Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22057510)

Vegas was a one time thing.

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 22057530)

I read 4,500 foreign former ISIS fighters are thought to be making their way 'home' most are returning to Europe.

Attacks like these are going to become a more and more of a common occurrence -- for them the war is not over :2 cents:

Sad day indeed.

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 22057638)

You mean that Trump could not keep you safe !!!!!!!

Damn ...... :disgust

Originally Posted by kane (Post 22057658)

It's saddened me as well. A guy kills 50+ and injures 200+ in a shooting rampage and The NRA and the people taking their money (especially on the right) screams about how we can't talk about gun control right after this happens because it would be disrespectful to the victims, but when a crazy terrorist dude kills people there is no hesitation to turn this into a political debate about who should and should not be banned from coming into the country.

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 22057508)

Whose mouth are you putting this in?

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22057906)

Killing people from a hotel window was a one, two time thing. Americans killing other Americans is an hourly occurrence.

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 22057706)

The point is that all/most of these were just crazy people went nuts for random reasons while muslim attacks are all for the same - killing infidels for not being muslim.
It is strange that people do not grasp obvious things like that.

Ps: not saying that those attacks were not terrorism, just explaining the core difference.

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22057912)

How about looking at the guys mental health instead of stereotyping it in to an religious thing. First I highly doubt ISIS trains people to commit terrorist acts with fake guns, especially in the USA where they are so reliably available.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22057900)

This is true. It proves Trump isn't going far enough to protect Americans.

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22057912)

How about looking at the guys mental health instead of stereotyping it in to an religious thing. First I highly doubt ISIS trains people to commit terrorist acts with fake guns, especially in the USA where they are so reliably available.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22057906)

Killing people from a hotel window was a one, two time thing. Americans killing other Americans is an hourly occurrence.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22057356)

Could it be homegrown or someone from a country Trump wanted to ban?

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22057504)

Let me see if I understand this correctly....

58 in vegas, not terror.
8 in NYC, terror.

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22057624)

Sayfullo Habibullavevic Saipov

People with names like that shouldn't even be allowed in the USA!

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22058476)

How about we just stop renting trucks to Muslim dudes with beards? Let's start there.

Oh - and sorry "peaceful" Muslims. You cannot control or even speak out against these types of attacks so guess what? You are guilty too, just like every Christian is partly guilty for believing in a religion that can lead someone to blow up an abortion clinic.

We need to STOP religious zealotry no matter what religion we are discussing.

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 22058484)

Trump is all upset and reactionary over this event, while WAY more people have been killed recently by crazy Americans (uhhhh, Las Vegas). Why not politicize that fact?

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22058476)

How about we just stop renting trucks to Muslim dudes with beards? Let's start there.

Oh - and sorry "peaceful" Muslims. You cannot control or even speak out against these types of attacks so guess what? You are guilty too, just like every Christian is partly guilty for believing in a religion that can lead someone to blow up an abortion clinic.

We need to STOP religious zealotry no matter what religion we are discussing.

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22058496)

Las Vegas was not one crazy person, it was a pro mercenary team. But since you brought up Las Vegas, where 60 people were killed, you should also bring up Chicago, where 60 people are killed every week. Mostly black on black crime. Why not politicize that fact?

:pimp

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22058488)

1) much much more muslims get killed by terrorists than any other group
2) the USA drops 25.000 bombs/year on average...this is pure terrorism no matter how you look at it

so "peaceful" american...why not start with condemning your own bomb dropping? :2 cents:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22058640)

Condemn it? I wish they bombed them MORE.
In fact, I say drop a nuke on the entire Middle East. We go in with hasmat suits and get all the oil. Multiple problems solved.

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22058684)

so that means you can understand that kim jong un have the same right to say and do that?

fine - let´s wait who is first.



maybe this day will come. why should they not want to kill people who want to nuke them?



and WHO do you think is the civilzed one ?

do you really think america is civilized?
an country with the most imprinsioned in the world - a country where even prisons are in private hands doing all to get the "customers" back - a country with the most humicides in the world - a country with most drug addicted people who are drug addicted because they can´t pay for the meds - a country what lives from war and exports war is civilized?

no - it´s not. there ARE civilized people there - and a lot of REALLY nice people - but also people like you and a few others here who are not the majority but they are louder as the majority is. and the loud voices are heard all over the world and THIS is the image of america. and you wonder why america and the western world have so many enemies?
start with yourself to change and you will see that the world will change.

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22058640)

Condemn it? I wish they bombed them MORE.
In fact, I say drop a nuke on the entire Middle East. We go in with hasmat suits and get all the oil. Multiple problems solved.

