some left people say the terrorism comes cause people don't get equal chances and education. And now the idea that we just must introduce a lower class who will do all the work cause that brings prosperity for the richer. What a great social idea. Maybe the asians slaves fall for it, the arab slaves will take the weapons in the end and take control.
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you are talking about ideology and i talk about the real life.
and your ideology is left from the left because you proclaim the dictatorship of the proletariat - this si NOT FROM TRUMP - this is from karl marx and friedrich engels.
so i think you do not even know on wich side your heart beats and missmatched left and right.



alone the fact that you can afford to live in another country of your choice because the system that you want to destroy gave you the chance for education and making enough money should make you think.

in many of your views you are like paul - doing the opposite of what you say and taking like a communist who still did not understand that evolution is wanting people to compete with each other.
You preach water while you drink wine and you forgot wich system gave you that chance.[/QUOTE]

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You must be bipolar. Doing you care about the environment, about people. But you think only in USD. Saying England / France / Holland has created their problems during the VOC period. And now you start creating that problems yourself in the year 2017. In Holland the left (and also some right political parties) are against for instance polish people that work for less than the income for a dutch man would earn. So, there goes your political views, people don't want that in Holland and i think whole europe thinks the same.

I paid for my onw study, the government didn't. Isn't that great that everybody can get a chance, but you want to keep people as poor as people as long as you can fill your pockets. I don't mind being more social than you and have more realistic ideas. We had the VOC period, but we learnt.

Realy, you have a strange übermensch fixation.


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