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nico-t 10-04-2017 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22025047)
You are all over the place like a crazy fucking loon bouncing off the walls

you just described yourself since Trump announced he was going to run for president... mind you, that's all day every day, for over 2 years, you're in this crazy obsessed state.... Holy shit. You should really take a break.

crockett 10-04-2017 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 22025063)
you just described yourself since Trump announced he was going to run for president... mind you, that's all day every day, for over 2 years, you're in this crazy obsessed state.... Holy shit. You should really take a break.

Says the Dutch guy who is in every US politics topic and has a avatar with pepe the frog. Perhaps you should join your dutch brotherhood and worry about them Muslims living in govt housing with you.. Instead of spending so much time on American politics.

RedFred 10-04-2017 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22025061)
He's not a right winger. Never even crossed my mind. I stated the next morning he was going to be a liberal gunning down conservatives and I stick by that.. Did he act alone? I highly doubt it and that's where the looking at other clues comes in.


Sounds like a right winger to me.


Friend of Vegas shooter says he was ?intelligent, conservative, guarded? ? and devoted to gun rights

Matt 26z 10-04-2017 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22025089)

If he was devoted to gun rights he would have recognized that gunning down hundreds of people from a hotel window would likely strain those very gun rights that he loved.

Something is missing.

I'm starting to really question the lone wolf narrative. This guy may have been set up or involved in something with unintended consequences.

RedFred 10-04-2017 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22025109)
If he was devoted to gun rights he would have recognized that gunning down hundreds of people from a hotel window would likely strain those very gun rights that he loved.

Something is missing.

I'm starting to really question the lone wolf narrative. This guy may have been set up or involved in something with unintended consequences.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

crockett 10-04-2017 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22025109)
If he was devoted to gun rights he would have recognized that gunning down hundreds of people from a hotel window would likely strain those very gun rights that he loved.

Something is missing.

I'm starting to really question the lone wolf narrative. This guy may have been set up or involved in something with unintended consequences.

Yes, something was missing, the samething you're missing. It's called sanity.

Matt 26z 10-04-2017 02:11 PM

The media is now certain that he used a bump fire stock. Yet evidence grows that it wasn't.


thommy 10-04-2017 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22025109)
If he was devoted to gun rights he would have recognized that gunning down hundreds of people from a hotel window would likely strain those very gun rights that he loved.

Something is missing.

I'm starting to really question the lone wolf narrative. This guy may have been set up or involved in something with unintended consequences.

you would not be the brainwashed as we all know you if you would not search for a reason to blame the liberals for that or find a conspiracy theory.

i know one guy what makes a lot of money with a few websites just with hoaxes and conspiracy BS (yes there is a complete industry out there focused on honks like you) he have a team around him what is just there to photoshop original pictures and finding new lies for his websites. he calls them "the lie-finder team".
if you need a job I can ask him if he need one creative more in that team.

thommy 10-04-2017 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22025259)
The media is now certain that he used a bump fire stock. Yet evidence grows that it wasn't.


funny that you call a youtube profile what have never posted anything else as this one video on youtube "the media".

btw: it does not matter with whatever fucking gun he shot down hundreds of people - it should be a final call to take all firearms from the streets.

Barry-xlovecam 10-04-2017 02:27 PM

https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/...-drug-in-june/

The shooter was using prescription Valium for anxiety -- or abusing the psychotropic medication. So, why was he diagnosed anxious and prescribed medication for his *condition*???

This report is based on a public records report so it is probably factual in nature -- not internet fake news.

Drugs and guns are not complementary items :2 cents:
Gimmie some more meth and a Glock 50 cal <rolls eyes>

Matt 26z 10-04-2017 05:47 PM

The sheriff says officers reached the 32nd floor within 12 minutes of gunfire starting and by the time they arrived the gunfire had stopped. It would be another hour before they breached his hotel room and found him dead.

What is very interesting is the sheriff says there was a high amount of ammo left in the room and working guns still available. So why did he stop firing so soon?

They say he shot about 200 rounds into the hallway at a security guard.


THEORY:
Multiple shooters were involved and they turned their attention towards escaping as soon as they saw the guard on their surveillance in the hallway. They fired the 200 rounds into the hall as suppressive fire to make him take cover. Then the real shooters slipped away.

pimpmaster9000 10-04-2017 05:57 PM

It was invisible Muslims...

