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BaldBastard 10-18-2017 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22041883)
You are so girlish... Like when someone here asks what I feel if some Russian soldier dies in Syria. There are mercenaries only. There are no draft soldiers, so I feel... nothing. They are being paid for that. They knew what they signed up for. Period.

Problem is I don't think even dear leader Putty would do this to a pregnant widow of a fallen soldier.

just a punk 10-19-2017 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22042209)
I didn't join the Marines to become a grunt and be in an infantry unit.

You did. Marines are cannon fodder in any war. You are not spetsnaz, but just a meat for any army. So when you signed the contract, you signed it to be killed. You are lucky there was no war when I had your military service. In fact, you've been in the scout camp and you were paid for it.

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22042281)
Problem is I don't think even dear leader Putty would do this to a pregnant widow of a fallen soldier.

There is no problem because I don't give a shit about Putin and what he does.

Once again the US president Trump was absolutely correct.

notinmybackyard 10-19-2017 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22042209)
Sure - allow me to correct you.

I didn't join the Marines to become a grunt and be in an infantry unit. My goal in life then was to become a chef - I was in a culinary program in high school, working as a cook in a local restaurant, and my plan was to go into the Marines to be a cook for four years and then onto culinary college. Much to my surprise, I ended up in infantry as a TOW gunner.

Now that I think about it, for nearly half of my time in the Marines I was not in a combat MOS. For two years I was a combat instructor.

The vast majority of people in the military are not in combat positions. While this number varies from branch to branch, for the most part up to eighty percent of the military is support roles. The military isn't only people with guns - there is supply, cooks, fire fighters, motor transport, logistics, command, admin, police officers, doctors, nurses....

Here is a list of military occupations: ASVAB and Army Jobs | Military.com

The person who signed up to be a "Carpentry and Masonry Specialist" most likely didn't think he would end up being killed in Niger.

Some people sign up to the military hoping to go to a foreign country to kill the enemy. But most people sign up to get gain a technical skill or get money to go to college.


The vast majority of the people that sign up for military duty all have to go through basic training. There they teach you how to shoot guns, march and other kinds of lethal combat skills. If someone doesn't want to run the risk of getting killed by a hostile enemy of the state then they should pursue their aspirations to be a culinary chef, carpenter or mason by getting an apprenticeship instead of enlisting.

In short the man knew the risks.

It's a brutal statement but it's a true statement. I'll argue that such brutal truth is a good thing because it puts an end to this pie in the sky self-delusion that joining the military to be a culinary chef is a risk free endeavor. Ultimately this might save a life.

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MiamiBoyz 10-19-2017 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Smack dat (Post 22041795)
Honestly. He is telling it like it is.

I know...refreshing right! Nice to have a president who is real and down to earth like the rest of us. Not that bullshit Obama and that skank Hillary would have done...all show for the cameras and then laughing behind the widow's back. Soldiers are just replaceable cogs to those people and there are plenty more where they came from.

Sure they are both good actors when it comes to appearing to care but don't be fooled....that's all it was/is AN ACT.

He did know up what he signed up for...they have papers to sign you know. If he thought he was going to sit around and collect checks he should have realized that esd NOT going to happen when they trained him with a fucking gun!

Rochard 10-19-2017 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 22042409)
The vast majority of the people that sign up for military duty all have to go through basic training. There they teach you how to shoot guns, march and other kinds of lethal combat skills. If someone doesn't want to run the risk of getting killed by a hostile enemy of the state then they should pursue their aspirations to be a culinary chef, carpenter or mason by getting an apprenticeship instead of enlisting.

In short the man knew the risks.

It's a brutal statement but it's a true statement. I'll argue that such brutal truth is a good thing because it puts an end to this pie in the sky self-delusion that joining the military to be a culinary chef is a risk free endeavor. Ultimately this might save a life.

In the Marines, every Marine is a rifleman. But again, that is not why most people sign up for the military.

notinmybackyard 10-19-2017 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22042555)
In the Marines, every Marine is a rifleman. But again, that is not why most people sign up for the military.

It doesn't matter what reason someone signs up for military duty. If they can't put it together that there's a risk of being killed then they're an idiot. Also if someone marries someone in the military and they haven't figured it out that their spouse might be killed then they're also an idiot.

It's cold... it's cruel... it's the truth... And it needs to be said!

