Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22057750)

The last time a campaign chairman was indicted AND charged was during Watergate. None of the charges mention Trump because they are not against Trump; they are against Manafort and Gates. These are money laundering charges, and very VERY easy to prove in court. Manafort and Gates will be facing serious jail time, and these might result in them going to prison for the rest of their lives. The intention it to put pressure on them to flip on Trump. If they don't flip, or if there was no collusion, they go to prison for the crimes they committed. Best case for Manafort and Gates is for them to tell all they know and make a deal.

We already know there was collusion. A member of Trump's Foreign Policy Committee "magically" met a Russian agent while on vacation in Italy, came back and told the Trump campaign he had met someone who had "dirt" on Clinton, and someone at the Trump Campaign signed off on him and "another person" going to a foreign country to meet this person.

As for the Podesta Group, there seems to be no indication of any wrong doing. They were mention in the indictment only because they did some work for the same group Manafort worked for. Working for this group isn't what Manafort is in trouble for, nor is there any wrong doing involved in working for them. There was a dozen other companies mentioned in the indictment, and oddly enough the only ones the Republicans have latched onto is the Podesta Group.

At this point the Podesta Group does not seem to be under investigation, nor are any of the other companies under investigation. In the event they decide to investigate them, and they discover the Podesta Brothers were making money in Ukraine and then holding it in a bank in Cypress that Russians use to launder money.... Well then, they will be charged and they can go to prison. With the Podesta Brothers there is no "deal" to be made.

Again, I find it amusing that out of the dozen companies mentioned only one is being singled out, and Republicans are acting like they are under investigation. Take a look at the Podesta Brothers and compare them to Manafort. The Podesta Brothers are life long politicians - Do you really think they were laundering money through banks in Cypress?

Of course you had to mention Clinton, because she has zero involvement in any of this. But we should investigate her again just to be sure.

Originally Posted by TheRock55 (Post 22069836)

You are hallucinating. There is no collusion

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22070004)

^^ this is accurate.

Sorry Rochard, I know you dislike Trump for some strange reason, but there's no Russia collusion from the Trump campaign. Manafort was lobbying for Ukraine 10 years ago and whatever he did, it has NOTHING to do with Trump or his campaign. Seems to me that the Podesta brothers planted Manafort in the Trump campaign to sabotage it, and Tony P just got run over by the Trump train.

But Don Jr! Ok, Don Jr met with someone who claimed to have dirt on Hillary. That's not collusion, it's not treason, it's not any crime whatsoever. The Russian lawyer worked for Fusion gps and was brought into the country by Loretta Lynch. It was all a setup.

Furthermore, there is evidence of collusion- from the Hillary campaign:

Media, Dems Ignore Hillary Ukraine Collusion

Sorry bud, the dems are massive criminals.

:pimp

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22070004)

But Don Jr! Ok, Don Jr met with someone who claimed to have dirt on Hillary. That's not collusion, it's not treason, it's not any crime whatsoever.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22070548)

It's violation of campaign laws. A candidate cannot receive anything of value from a foreign government.

Not to mention the $15 million Turkey offered Flynn.

Originally Posted by TheRock55 (Post 22068620)

If these "russians" that Donald Trump JR met with were so bad and evil...then how the hell did they get to enter the country?

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22070562)

The Obama Admin let them in on special visas.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22070548)

It's violation of campaign laws. A candidate cannot receive anything of value from a foreign government.

Not to mention the $15 million Turkey offered Flynn.

Originally Posted by TheRock55 (Post 22070566)

SO they're "evil menacing horrible russians"...who the obama admin just let in! :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22070570)

So evil they they were paying them for the dossier. Hell they were on DNC payroll when they went to the fucking meeting.

The Democrats are so fucking stupid that they keep pressing for themselves to be exposed. I LOVE IT. Can't wait for more Trump cards to be played.