BaldBastard 10-04-2017 08:19 PM

Gun laws will have to change in the USA, its just a matter of how many lives you are willing to lose before they change. None of the following guns have anything in common.

http://www.baldbastard.com/guns.jpg

The last gun featured is the Autoplasma released in 2065, its capable of firing plasma bullet 3000 rounds a minute, fitted out in the latest in nano bot release modules no enemy is too big, the nano bots can be programmed to seek and disarm or even bring down a while skyscraper in under 15 minutes. The plasma bullets are a mixture of pure plasma bonded with nanoites, these self targeting and programmable shots detect and seek the target. The bullet will explode on impact or not depending on programming they can explode hitting human flesh and not metal for example. The gun also comes with a self destruct and can be used as a small bomb.

nikki99 10-04-2017 08:48 PM

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Barry-xlovecam 10-04-2017 08:58 PM

Explosives should be totally banned too by that illogic.
Firearms ownership is highly restricted in France yet in Paris at the Bataclan concert hall attackers killed 130 victims with light semiautomatics, manufactured in Serbia and transfered illegally to France via the buyer

Quote:

At least seven of the weapons used in, or discovered after, the horrific Paris massacre were produced by the factory in Kragujevac, in central Serbia. Most were manufactured before Yugoslavia broke up in a civil war in the 1990s and were modified versions of the Soviet AK-47, or Kalashnikov.
Gun used in Paris terror attack linked to Florida dealer - NY Daily News

So, let go after the manufacturers? that is stupid. Let's go after the licensed firearm dealers -- the merchants of death -- that is stupid too.

Cow farts create massive methane and increase global warming -- let's kill all of the cows while we are at it.

Do what you want to do in Australia -- but don't try telling Americans what to do with their Constitution and its laws. Fuck off ...

BaldBastard 10-04-2017 11:33 PM

American lives are so cheap...

oppoten 10-04-2017 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 22025703)
Cow farts -- increase global warming -- let's kill all of the cows while we are at it.

I thought only white ppl did that??

I guess white males must be bulls.

MFCT 10-05-2017 12:27 AM

For those calling for gun control, I propose we take it even a step further. I say we need make it against the law for people to buy illegal guns. Because that's clearly what this lunatic did.

Had it simply been against the law, this madman would have been like "Hey, I can't buy that illegal gun to do a mass killing. Doing so would clearly put me in criminal violation of the law. And if there's anything I do as a criminal, its uphold the law."

So yeah, there you go. Problem would have been solved before it even began. Thanks for nothing, NRA supporters.

BaldBastard 10-05-2017 01:09 AM

A guy on psychotic medicine, with no social skills, 47 guns and a gambling problem.

yeah what can possibly go wrong..

If someone want's to go crazy with a gun no amount of laws can stop that. But mass shootings are not really the issue in the scale of gun deaths, its the accidental deaths, suicide's and small confrontation's that cause the most and a large percentage of these are preventable with minor and sensible changes to gun laws.

Every country will have to rewrite/ better enforce gun laws as technology changes, just a matter of do you wait until one gun can kill 10, 100, 1000 or 10,000 people.

pimpmaster9000 10-05-2017 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 22025703)
but don't try telling Americans what to do with their Constitution and its laws. Fuck off ...

it is always amusing when an american asks others to mind their own business whilst american meddles the shit out of the world...comedy 10/10 :thumbsup

Sarn 10-05-2017 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 22025289)
https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/...-drug-in-june/

The shooter was using prescription Valium for anxiety -- or abusing the psychotropic medication. So, why was he diagnosed anxious and prescribed medication for his *condition*???

This report is based on a public records report so it is probably factual in nature -- not internet fake news.

Drugs and guns are not complementary items :2 cents:
Gimmie some more meth and a Glock 50 cal <rolls eyes>

What's the name of that drug that Snipers take to steady their hands and get rid of all nervousness?
Diazepam/Valium
What's the name of that drug that Snipers take to steady their hands and get rid of all nervousness? | IGN Boards


To those who don't know, real life (modern) soldiers tend to pop valium like candy on the battlefield to stay calm (specifically to keep their heart under control).
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/7185...-pain/72740270

Barry-xlovecam 10-05-2017 05:05 AM

Your Serbian ass opinion of US policy are unwelcome. Yo ass still hurtin' from all of the bombs that destroyed so much your arrogant country and killed so many Serbs?

The Vegas shooter has a back history of short term government employment
https://lasvegassun.com/news/2017/oc...ier-irs-agent/
  1. Postal letter carrier
  2. Auditor for the IRS
  3. Worked sort-term for Northrup (defense contractor)

No explanation of where his money came from -- certainly not from his employment.
That leaves a gaping hole in motivation theory disclosed so far by any responsible authority -- the CT nuts are cranking it on Youtube to the extreme to get views -- some of you nit-wits are buying what the computer voiced talking head CT artists are touting at the moment (obviously).

Bump stock triggering devices should have been banned -- there is no reason other than mass killing to have any such device. If you want to fault lawmakers and the NRA on that -- I agree. Circumventing gun laws with workaround device loopholes should be criminalized.