Because before anyone looking for a career in the culinary field should seriously consider this fact before they decide to join the military.

BaldBastard 10-19-2017 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22042385)
You did. Marines are cannon fodder in any war. You are not spetsnaz, but just a meat for any army. So when you signed the contract, you signed it to be killed. You are lucky there was no war when I had your military service. In fact, you've been in the scout camp and you were paid for it.

There is no problem because I don't give a shit about Putin and what he does.
Once again the US president Trump was absolutely correct.

If I told you I have a few thousand domains that I'm looking for someone to rebuild for me and your company was short listed. But based solely on your posts in this thread you just lost what I was prepared to skink $150k into, would that make you sad?..

See being a fuckwit cluck can have real implications, especially if your posting in the same forum your potential customers are..

just a punk 10-19-2017 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22042575)
If I told you I have a few thousand domains that I'm looking for someone to rebuild for me and your company was short listed. But based solely on your posts in this thread you just lost what I was prepared to skink $150k into, would that make you sad?..

No. it wouuldn't. I just don't care about you and your sites. You are not my customer - you are just nothing and nobody to me. Is that clear? :)

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22042555)
In the Marines, every Marine is a rifleman.

So you are just a cannon fodder. You will shoot them, they will shoot you in return and you die. Right? This is that meat is intended for. Nothing personal, but this is a truth.

2MuchMark 10-19-2017 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22042209)
Sure - allow me to correct you.

I didn't join the Marines to become a grunt and be in an infantry unit. My goal in life then was to become a chef - I was in a culinary program in high school, working as a cook in a local restaurant, and my plan was to go into the Marines to be a cook for four years and then onto culinary college. Much to my surprise, I ended up in infantry as a TOW gunner.

Now that I think about it, for nearly half of my time in the Marines I was not in a combat MOS. For two years I was a combat instructor.

The vast majority of people in the military are not in combat positions. While this number varies from branch to branch, for the most part up to eighty percent of the military is support roles. The military isn't only people with guns - there is supply, cooks, fire fighters, motor transport, logistics, command, admin, police officers, doctors, nurses....

Here is a list of military occupations: ASVAB and Army Jobs | Military.com

The person who signed up to be a "Carpentry and Masonry Specialist" most likely didn't think he would end up being killed in Niger.

Some people sign up to the military hoping to go to a foreign country to kill the enemy. But most people sign up to get gain a technical skill or get money to go to college.

:thumbsup


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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 22042409)
The vast majority of the people that sign up for military duty all have to go through basic training.
...

In short the man knew the risks.
.

Have you ever served? If not probably shouldn't try to argue your point with someone who has.

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Bump for proof Trump or STFU!

Rochard 10-19-2017 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 22042571)
It doesn't matter what reason someone signs up for military duty. If they can't put it together that there's a risk of being killed then they're an idiot. Also if someone marries someone in the military and they haven't figured it out that their spouse might be killed then they're also an idiot.

It's cold... it's cruel... it's the truth... And it needs to be said!

Because before anyone looking for a career in the culinary field should seriously consider this fact before they decide to join the military.

You can say that anyone doing anything. "Oh, your spouse died in a car crash? Well, the knew what they were getting into the moment they got into car". That's just rude.

We should expect more from the leader of the free world.

notinmybackyard 10-19-2017 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22042613)
:thumbsup

Have you ever served? If not probably shouldn't try to argue your point with someone who has.

I took part in the 1968 riots in Paris against the French government so that should tell you where my loyalties are.

Mark this is a no brainer.

It doesn't matter what someone's "Job" is in the military because they will always run the risk of being killed by an enemy of the state. Just wearing the uniform makes someone a target for those that don't agree with his government. It's just as simple as that.

wehateporn 10-19-2017 09:13 AM

Western soldiers sign up to kill innocent brown people :2 cents:

just a punk 10-19-2017 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22042675)
You can say that anyone doing anything. "Oh, your spouse died in a car crash? Well, the knew what they were getting into the moment they got into car". That's just rude.

First of all, if you are driving a car, you accept the responsibility and you know that you can die or kill someone (anciently of course). When you sign a contract with army, you agrees to play a Russian roulette. There is 50% chance that you will kill somebody and 50% chance that somebody will kill you (not anciently).

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22042675)
We should expect more from the leader of the free world.

And where is that amazing free would is located? In a country where cops kill more citizens than terrorists?

