Makeup another lie that one's easily disproved.

Manafort wiretapping started in 2014... long before the campaigning began and Trump was considered a sideshow freak for the following 18 months.

You lazy motherfucker it is idiots like you that have destroyed the Democratic Party. Bitch look around you - do you call that winning? Get off your lazy ass, stop posting so much, and do something. What the fuck were you doing November 9th when Trump won? I was at the fuckin Javits center asshole. I watched Clinton with my own eyes. I wonder if your stupid ass even voted. You and your lazy kind have done more for the republicans than the Koch brothers.

It is no surprise you are too stupid to know I supported Clinton. Why don't you change sides now? if you were predicting Trump would win in 2020 then I might believe he'd lose.

I read the news every day. Just like I did during the last 3 presidencies. What wins elections is votes, not NYT articles and sipping fuckin lattes. When the house goes blue in 2018 then we'll talk. Until then this is all useless circle jerk bullshit.

^^^ TrIgGeReD! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Seems by the election result any information gathered was not passed on to the campaign.

It's obvious now they could of called out Trump at anytime, but legal due process prevented them.

Here is Trump tweet :

That is not true ... fake news ....

Manafort was wiretapped twice, once in 2014 and the other in 2016 ...

Trump has NOT been wiretapped ..

Now, if Manafort spoke to Trump, then yes Trump could have been recorderd...

I was , when I called Manafort to offer him russian brides !!!! :upsidedow

Chumparooski is using funds from his re-election campaign to pay for his and jr's defense. So keep buying those hats and giving money! The Billionaire needs it!

Manafort was working out of Trump tower. Mueller was investigating Manafort and then he was replaced by Comey and the investigation stopped until he became Trump's campaign manager which is where the new convenient wiretap and reinvigorated "investigation" comes in. They could have taken him down any time during those 2 years but didn't. The reason being is because he was working on the Obama Admin's behalf in Ukraine. Podesta Group likely handed him the job and is why they got the million dollar kickback and why they are/were scrambling to file disclosures.

They didn't call him out because there was nothing there. They had a fake dossier they cooked up and a meeting with 2 people who worked with the company that created the fake dossier. That's it. The only evidence period.

Right... just like Obama is a Muslim and Mexico is building a wall...

All behold the OWC has the inside scoope.. he read it on 4chan!

50 Lefty's committing mass suicide soon

NeRD!! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

No, Trump never said this. On March 4th 2017 Trump Tweeted "Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!".

Kinda different.

I completely agree.

I disagree. The faster the truth comes out and the sooner Justice is served, the better.

You're being duped. What voters have you personally swayed? If none.... if over ten, then congrats, believe whatever cuckoo shit you want.

They hate it when you tell it like it is. They are a very delusional bitter and nasty bunch who have been hanging their hats on Trump being indicted on some type of collusion crime. Poor bastards are STILL beating that dead horse lol

What I, and any smart democrat fears, is not only does this not touch Trump, but it reflects poorly on the Obama admin at a time when republicans control congress.

Right now the WSJ, a publication none of these boneheads read since they only read far left crap, is saying hearings need to be held that a candidate from an out of power party was wiretapped. This will give Manafort courage and turn the independents away from Dems.

Much smarter would have been to go after turnout, but that takes effort, something the Bernie Bros don't want to put out.

There IS a war in the dem party and I know which side I'm on

If he broke the law indict him.

He didn't register as a foreign agent, and he was one.

Look at it this way,

Hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people, were convinced that Hillary had some kind of CP thing going on in a Pizza Parlour (Pizzagate), among other things.

Someone out there, treated everyone like the idiots that they are, and walked right over them.

If this isn't talked. If people do nothing at all, the same thing can happen again.

And, there's no reason at all why it would be Trump or another republican that could do it.

Think about it, talk about it. Let the truth come out and the scumbags go to prison, but don't let it happen again.

But what if it turns out to be true?

I know you're a Trump Supporter, but here me out. What if you think he's the worlds nicest guy, but it turns out that he and others broke the law and lied to you about it in order to win? What if he lied to you about it? Would you still have all kinds of love for him?

The flip side of the coin for you to ponder.

I know you're a Hillary Supporter, but hear me out. What if you think she's the worlds nicest lady, but it turns out that Hillary, Wasserman Schultz and the DNC and others broke the law to derail Bernie's campaign and lied to you about it in order to win? What if she lied to you about it? Would you still have all kinds
of love for her?

I'm so tired of this already.

We had a dozen investigations into Hillary Clinton. We knew in both cases that there was no crime committed. With the emails we knew no crime was committed; There is no law that says the Secretary of State cannot store or send classified material from a private email server - in fact, this is common both at the State Department and Congress. (Oddly enough, we haven't investigated any one else about how they sent out classified emails even though we know dozens used the same exact system.) For some reason we had to investigate Benghazi multiple times. Not sure why, because the Secretary of State clearly didn't break any laws nor did anyone else.

On the other hand we have a President in office who clearly had help from a foreign government. A political candidate with zero political experience lied about everything and managed to defy logic and all of the polls and somehow won an election much to everyone's surprise? At the same time we have the Russians who hacked the DNC to release information, we have Russia buying political ads on Facebook, We have dozens and dozens of secret meetings between the Russian government the Trump people and if that isn't enough the Trump people lied about all of it - including lying under oath about meetings with the Russian government. At the very exact moment we have Trump's son setting up a secret line of communication with the Russian government?