Americans possess lawful firearms for sporting, hunting and personal protection in a violent society.

The other evening I was trying to explain to a friend in Holland why we Americans are not that concerned about using disc rather than pin actuated locks that are lock pick proof. In America they just break your window to get in or shoot you dead and take the keys out of your pocket. American criminals are not all petty thieves -- many are killers. That is just the fuckin' way it has always been here. Violent crime rises and falls with economic cycles and political tensions. Economic times are relatively good -- so guess what the cause is?

onwebcam 10-07-2017 08:24 AM

I found the video that's been deleted everywhere. Facebook saved 1. Even the news sites video link is missing. I wondered why this one was being deleted but after watching and listening to it quite a few times I can tell why... What about you?

https://www.facebook.com/KRIS6News/v...5837130351133/

Here's another little seen video because youtube deleted it. Notice people start running before the main shots start that most video's show. There are a few shots that pop off before then that are more clearly heard and that's why they start running at first. Also there was already a helicopter over the scene when the shooting started


onwebcam 10-07-2017 08:37 AM

NBC caught modifying the cabbie video


Barry-xlovecam 10-07-2017 11:42 AM

Here is some footage ABC new says is of a helicopter flying near the shooter's room footage shot after? the shooting occurred (reportedly).

Helicopter flies near window where the shooter fired Video - ABC News

Nobody heard him breaking out the windows? No glass was seen falling to the street?

Does seem odd :2 cents:

I could start screaming: Trump's false flag or it was a rouge CIA operation --but there is no basis for those accusations.

No calls for investigations from the US government? Something definitely doesn't add up at this point .... to that I would agree.

Aside: I thought I heard helicopters before the concert started in that video. If there was (were) (a) helicopter(s) present that might explain the noise interpreted as *another shooter* --the noise of the helicopter's blades (echoing?)

onwebcam 10-07-2017 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 22028671)
Here is some footage ABC new says is of a helicopter flying near the shooter's room footage shot after? the shooting occurred (reportedly).

Helicopter flies near window where the shooter fired Video - ABC News

Nobody heard him breaking out the windows? No glass was seen falling to the street?

Does seem odd :2 cents:

I could start screaming: Trump's false flag or it was a rouge CIA operation --but there is no basis for those accusations.

No calls for investigations from the US government? Something definitely doesn't add up at this point .... to that I would agree.

Aside: I thought I heard helicopters before the concert started in that video. If there was (were) (a) helicopter(s) present that might explain the noise interpreted as *another shooter* --the noise of the helicopter's blades (echoing?)


No the helicopter is continuous. The shots have been analyzed by shitloads of people.


Here's another

onwebcam 10-07-2017 03:06 PM

Like I said earlier all they are doing is waiting for the "conspiracy theories" to pop up and then fill the void with nothingness

It wasn't a pad as many argued. It was in fact a piece of paper they are calling "mysterious"


A mysterious piece of paper was found in Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock's hotel room
https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...room/23234778/

pimpmaster9000 10-07-2017 03:20 PM

Why would anybody conspire to hide supposed further participants in a random shooting when no motive or message stands behind it...

onwebcam 10-07-2017 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22028869)
Why would anybody conspire to hide supposed further participants in a random shooting when no motive or message stands behind it...

You're assuming there isn't one, yet..

But let's try to answer your question anyway.

1. Government involvement
2. Government doesn't want to admit that even with all of their spying and prying they still can stop things such as this.
3. Government can say one random off the radar guy slipped through the cracks not a group of individuals.


Motive: Government needs to increase it's spying capabilities so they can narrow it down to off the radar lone individuals. Even down to putting body scanners in hotels so you get use to someone looking through your sex toy bag.

Paddock worked either for the government or a government contracted company his entire life. It's now appearing that he wasn't actually "retired rich." That BS made no sense anyway considering his claim to fame is co-owning a apartment complex that sold for 2.1 million. It's fresh on the scene but it looks like he may have been utilizing those 2 planes that no one seems to want to talk about or knows where they are.


That was a quick rundown. I'm sure I could come up with shitloads more.

Bladewire 10-07-2017 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22028887)
You're assuming there isn't one, yet..

But let's try to answer your question anyway.

1. Government involvement
2. Government doesn't want to admit that even with all of their spying and prying they still can stop things such as this.
3. Government can say one random off the radar guy slipped through the cracks not a group of individuals.


Motive: Government needs to increase it's spying capabilities so they can narrow it down to off the radar lone individuals. Even down to putting body scanners in hotels so you get use to someone looking through your sex toy bag.

Paddock worked either for the government or a government contracted company his entire life. It's now appearing that he wasn't actually "retired rich." That BS made no sense anyway considering his claim to fame is co-owning a apartment complex that sold for 2.1 million. It's fresh on the scene but it looks like he may have been utilizing those 2 planes that no one seems to want to talk about or knows where they are.


