It is much more complicated and sanctions are one of the methods of overtaking country, economy and market if they deny doing what MMF ordered them at first. This is exactly the reason why Kim is investing in weapons, otherwise, they will end like any other country not capable defending itself from the much stronger enemy (Serbia, Iraq, Libya, Syria...).Incredible that there are still people falling into the bad guy story after decades of brutal lies and failures. I believe that every country should allow people to vote, only if they pass IQ test.

Is this a joke or are you being serious right now?



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I hope they use it for food.

Stay safe over there.

Ray
Hardlinks.org

We sometimes disagree but I completely agree with you here and I'm sorry you went through that, from one person to another. Especially during that time there was little accountability. You were one of the strong ones, obviously but there were weak ones you must remember. People who did not deserve what happened.

Political dynasties end when the people revolt.
The people of North Korea are in support or are acquiescing to the Kim Dynasty.
Kim threatens the only superpower in the world and his people will pay the price -- too fucking bad.

If Kim was not constantly threatening aggression in his corner of Asia -- the US would not (or should not) interfere.

The short version. yes.

I remember a guy in a shop cutting a piece of pork to show me what he could buy with his "salary" it could fit on the top of a knife...golf ball sized piece of pork...imposing sanctions on starving people is cruel and unusual torture...its so easy for the politicians abroad...they just say the words to gain political points and they are detached from the crime because they do not have to look at it...100 beatings over somebody elses ass hurt nothing at all...

the biggest lie ever is "the sanctions are not on food" LOL...it does not matter if you can not buy the food in the first place and if you can not distribute the food because there is no petrol...

this gives power to dictators...the more you sanction them the stronger they grow...it is not the dictator who is punishing you, it is the USA...the USA knows this too well...each time they mention sanctions they know fully well Kim wont feel them at all...there is not a single doubt about this...

Is there one case in the history when sanctions actually had any other effect apart from making life yet even more miserable for the regular population?

This whole North Korean charade is absolutely uncalled for, among with more troops to Afghanistan already the second major foreign policy fail of the current administration.

a better question would be is there one example in history where sanctions did not strengthen the dictator...and an even better one would be why governments impose sanctions if they know fully well only the weak will be punished and the strong rewarded...you will then come to the conclusion that sanctions are a great way to prolong wars and conflicts...tumble a country in to chaos by silencing the opposition and moderates...making the radicals come out of the woodwork..."preparing meat" before frying it...

Yes South Africa ...

If Kim wants to make his people pawns in a game and sacrifice them -- I really don't give a fuck how they die.

Revolt or fight and die ...

you volunteering to be on the front lines?

looking to go on a rampage and shoot some kids or blow up some old ladies?

don't drink the Koolaid

it is not kim who is imposing the sanctions...it is the USA...it is the USA who is sacrificing them...pretending it is kim who is doing it is about as micro penis as an argument can get...

also sanctions give direct support to dictators...you see, you silence their opposition...anybody with an argument against the dictator now has no argument...anybody who supports the dictator now has an argument...

I know mobsters who would refuse to take revenge on a persons family and friends because it was below their dignity...the USA has no such class...

Time for talking is done. Starve them out -- lay siege.
Don't send ANY ground troops.
Did I ever FUCKING EVER say send troops? Fuck no ...

So says the guy from the country that got it's ass beaten to a pulp.

You are right thought the civilians suffer the most but the people are the government -- if you are powerless to change it -- tough shit.

Why exactly should they cower to your demands?

What act did they do that gives you the right to cause children in a far off land to die of starvation...or other horrible ways?

what exactly is wrong with you?

not only Norks...but do you know how many South Koreans and other people would die for your fantasy of jacking off and watching dead people on the news?

soon everybody will have bacteria because it will be the only way to keep invaders away...tough shit :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

enjoy the future :thumbsup

Then make changes in YOUR country. Instead of spewing hatred and discourse, how about trying to find commonalities with other people from other countries? Sometimes, its just the small things that help inspire change.

We all die eventually ...
So, you support bioterrorism then? POS

Were you active in the rape camps with other Serb trash?

why should anybody change because the likes of bill clinton say so? you must be insane LOL...

american, LOL...we have our own lives...I know this confuses you...but it is so...we are not obliged to do shit your "lesser of 2 evils" government tells us :2 cents:

I support what ever it takes to keep invaders away...serial invader and nuke dropper USA will never ever leave the world alone unless the world makes it...fighting with armies is useless because it is a game of catch up...fighting with nukes/bacteria/chemicals makes more sense...


nobody forced you to be the klingon empire...you guys could have just stayed the fuck at home and minded your own business :2 cents:

Well live in a third world shit-hole like you do your animosity is understandable. LOSER!

The world is our home thus the world is our business. That is the present reality and what you would like reality to be is not of any import. What you think about America is not of any import. What you predict for the future of America is not of any import. You are not of any import.

Nobody forced North Korea to invade South Korea in a bid to impose communism on people that didn't want it. They could have just stayed the fuck home and minded their own business.

Do you honestly believe that South Korea would be better off right now if the UN had stayed home and North Korea won?

yes I honestly believe this...the commies would have taken over...millions would still be alive...they would have done the same vietnam did...move to capitalism later...they would never have been nuclear...they would not hate the west and the USA...they would be a country that does not give a shit...also vietnam and every other place the USA invaded would have been much better off...no question about it...

