The means and motive behind obtaining the wiretap. It's pretty obvious now there was a concerted effort on the administrations part to make this fake Russia dossier (fake evidence)/collusion (fake evidence/Manafort) theme stick. It didn't win them the election so they double down to try to nullify. It's going to blow up in their face.

Mueller isn't stupid. He isn't going to go down in history as the man who tried to unseat a President based on a fake dossier and crimes committed by someone other than the President. Especially when there's an obvious concerted effort on the opposing party's part to try and make that happen even going so far as to creating fake evidence, trying to sell said evidence and collectively lying to cover their tracks. Again the pattern of their actions is what will get them in the end.

There is no middle ground here. Either definitive jury convincing evidence of collusion is provided or the democratic party is done.

Have you received your Russia immigration papers yet?

You are a big fucking dummy

what does this guy have to do to convince you he's a crook and everyone around him is a crook

I guess there are folks that defended Hitler and Mussolini till the end

see you at the Nuremberg trials

Have you received you DNC daily directives yet? I guess not if that's all you have. Budget cuts must be getting to them.

I don't think I've heard big dummy since elementary.

You are saying you want to go to war with Russia? You ate a special kind of thick.

Again there was no scandal, there was no crime, just you nacy boy Republicans reaching for anything to distract from Trumps corruption.

There is a long list of these..

Benghazi,
Hillary emails
Obamas a Muslim
Obamas birth certificate
Trump tower wiretaps and unmasking

You guys just lie and try to shift blame for your jesus god's corruption, its why the only link you can come up with is a far right nutter website..

We are already at war with Russia,.

Well said :thumbsup

I did not say that at all.

Instead, I said that if we find out Russia worked with a US candidate to get him elected, then that would pretty much be an act of war.

If this was true and Russia did work directly with Trump's campaign to get him elected, what do you think our response would be? We surely wouldn't say "Well, don't do that again". If is true it would be massive.

No, that is not what I said.

The original investigation started before Trump started his campaign, and the original investigation started before Manafort worked on Trump's campaign.

However, since the start of the investigation we've learned that Manafort was offering weekly briefings about Trump's campaign directly to the Russians.

No, that is not what I said. I said originally Manafort's illegal activity had nothing to do with Trump. Again, Manafort was under investigation before Trump was running for office and before Manafort was his campaign manager.

Manfort would still be under investigation or charged (or in prison for the rest of his life) even if Trump never ran for President. While Manafort was under investigation, he began to work for Trump.

Stop putting words in my mouth. The original investigation was not political at all; The original investigation started long before Trump ran for office.

The problem is there a percentage of the population who believes in this crap no matter what. One fucker went so far as to arm himself and showed up at a pizza joint to investigate some stupid rumor about the DNC.

I have a friend of mine who hated Obama - with a passion. He talked about how horrible the economy was with our 4.8% unemployment. Unemployment went down to 4.4% under Trump and suddenly our economy is fucking magical. Sorry, that doesn't fly.

You are, that is obvious.

You want war; you constantly ride Trump for not doing more.

How do you feel about Obama using taxpayer money to try and influence elections in Israel? Here are a few more for you that Obama and Hillary interfered with.
Kenya
Macedonia
Libya
Honduras
Egypt