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BaldBastard 10-19-2017 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22042609)
No. it wouuldn't. I just don't care about you and your sites. You are not my customer - you are just nothing and nobody to me. Is that clear? :)

The feeling is mutual, all I am is another potential customer and all you are is another scripting company.

JFK 10-19-2017 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22041309)
He says he has proof. Until he gives us that proof, he's full of bullshit. He always is. He never backs anything up, ever.

EVER ..........:2 cents: :thumbsup

RazorSharpe 10-19-2017 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 22041897)
Let's test this resolve of yours to always tell the truth.

Please give the gfy name of any and all of your current clients who you think are morons.

Remember, always tell the truth ...

Cyber SEO, I think you missed this post. Or are you just ignoring it?

Rochard 10-19-2017 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 22042699)
I took part in the 1968 riots in Paris against the French government so that should tell you where my loyalties are.

Mark this is a no brainer.

It doesn't matter what someone's "Job" is in the military because they will always run the risk of being killed by an enemy of the state. Just wearing the uniform makes someone a target for those that don't agree with his government. It's just as simple as that.

And..... Every time you get into a car you run the risk of getting hit and killed. Doesn't mean it's proper to walk up to your spouse or parents and say "You knew the risks".

notinmybackyard 10-19-2017 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22042675)
You can say that anyone doing anything. "Oh, your spouse died in a car crash? Well, the knew what they were getting into the moment they got into car". That's just rude.

Someone driving a car down Main st. --- NO
A soldier driving a tank ---- Absolutely

Look you're trying to spin this in an attempt to somehow not only justify your beliefs but also because you hate Trump.

So I'll make it easy for you.

Someone working the night shift at McDonalds gets shot and killed by a robber. Well that's a tragedy because they're a civilian and their family isn't going to get a phone call from the president.

On the other hand someone in the military gets killed is a different story. They're not civilians, they're trained to use fire arms and it's made very clear that they might be called to kill someone or that they might become a casualty of conflict.

You sign the contract and you accept the risk. You give up being a civilian for the opportunities and benefits of the military and you have to take the risks that go with that. Today's military is a volunteer one so therefore no one has a gun at your head forcing you into dangerous situations.

just a punk 10-19-2017 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22042773)
And..... Every time you get into a car you run the risk of getting hit and killed. Doesn't mean it's proper to walk up to your spouse or parents and say "You knew the risks".

Do you understand a difference between an accident and a premeditated murder?

As I said above, in my country every man is a soldier. Course if he is not cripple, has no money for a bribe and is not a son of some politician. If you are not one of those you have to serve in army and you may be sent to a real war (not a boy-scout camp like Rochard). You will have to kill and you may be killed too. I know a lot of people who were at wars like Afghanistan and Chechnya. All of them are regular guys - they have not signed any contracts and they were not paid for that. For example, a classmate of my wife (the guy who gave flowers to her when he was a boy) has served as a machine gun operator during the Chechen war. In contrast to Rochard, he is a real veteran who was at real war. Once when we were drinking beer with him, I asked: "how many people did you kill?". He said: "I don't know... maybe 20 or 25... When you fire with a machine gun, the guy just falls. Maybe he's dead, maybe injured or maybe he just stumbled..."

He drinks a lot now and I really feel for him, because he didn't choose to be a killer. He was drafted and pushed out when his service was completed. And there are many guys like him in Russia. They all were trained to kill, some (like that guy) have killed other humans. My brother in law was a member of VDV assault brigade in Afghanistan. He just doesn't tell what he did there (he says he was a cook at the kitchen), but I know what he did and that's won't sound good if I tell it here... Unfortunately. Too many Russian guys did that just because they had - not for money and not for contract and further preferences. As about the professional soldiers who get paid for their service - I don't care and totally agree with Trump - they know what they sign up for - to be killers.

Mickey_ 10-19-2017 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22041883)
You are so girlish... Like when someone here asks what I feel if some Russian soldier dies in Syria. There are mercenaries only. There are no draft soldiers, so I feel... nothing. They are being paid for that. They knew what they signed up for. Period.

You're calling me girlish and yet here you are comparing your feelings and emotional strength to that of a grieving woman?s.

Again, try to understand that in this context, no one gives a shit about how tough Mother Russia has made you and your feelings, comrade. Not the grieving woman, nor anyone with an ounce of human decency.