That was a quick rundown. I'm sure I could come up with shitloads more.

^^^ Off his meds again - paranoid schizophrenia is a serious mental illness

Barry-xlovecam 10-07-2017 06:01 PM

A helicopter hovering in circles over an outdoor event would be continuous for only a short period of time that it is within audio range. The *other* gunfire I heard in one audio (video) seemed to come in bursts.

In one week no spent casings of a second gun have been found nor any eye-witness has come forward. Total mystery (so far). The authorities are really reaching -- but I believe they do not really know. This is not a planned cover up.

So far all we have is a dead nutter (prepper?) that though he was the end of the world or some psycho bullshit. Someone with the intent to mass murder and a handful of Vallium.

Grassy Knoll v 2.0 reloaded ...

onwebcam 10-07-2017 06:02 PM

Marilou Danley Is Lying=> Neighbors Say She Moved ALL OF HER BELONGINGS Out of House in August

Another neighbour from the same exclusive retirement community in Reno, who did not want to be named, said: “I saw the safe and it was literally the size of a refrigerator.

“We would all wonder what on earth he kept in there, but nobody could ever ask as he was not the kind of man who engaged with anyone.

"Mrs Page also revealed how Paddock, 64, fled town after buying a new silver minivan at the start of August.

And just two weeks later she said she watched as girlfriend Marilou Danley packed her things into her car before also leaving.

Mrs Page added: “I remember at the start of August looking out of my window and seeing Stephen pull up in a brand new huge silver minivan.

“But just a few days later he left the house in it and was never seen again.

“I thought the whole situation was even weirder when two weeks later I then look out of my window again to see Marilou stuffing her car full of all her belongings.

“Over the course of three or four days it was like she was moving her entire life out of the house.

“She packed so much stuff not only was her car full, but it was also tied to the top of her car."


August 2-5 was the Lollapalooza Chicago reservation that he no showed.

cosis 10-07-2017 08:38 PM

nothing he did was special or significant. You have all the time in the world to plan shit when you are a anti-social loser

amacontent 10-08-2017 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 22025703)
Explosives should be totally banned too by that illogic.
Firearms ownership is highly restricted in France yet in Paris at the Bataclan concert hall attackers killed 130 victims with light semiautomatics, manufactured in Serbia and transfered illegally to France via the buyer


Gun used in Paris terror attack linked to Florida dealer - NY Daily News

So, let go after the manufacturers? that is stupid. Let's go after the licensed firearm dealers -- the merchants of death -- that is stupid too.

Cow farts create massive methane and increase global warming -- let's kill all of the cows while we are at it.

Do what you want to do in Australia -- but don't try telling Americans what to do with their Constitution and its laws. Fuck off ...

Im american and I think constitution should be changed. Thats why its called an AMENDMENT. This country doesn't deserve the right to bear arms . I know it will never happen , but surely they can think of something. What need is there to sell automatic rifles to the public. And If caught converting a rifle to an automatic rifle the penalty should be HARSH. SO YES , dealers should be held responsible . AND that is a STUPID , CHILDISH analogy with the cows man. Are you serious.

Barry-xlovecam 10-08-2017 09:20 AM

@amacontent
Assault weapons are not the problem -- people are.

If you leave a assault weapon in a semiautomatic configuration and do not attempt to circumvent the law with bump stocks (or the like) then there is no real difference from a semi-automatic hunting rifle -- other that the dick-wad-bad-ass mentality that goes with owning these assault rifles -- again that is a people problem.

If you want to ban the possession and sales of magazines holding more that 5 rounds -- that would make more sense. What are you going to cry about -- you can no longer shoot a deer 30 times? WTF

It is a people problem and if you look at how successful the prohibited drug laws are ... I rest my case. It is a people problem.

Sarn 10-08-2017 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 22029341)
Im american and I think constitution should be changed.

Just need to add in constitution few string. In Russia rewrite constitution every 10-20 years.

http://pitjournal.unc.edu/sites/defa...nimal_farm.jpg

Hillary not wins - need rewrite constitution
Nuts shot few people - need rewrite constitution

Barry-xlovecam 10-08-2017 01:29 PM

Continuity in legal precedent.
You do not want to invest in a country without stable constitutional laws -- you want your assets safe in any foreign investment.
Foreign investment is Russia is crippled by the Russian constitutional laws that change often and in other regimes that rewrite their laws to suit which way the wind is blowing.

the Russian 10Y treasury bond rate is 7.6%
High-risk like a banana republic
US 7Y 2.18%
UK 7Y 1.04%
Japan 7Y -0.05%
Germany 7Y -0.02%


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