You're delusional and your sense of reasoning is corrupt. The millions that might have been saved by no war would have died of starvation or in prison camps.

BTW the US did not invade. It was the UN and they were responding to North Korea invading South Korea. Why are you such a hypocrite?

first off your reasoning is corrupt...

millions died in the war AND millions died after the war...

if there was no war, millions would not have died in the war AND there would be no reason for the kim/sung/whatever his shit name was to be so extreme...there would be no reason for death camps...there would be no reason for sanctions...there would be no reason to build nukes and armies and brainwash the people...

also communism is no reason to invade...I lived in a commie country and I know and you do not...it was not bad at all...not perfect by far but no reason for war...the UN is a puppet...we all know the USA invaded...

North Korea was divided from South Korea by the Soviets and the US after WW2.
Any idiot knows that (I thought).
The North a *people's state* ruled by its communist party as a totalitarian state -- Stalinist more or less.

We all know how that worked out ...

Kim's Shop of Terror

Kim threatens the world -- what the fuck do you expect will happen?

I'll say it to you one more time and then be done with you because your only purpose in life is to trash the USA and you change your reasoning at will to do so:

North Korea was the invader.

Why can't you get that through your sick demented skull?

I would send a squadron of drones in and destroy all of his palaces and launch sites

and thats exactly why I'm not the President

whatever Trump decides will be the exact wrong choice

you can not invade yourself :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

the USA on the other hand flew the fuck over half the planet to invade <----notice this word


its what you guys do...look at all these "liberations" for "goodwill and humanity" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

https://williamblum.org/images/uploa...ntions_map.png

Ok child. Back to your colouring books. You're clearly not ready for adult conversation.

At least on the internet you can ignore retards like crucifissio. But what if you had to get a job and end up having to be around someone like that for 8 hours a day? It's like just making sense would get any conversation escalated real quick, and the mother-fucker claims to know karate or something... Is there even one positive thing about having a daytime job?

I am such a pleasant person, I hate to be mean... But fuck I hate muslims.

Get into a taxi, the driver is listening to some bs ramadan tape going on about benefits of dehydrating yourself all day long. What do you do? Pull up a nature journal article on the subject, try to educate the poor bastard. Right? Not unless you want to fight the cunt who's willing to take your life away because you disrespected his stupid beliefs...

Dumb fucks.

Isn't it possible that some of those weapons will end up in the hands of one of those jihadists groups? What then?

That fat Asian Stalin has to go :2cents

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http://www.quickmeme.com/img/fb/fb48...deff5bc8f5.jpg

A country can not invade itself...Korea can't invade Korea...it's not invasion it is internal struggle...the USA flying the fuck over half the world and invading is however invasion...get over it, the USA invaded and nobody else...it's what the USA does...invades...

Then you better get over to wikipedia and make some edits:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War

There are probably a lot of history texts that you'll want to be editing too.

Apparently you know better than everyone else.

As for the US and nobody else, here are the countries that came to aid of South Korea to help them get rid of the "internally struggling non invaders" from North Korea.

United States
United Kingdom
Canada
Turkey
Australia
Philippines
New Zealand
Thailand
Ethiopia
Greece
France
Colombia
Belgium
South Africa
Netherlands
Luxembourg

That's a lot of countries you have to hate now for picking on your beloved communists.


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It's not about beloved communists it's about millions of dead...Korea can not invade Korea regardless of some wiki article...the un is a puppet..they sided with the USA for every invasion like the bunch of useless buttlickers they are... boogyman Russia is out to get them so they need the USA LOL what a protection racket...

USIS is the cancer of the world...

Then go to wikipedia and set the article straight since you know better than everyone else.

More people have died at the hands of their own communist leaders than have ever died in all US efforts to stop to stop the spread of communism. 40-70 million Chinese died under Mao without war and without US invasion. That makes him the worst mass murderer in history. Then there was Stalin, Pol Pot, Castro, Guevara, etc. Yet you somehow disagree with the US trying to stop more of the same.

Communism is the cancer of the world.

And you are one fucked up piece of shit.




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Any thoughts from the Russians on how NK managed to expedite their missile program so quickly this year? Or why Kim used a binary VX to kill his brother? That's the assassins weapon of choice isn't it, never realised NK was in the assassin game that much.

Puttys hands are all over this, I wonder how long before he steps in and "saves" the world.

America would almost forgive him of his sins?

my2cents

correction, the worst mass murder in history was done by capitalists...80 million starved to death just in india by the british because they forced them to plant opium instead of rice...150mil wiped out in the americas...countless deaths in africa easily in the 100-s of millions...

you act like capitalism of the time was roses and chocolates?? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

in that region <----concentrate

and in that time <---- double concentrate

capitalism was nothing more than exploitation <----super concentrate

put the above in one thought...and ponder over it...

you keep presenting the USA as some busy-body-do-gooders LOL you are insane...the USA has invaded more than the roman empire, dropped more bombs than all world wars combined, directly killed millions of civilians and indirectly even more...the USA is literally the klingon empire...

It clearly is not advisable to get on the wrong side of the most powerful country the world has ever known and that is reality.

small countries yes...they will nuke up eventually...technology advances for everybody not just americans...I know this confuses you...but it is so...

enjoy the war profits while you can you high school drop out that could not score a better job than being an invading merc :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Money 6 billion $ ($6 000 000 000) from trade NK-China + Iran financing + many specialists from Russia and Ukraine and stolen equipment and technology.