I'm saying this in the interest of the small chance that you'll have an epiphany and realize how fundamentally wrong your thought process is regarding this scenario.

just a punk 10-19-2017 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mickey_ (Post 22042849)
You're calling me girlish and yet here you are comparing your feelings and emotional strength to that of a grieving woman’s.

Again, try to understand that in this context, no one gives a shit about how tough Mother Russia has made you and your feelings, comrade. Not the grieving woman, nor anyone with an ounce of human decency.

I'm saying this in the interest of the small chance that you'll have an epiphany and realize how fundamentally wrong your thought process is regarding this scenario.

Try to understand that I don't give a shit on how thought your country is. When a draft soldier dies it's a tragedy. When a paid mercenary dies - it's a normal end of his career. Mission accomplished, congratulations! Maybe you just don't understand what he was paid for? To live like a boy scout, shoot at bottles and sleep with exotic chicks? No...

Once again and again: president Trump is absolutely right.

Mickey_ 10-19-2017 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22042851)
Try to understand that I don't give a shit on how thought your country is. When a draft soldier dies it's a tragedy. When a paid mercenary dies - it's a normal end of his career. Mission accomplished, congratulations!

Empathy. Look it up one day, maybe you'll realize that "the truth and nothing but the cold hard truth" can take a backseat among well-rounded, developed people in the interest of the feelings of another weaker human that's suffering in one way or another.

If that doesn't register with you, I don't know what to tell you and wish you good luck. :2 cents:

crockett 10-19-2017 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22041777)
I guess the looney left found their new fake outrage for the day lol

Gee Im trying to keep up., one day its fake outrage because some football players take a knee and by doing so, somehow disrepect the flag and troops. The next days its ok that the comander in chief disrespects fallen soldiers and outright lies about it..

Rochard 10-19-2017 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 22042789)
Someone driving a car down Main st. --- NO
A soldier driving a tank ---- Absolutely

Look you're trying to spin this in an attempt to somehow not only justify your beliefs but also because you hate Drumpf.

So I'll make it easy for you.

Someone working the night shift at McDonalds gets shot and killed by a robber. Well that's a tragedy because they're a civilian and their family isn't going to get a phone call from the president.

On the other hand someone in the military gets killed is a different story. They're not civilians, they're trained to use fire arms and it's made very clear that they might be called to kill someone or that they might become a casualty of conflict.

You sign the contract and you accept the risk. You give up being a civilian for the opportunities and benefits of the military and you have to take the risks that go with that. Today's military is a volunteer one so therefore no one has a gun at your head forcing you into dangerous situations.

No.

I didn't sign up to drive a tank. I didn't sign up to serve in a front line infantry unit. I didn't sign up to become a TOW gunner. I signed up to become a cook. I signed up to get money for college.

But no matter what....

The President of the United States should never call someone who's spouse just died and say "too fucking bad" or "No big deal" or "He knew what he was getting into.

No matter what.

It's undignified.

The leader of the free world should set the example, be a leader - not a crap on our troops by saying "this is what he signed up for".

It's deplorable.

Lichen 10-19-2017 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22041485)
Holy shit - can you not see how rude that is?

When someone dies of cancer you don't walk up to his wife and say "Well, he smoked for twenty years so he deserved it".

I wouldn't walk up and say it on purpose, but if someone asked me, i'd tell em exactly that.

Dumbass behavior shouldn't be encouraged or sugarcoated.

Lichen 10-19-2017 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22041485)

What? Puts on a show for the sheep?

Fuck, this place gets more stupid by the day.


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Lichen 10-19-2017 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 22041591)
Regarding the people who don't understand why these remarks are insensitive....there's no use trying to explain tact, decency and respect to them.

Are you 5 years old? You sign up for a WAR ZONE, you know it, your family knows it, you get paid big $$$ for it. So why the fuck do you need everyone to hold your hand?

Boo-fucking-hoo! President Trump hurt my feelings because he said the truth! (not because i want to scam taxpayers for a $$$$$$$$ settlement)


https://i.imgur.com/jeSfNCo.png


No why wonder our military is getting cucked all over the world.

Lichen 10-19-2017 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 22041729)
They hate America and it's freedoms

He died protecting our freedom by fighting n*ggers in Niger

:1orglaugh

just a punk 10-19-2017 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22042887)
I didn't sign up to drive a tank. I didn't sign up to serve in a front line infantry unit. I didn't sign up to become a TOW gunner. I signed up to become a cook. I signed up to get money for college.