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22057756)

CIA's been cleaning up after them for years that's why. Obama was a spook as well. That's why his past is so sketchy, full of holes, multiple SS#s and all.. Bush Jr was via Bush Sr. Considering he and Osama Bin Laden were childhood friends Jr was most likely his handler.. The US has been run by CIA since at least Bush Sr. Likely since Kennedy. MSM is FULL of CIA. That's why they all work in unison.. That's why all of them are pissed their election fix didn't work..

Mueller's indictments weren't a warning to Trump. It was a warning to these people. Podesta, Hillary and others. If you don't stop trying to take out a democratically elected President, I'm taking you out. If these people keep pushing, Trump has no choice. All dirty secrets will be revealed. Trump allowing the Kennedy file release was a message. The Newsweek Uranium One article was a message. He's making it very clear. Fuck with me, Ill fuck you 10 times over. Quite sure he has a plan in place to expose everyone if anything happens to him. He's not stupid.

Once again, Trump met with Mueller the day before he was appointed. If you think he didn't know Mueller would be the appointment you're a complete fucking moron. Pretty much retard status. Trump interviewed Mueller for FBI director - CNNPolitics

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22070548)

It's violation of campaign laws. A candidate cannot receive anything of value from a foreign government.

Not to mention the $15 million Turkey offered Flynn.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22074838)

Now we have Russia making payments to US election funds...

FBI scrutinizing Russian embassy payments 'to finance election campaign of 2016' | TheHill
https://www.buzzfeed.com/kevincollie...Rw#.wxLPOegw6w

Nothing burger.

Originally Posted by TheRock55 (Post 22074918)

Only mentally ill people believe Russia "hacked" our election lol

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22074924)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

https://pics.onsizzle.com/election-2...is-8916664.png

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22077626)

This won't surprise anyone.... Seems Jared is now hiding emails about Wikileaks and Russia. Some of the emails have to do with ?Russian backdoor overture and dinner invite".....

You all see where this is going, right? EVERYONE in the Trump campaign was talking about Russia, back doors to Russia, secret communications with Russia, and Wikileaks. At a certain point in time we will have to question Trump himself - under oath. With the way he lies.... Holy shit that will be comical.

Drip. Drip. Drip.

Originally Posted by TheRock55 (Post 22077746)

What does wikileaks have anything to do with Russia? What does Trump or the election have anything to do with this?

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22082814)

Flynn just rolled over. LOL.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/23/u...sia-trump.html

Drip. Drip. Drip.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22082887)

This was the plan all along. Interview them one a time, get a picture of what was going on, catch them in lies, threaten to throw the book at them, and then get them to spill.

Manafort is a snake oil salesman and thinks he'll get away with it. If he doesn't roll over soon, he can spend some high quality bonding time in prison (don't drop the soap). Flynn - and his son - are in some serious legal trouble. Say what you want about Flynn, but he is vastly different than Manafort. Manafort thinks he can get away with this, but Flynn knows he is caught and knows he is facing serious jail time.

Keep in mind we only know a little bit of what is really happening.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22094364)

And now we find out that Flynn was acting under orders of a "senior Trump campaign adviser" and that he "communicated his discussions with the team at Mar-a-Lago"..... Which basically means Flynn was talking to Trump in Florida, which directly connects Trump himself to collusion.

Drip. Drip. Drip.

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22094373)

and i still say they will let him do the tax thing before he got asskicked out of the white temple.

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22094373)

and i still say they will let him do the tax thing before he got asskicked out of the white temple.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22095447)

So.... Flynn completely rolled over..... And claims that Jared and Trump himself ordered him to talk to the Russians....

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22095477)

Rochard is hysterical, practically foaming at the mouth.

Flynn's contact with "the Russians" took place AFTER the election. Furthermore, the contact was about a strategy for Russia and the US to partner to defeat ISIS. What's the problem? Furthermore, talking with Russians is not a crime, no matter when or what the subject. This all means it's a big nothingburger.