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sarettah 09-20-2017 04:54 AM

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ilnjscb 09-20-2017 03:58 PM

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BaldBastard 09-20-2017 04:21 PM

Before the USA dropped any bombs they need to workout what to do about the million+ army Kim has, and that's before extras are called up.

Got half a million troops ready to deploy? because that's what will be needed.

It's rumoured NK has more than 10,000 artillery shells ready to fire at the South, they alone could kill millions and there is basically fucking nothing the USA can do about it.

The next concern is biological and chemical weapons, biological ones would most likely be already deployed to the USA, you bomb NK, expect there deployment.

Dropping multiple nukes on a country surrounded by two nuclear super powers, Russia and China would be suicide.. for the USA and the rest of the world.

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So far the only thing Trump has been doing is selling weapons, I think this whole twitter rant thing has more to do with scaremongering Japan and Sth Korea in to buying nukes from the USA, and that Trump is a total idiot.

Vendzilla 09-20-2017 04:29 PM

Here's the problem, Bill Clinton gave NK 4 billion dollars to keep them from developing nuclear weapons, I guess that idiot we use to have in office thought his plan on doing the same with Iran would work out better?

The Clinton Nuclear Deal with Pyongyang: Road Map to Progress or Dead End Street? | The Heritage Foundation

pimpmaster9000 09-20-2017 04:35 PM

how about just leaving them alone LOL they are nuking up because the USA wont leave them the fuck alone...are people really discussing nuking a country because you cant leave them alone?

pack your armies, go home...they will calm down...you cant win...let it go LOL

NatalieK 09-20-2017 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22005875)
Even if NK nukes someone, nuking NK back would be a real disaster and create more problems than it solves.

Even 1 nuke in NK would have devastating consequences for surrounding countries. Hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, of survivors would be displaced, putting incredible strain on SK and surrounding countries.

What's left of the army will form new armies, new problems, new fighting, new shit.

The fallout from a single nuke would kill hundreds of thousands more or at best, reduce the lifespan of millions of people in surrounding areas. And don't forget - you can count on your chances of getting cancer going up.

You cannot scare Kim Jung Un into submission. Trump's STUPID threats against Un do nothing but make the US look ridiculous.

What Trump needs to do is consult with real experts and get a super-qualified ambassador to NK to talk with Un and work out some kind of deal, relax tensions, and find ways to normalize things between NK and SK, and NK and the world, through calm, normal, diplomatic means.

exactly this.

In honesty, if Trump wasnīt Donald Trump, this would all be sorted now. NK just want to toy, thatīs what theyīre doing. Theyīre sick of the US thinking they have world power, every country has itīs right to have a nuke if just one other country does.

Itīs so easy to create division and itīs happened too many times since Trump & Brexit. Trump really is an egotistic idiot :2 cents:

NatalieK 09-20-2017 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22007895)
The next concern is biological and chemical weapons, biological ones would most likely be already deployed to the USA, you bomb NK, expect there deployment.

i was concerned with this with ISIS, but seems it hasnīt taken this route at least, scary stuff! :(

BaldBastard 09-20-2017 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22007909)
Here's the problem, Bill Clinton gave NK 4 billion dollars to keep them from developing nuclear weapons, I guess that idiot we use to have in office thought his plan on doing the same with Iran would work out better?

The Clinton Nuclear Deal with Pyongyang: Road Map to Progress or Dead End Street? | The Heritage Foundation

Hang on

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeli...uclear_program

you want to blame anyone for NK getting nukes... look at Russia, Simply because NK was able to offer cash, cash for brains, cash for parts at a time Russia was in turmoil and that trade continues today..

4 billion was nothing compared to what else has been spent, it was worth a shot.. failed but worth the try.

bronco67 09-20-2017 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22005875)
Even if NK nukes someone, nuking NK back would be a real disaster and create more problems than it solves.

Even 1 nuke in NK would have devastating consequences for surrounding countries. Hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, of survivors would be displaced, putting incredible strain on SK and surrounding countries.

What's left of the army will form new armies, new problems, new fighting, new shit.

The fallout from a single nuke would kill hundreds of thousands more or at best, reduce the lifespan of millions of people in surrounding areas. And don't forget - you can count on your chances of getting cancer going up.

You cannot scare Kim Jung Un into submission. Trump's STUPID threats against Un do nothing but make the US look ridiculous.

What Trump needs to do is consult with real experts and get a super-qualified ambassador to NK to talk with Un and work out some kind of deal, relax tensions, and find ways to normalize things between NK and SK, and NK and the world, through calm, normal, diplomatic means.

I think a lot of people don't realize something. I may be wrong about this, but I would go further than what you described and say that a nuclear battle on any scale would stop civilization dead in its tracks. I'm not saying it would be the end of the world, but it would be a different world drastically for years after -- or forever. Or maybe if it wasn't a big enough event to wipe out lots of people, it would bring on end times somewhere down the road soon after.

Nuclear weapons are there to not be used....ever. Even an asshole like Putin knows that.

Trump is dying to use some tactical nukes because he thinks they're cool.

Sarn 09-21-2017 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 22008047)
Nuclear weapons are there to not be used....ever. Even an asshole like Putin knows that.
Trump is dying to use some tactical nukes because he thinks they're cool.

yesterday Putin test nuke missile


Vendzilla 09-21-2017 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22007981)
Hang on

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeli...uclear_program

you want to blame anyone for NK getting nukes... look at Russia, Simply because NK was able to offer cash, cash for brains, cash for parts at a time Russia was in turmoil and that trade continues today..

4 billion was nothing compared to what else has been spent, it was worth a shot.. failed but worth the try.