So you signed up to be a boy scout and live with a Barbie in her house and be paid for that? Please tell me where I can sing up for such a beautiful live? :)

P.S. So you are not a marine. You are a... cook? Congrats on that :thumbsup :1orglaugh

Bladewire 10-19-2017 01:24 PM

The same asshole nics here who bitched about BENGHAZI for years are now saying they knew what they signed up for no big deal.

Wow a lot of unpatriotic shitstain asshole nics here.

Bladewire 10-19-2017 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22042887)
No.

I didn't sign up to drive a tank. I didn't sign up to serve in a front line infantry unit. I didn't sign up to become a TOW gunner. I signed up to become a cook. I signed up to get money for college.

But no matter what....

The President of the United States should never call someone who's spouse just died and say "too fucking bad" or "No big deal" or "He knew what he was getting into.

No matter what.

It's undignified.

The leader of the free world should set the example, be a leader - not a crap on our troops by saying "this is what he signed up for".

It's deplorable.

No need to justify youself to scum here you're a patriot :flagface

Rochard 10-19-2017 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lichen (Post 22042907)
Are you 5 years old? You sign up for a WAR ZONE, you know it, your family knows it, you get paid big $$$ for it. So why the fuck do you need everyone to hold your hand?

Boo-fucking-hoo! President Drumpf hurt my feelings because he said the truth! (not because i want to scam taxpayers for a $$$$$$$$ settlement)


https://i.imgur.com/jeSfNCo.png


No why wonder our military is getting cucked all over the world.

No, he didn't sign up for a war zone, he didn't sign up to go into combat, and he surely did not get paid "big $$$$" - unless you consider $20k a year "big $$$$".

No matter what NO ONE should say anything like that to someone who just died.

Rochard 10-19-2017 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22042991)
So you are not a marine. You are a... cook? Congrats on that :thumbsup :1orglaugh

No, I never made it to cooking school.

Instead I became a TOW missile man, MOS 0352, and served with 2/8. After a few years I became a combat instructor with AITS.



I never saw any combat, and got out in 1989 shortly before Kuwait.

just a punk 10-19-2017 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22043033)
Instead I became a TOW missile man, MOS 0352, and served with 2/8. After a few years I became a combat instructor with AITS.

So I'm confused a bit. Are you a cook, or you are a cannon fodder - a man who will be killed first at a front line?

I will explain it to you in the military terminology. What is an efficient range of MOS 035? What is an efficient range of a sniper? But everything that doesn't mater, because there will be no snipers. There will be РСЗО "Буратино" (aka Pinokio :)) and 9К58 "Смерч" to take you out from the game. You won't be able to blink, before they will turn you into a bbq.

These little babes will be used to neutralize the TOW operators like you:



Now tell me you are not a cannon fodder :) You have signed for that and you are very lucky there were was no real military conflict.

Mickey_ 10-19-2017 02:15 PM

In related alternative news, Donald Trump was quoted as saying "I'd rather not waste my time calling any war widows, unless they are at least a solid 8."

BaldBastard 10-19-2017 02:34 PM

Your all carrying on as if Trump was responding to the solider or prep taking to the next batch of brain washed droids to be sent in on a mission, but he wasn't, he was speaking to the grieving widow crying on a phone.

Also interesting they sent Kelly in for the defence when its known the call was taken in a travelling car on speaker phone which Wilson was also in because she's a close family friend. Might be hard to avoid that and interesting how they are skipping over that part now.

directfiesta 10-19-2017 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22042991)
P.S. So you are not a marine. You are a... cook? Congrats on that :thumbsup :1orglaugh

well, don't take the cook for granted ....


Lichen 10-19-2017 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22043011)
No, he didn't sign up for a war zone, he didn't sign up to go into combat

Are you a fucking retard? The dude was a Green Beret.

Special Forces missions have like a 50% chance of being shot. "He knew what he signed up for" is not offensive. It's actually a complement to his bravery for signing up.

We don't even know what Trump said, we know what some crazy lady in a plastic cowboy hat who has already called for his impeachment says he said.

https://i.imgur.com/9Lzbrsn.jpg

Jesus Christ, screeching Libs will exploit anything. They're the ones looking bad again.


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