Think about this for a moment... Someone with no political experience at all is setting up a secret line of communication with the Russian government. We have the entire State Department to guide the president in such matters and he is going to ignore EVERYONE because "he knows better"? Does anyone really think Trump knows better? Really?

We have a president with no experience who clearly is fucking everything up, with evidence every time we turn around that he got help from a foreign government... He gave his first speech at the UN and pretty much threatened to destroy another country for no reason at all. He has the lowest approval rating of any President in modern history, and has accomplished NOTHING at all.

This is worst case scenario. It cannot get any worst than this.

in this case NO ! trump won by NO VOTERS

i really don´t understand that red hats argument always with the majority.
how can the majority agree with him when 2/3 of the citizens ( and THIS IS THE MAJORITY) did not even go to vote ?

explain me this maths.

Manafort was staying in Trump Tower and that was campaign headquarters so it's safe to assume he's correct.

Neither did the Podesta Group one of his partners in crime. They also didn't disclose it in filings.

And yet today there is still yet more information coming forward....

Now we have found out using social media the Russian government sponsored Pro Trump rallies and anti Clinton rallies.

Russian groups organized pro-Trump rallies on Facebook: report | TheHill

Every time we turn around we are finding out the Russians did something else.

It's painfully obvious that they've caught Manafort doing something very bad, and he will be facing jail time. They will say "If you know anything about Trump / Russian collusion, you need to tell us or you will spend decades in jail". We already know there was collusion; Jared was talking to the Russians about using a secret Russian facility in the United States so they could communicate in secret. WTF?

This is going to crash down.

Great, wonderful, magical. Then let's official charge them with lying under oath. At the same time, we can charge everyone else who lied under oath starting with Jeff Sessions. In fact, it's fucking stunning that the leader of the Justice Department has lied under oath, been caught multiple times, and is still allowed to keep his job.

I can care less about Podesta. Lock his ass up and throw away the key. But we need to start holding EVERYONE accountable for their actions.

It's based on the majority of people who voted. If only 2/3 of the country votes, those 2/3 decide who is president.

Simple math.

We don't have a law that requires you to vote. If you choose not to vote, you have no say in who runs the country. If a person didn't vote and doesn't like who won, they should blame themselves first.

Yep, just like everything else, you right wing conspiracy nuts always know the "real" truth..because Alex Jones has the inside scoope!

And now we find out Manafort wanted to give weekly briefings to a Russian about the Trump Campaign and how it was doing - and most likely what it needed help with.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.276ec4ec4dae

Why the fuck would Manafort - or anyone from the Trump Campaign - want to give Oleg Deripaska, an aluminum magnate, weekly briefings about the Trump Campaign?

And for the love of fucking god, why would anyone discuss this in an email?

Now that the shoe is on the other foot -- the then tea partistas now alt-right trolls whine like crybabies. It would be amusing if it wasn't so pathetic ...

that is correct - but it does not make the fact smaller that trump is NOT voted by the majority of the citizens.
he is not even voted from the majority of voters.

he is there because many people did not go to vote because the media saw hillary in front. and he is there because of a very strange an undemocratic election process what gives even the one with less votes the chance to win.

right or not right ?

Then will you promise me, here and now, to do BOTH? If this is important to you, fine, but will you also try to influence votes in swing states by calling, or even going there to take people to polls? Write real paper letters to senior citizens who didn't vote? Encourage younger voters to register and vote?

That way you're covered in case this Russia thing doesn't work out.

Mark isn't from the US. If he did any of the sort then he would be a foreigner meddling in a US election. :1orglaugh

But this is the way the Republican party operates. I used to be a hardcore Republican until the Whitewater investigation. During the Whitewater investigation they asked questions that were completely related to the investigation, and at a certain point they were just fishing - looking for anything that might make the president look bad. They didn't find anything, and all they got was forcing the President into a corner asking personal questions about his sex life that never should have been asked in the first place. It was disgusting.

Then with Hillary they've painted her as being corrupt and a criminal, when in fact over a dozen investigations has proven no wrong doing and no charges. These were obviously nothing more than witch hunts with the intention of making Hillary Clinton look bad. This is not how our government is supposed to operate.

Now we have this Russian investigation. We already know there was collusion between the Trump Campaign in the Russian government. This is no longer open to debate. We know that Jared was talking to the Russian government about communicating in secret. We have secret meetings all over the place, Manfort offering weekly briefings, secret meetings in the Indian Ocean, leaders of foreign countries secretly flying into the US for yet more secret meetings.

It's pretty obvious what happened. This is going to play itself out. Just today the investigation outlined thirteen areas were they want further documentation from the White House.

This is going to be bigger than Watergate.

You know nothing of the sort. All you know is the same media sources that lied to you all during the election that has lied since the election, claims some anonymous sources are saying this and that.

The article you posted about Manafort supposedly selling weekly updates. So you think he's willing to sell information to some Russian billionaire but not his partner in crime John Podesta? BTW your source.. John Podesta is a contributor for the Washington Post..... Maybe he's the anonymous source? https://www.washingtonpost.com/pr/wp...=.f21fef76ccd8

He's been getting hammered by folks like me on WaPo linking him to Manafort.

I have said many times that I think the electoral college that we use to elect the president is outdated and actually encourages corruption and lower voter turnout. If it were up to me, the presidential election would be just like all the others. The person with the most votes wins.

We would never have anything other than a democrat President. Ever. NYC and LA would be the decider of the election every time.