I love it when people post links that they failed to read

BaldBastard 09-21-2017 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22008359)
I love it when people post links that they failed to read

You shouldn't talk about yourself so harshly, I posted the timeline of events to show that the NK problem has been developing a long time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeli...uclear_program

Most of Clintons ground work was done under Kim Il Sung, no one foresaw then that his son would be 10,000x more nutty. Do note Japan gave them a billion as well to build reactors.

Vendzilla 09-21-2017 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22008401)
You shouldn't talk about yourself so harshly, I posted the timeline of events to show that the NK problem has been developing a long time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeli...uclear_program

Most of Clintons ground work was done under Kim Il Sung, no one foresaw then that his son would be 10,000x more nutty. Do note Japan gave them a billion as well to build reactors.

How fucking stupid do you have to be to not see that you are offering up every conceivable excuse to explain the truth that giving a country 4 billion to not build a nuke and 20 years later the have them was a mistake?

You probably think the deal with Iran will keep them from developing nukes, you really are a fucking idiot.

You posted a link that explained the timeline after you mentioned Russian envolvment when Russia was only mentioned twice and not for helping them get nukes like you posted. Again, you're a fucking moron!

If you're going to bash someone, get the fucking facts straight!

BaldBastard 09-21-2017 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22008435)
How fucking stupid do you have to be to not see that you are offering up every conceivable excuse to explain the truth that giving a country 4 billion to not build a nuke and 20 years later the have them was a mistake?

You probably think the deal with Iran will keep them from developing nukes, you really are a fucking idiot.

You posted a link that explained the timeline after you mentioned Russian envolvment when Russia was only mentioned twice and not for helping them get nukes like you posted. Again, you're a fucking moron!

If you're going to bash someone, get the fucking facts straight!

Actually the question should be how fucking stupid are you not to read the article you posted, or are you TOO FUCKING stupid to realise that?

Go back and read that first you numb fuck...


And then.. FUCKING MORON (Russki are you?? )

Look at the issues today, NK has been developing nuclear technology for a LONG time, in many ways they are world leaders in it.

But miraculously they have advanced their rocket technology 1000 fold in a very short period of time.

Clinton or Obama sold them that did they?

Vendzilla 09-21-2017 06:25 PM

Yep a long time, like since Clinton was in office.
Also, the thing about Japan giving them a reactor? You really think that means shit? Big difference between fision and fusion .
But you're too fucking stupid to know that. One gets warm, the other goes boom.

Fuck, you don't have a fucking clue do you?

BaldBastard 09-21-2017 08:30 PM

Yet again your showing you never bothered to read the article you linked let alone understand the time and conditions that it was written under. Go back there with someone else and ask them to read it to you and explain it to you with a clear mind if that's possible.

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The one person who has escalated the NK problem more than anyone else in history is.. Donald Trump, and through his stupid fucking temperament, lack of political experience and total lack of understanding in Nk.. is leading the whole world to nuclear war.

Building a nuke for NK when they sit on one of the biggest mountains of uranium in the world has only ever been a matter of time, its not really that difficult for them to achieve, rogue scientist's from MANY countries have contributed to that since the 1950's.

Someone in the past few years has provided them with rocket technology which takes this from a local problem to a worldwide one.

Here's a good starting point to understand which country in the world that might of been.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hwasong-14

America is not greater and the world is not safer with Bozo the clown trying to run it.

bronco67 09-21-2017 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22009503)
Yet again your showing you never bothered to read the article you linked let alone understand the time and conditions that it was written under. Go back there with someone else and ask them to read it to you and explain it to you with a clear mind if that's possible.

Don't try to make him understand context and perspective. You'll have better luck teaching a dog how to do a card trick.

cosis 09-21-2017 10:37 PM

http://www.trbimg.com/img-594d7b77/t...korea-20170623

Vendzilla 09-22-2017 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 22009505)
Don't try to make him understand context and perspective. You'll have better luck teaching a dog how to do a card trick.

Hey shit for brains, what did I say that was wrong, not one fucking thing!

I started with Clinton gave them 4 billion and maybe Obama shouldn't have done that with Iran given that it DIDN'T FUCKING WORK

You're a fucking moron, always will be

Truth and facts over context and perspective every fucking time

RedFred 09-22-2017 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22010471)
Hey shit for brains, what did I say that was wrong, not one fucking thing!

I started with Clinton gave them 4 billion

Wrong.

Politifact - Viral image wrongly blames Bill Clinton for giving North Korea the means to make nuclear weapons and $5 Billion



Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22010471)
and maybe Obama shouldn't have done that with Iran given that it DIDN'T FUCKING WORK


Wrong again. It was $1.7 billion and it was money that had been already owed to them for years.

Donald Trump is right: The U.S. did pay Iran $1.7 billion in cash - LA Times

Bladewire 09-22-2017 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22010471)
Hey shit for brains, what did I say that was wrong, not one fucking thing!

I started with Clinton gave them 4 billion and maybe Obama shouldn't have done that with Iran given that it DIDN'T FUCKING WORK

You're a fucking moron, always will be

Truth and facts over context and perspective every fucking time

Listen here you morbidly obese hemorrhoid infested fat fuck.

READ

THE

ARTICLE

You're making yourself look stupid. No offense

Vendzilla 09-24-2017 04:16 PM

Um, read your article, it says 4 billion was given to NK, whose GDP for this year is about 16 billion, where exactly am I wrong, answer no where.....


Quote:

Wrong again. It was $1.7 billion and it was money that had been already owed to them for years.

Donald Trump is right: The U.S. did pay Iran $1.7 billion in cash - LA Times
LMAO, guess you missed the part in your article where Obama was paying for the release of hostages. If you think that's the right thing to do is to pay every time a government takes a hostage, please stay out of this country!


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