Look, Muslims simply do not want to live in a world with the rest of us. They want EVERYONE to be like them and they will kill anyone who is different. Human beings like this cannot be allowed to exist on the same planet as other human beings. So eradicate them.

They cannot be convinced to be civilized. They cannot be convinced to "play nice" and accept other cultures. So: buh-bye BOOM.

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22058704)

As with most of these arguments you have your head turned around. Stop being backwards. I want to nuke them BECAUSE they have the ideology I described. No one can deny this and even you do not try to. It's fact. Radical Muslims want all Westerners dead and it has ZERO to do with the "reasons" you laid out. Don't believe in Allah and Mo-mo? You must die. End of discussion.

As for crimes WITHIN the US having the most (We're #1! We're #1!) does not mean other "civilized" countries have zero of these crimes. So which country IS "civilized" in your opinion? Chances are they have homicides, prisons and drug problems, too.

MY definition of 'civilized': religious tolerance. Don't kill anyone in the name of your God. That's it really, quite simple! America's "crimes" can be summed up as lust for money and power. We are not bombing the world 'cause Jesus told us to. HUGE difference.

Next.

PS: I am a NEW YORKER. Not simply "American". Another huge difference. And our reputation around the world is stellar.

Originally Posted by kane (Post 22058714)

...
Here's a hint. There are over a billion Muslims in this world and some of them control countries that also have nuclear weapons.

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 22058786)

Best solution is to put the advanced world in the situation where it does not need 'their' oil and gas (LNG, LPG) for energy. Then foreign policy will be more objective. This is 10 to 20 years away -- if we work at it seriously and in earnest.

From the 'muzzie' perspective: Over 10,000 (some say 40,000) ISIS maniac soldiers have been liquidated. As direct collateral damage of US led and Russian lead military operations -- 3,000 to 5,000 reported civilian deaths have occurred. So the return damage is maybe 1 for 10? 1 for 50 overall.

You didn't think there would be a sickening retribution?

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22058704)

MY definition of 'civilized': religious tolerance. Don't kill anyone in the name of your God.

Originally Posted by DraX (Post 22058728)

I hear you, but hard to reason with folks like Thommy, he already got it all figured out.

Originally Posted by kane (Post 22058714)

The argument about Muslims and their ability to get along with the rest of the world aside, stop for a minute and really think about what you have said. Do you not see how us bombing an entire region of the planet then stealing its natural resources would turn out very badly for us?

Here's a hint. There are over a billion Muslims in this world and some of them control countries that also have nuclear weapons.

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22058826)

i hope you get the chancre one day to get out of new york - yes there IS something outside. new york is not the center of the universe.

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22058820)

Uzbekistan... A nanny from Uzbekistan has beheaded a little girl in Moscow (don't watch this video if you have a weak heart):



BTW, where the Boston bombers were from?

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22058640)

Condemn it? I wish they bombed them MORE.
In fact, I say drop a nuke on the entire Middle East. We go in with hasmat suits and get all the oil. Multiple problems solved.

Look, Muslims simply do not want to live in a world with the rest of us. They want EVERYONE to be like them and they will kill anyone who is different. Human beings like this cannot be allowed to exist on the same planet as other human beings. So eradicate them.

They cannot be convinced to be civilized. They cannot be convinced to "play nice" and accept other cultures. So: buh-bye BOOM.

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22058846)

I have traveled all over the world (Europe, Asia, South America) and have seen it all, as have most New Yorkers. This is why NYers are respected around the world above 'Americans'.

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22058640)

Condemn it? I wish they bombed them MORE.
In fact, I say drop a nuke on the entire Middle East. We go in with hasmat suits and get all the oil. Multiple problems solved.

Look, Muslims simply do not want to live in a world with the rest of us. They want EVERYONE to be like them and they will kill anyone who is different. Human beings like this cannot be allowed to exist on the same planet as other human beings. So eradicate them.

They cannot be convinced to be civilized. They cannot be convinced to "play nice" and accept other cultures. So: buh-bye BOOM.

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22058848)

what you want to prove with that?
are russians free from mentally ill people or is this only a privilege to people from uzbekistan?

this women did not even went to jail in russia. she is in a hospital for mental ill people.
so WHAT is your message?

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22058848)

she is in a hospital for mental ill people.
so WHAT is your message?

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22057942)

i am pretty sure he will build a wall to the border of usbekistan ;-)

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22057950)

when do you guys finally understand one thing:

when the day comes (and BECAUSE of your hate it WILL) when every muslim in this world is throwing a bomb - there is no USA anymore.

you do not need to be scared the nukes of kim anymore because usa will be history.

there are 2 billion muslims on this planet and possibly 1% of them hates us so much that they don´t even care a suicide attack. up to know maybe 0,0001% of them did it.

you guys with all your hate and blindness working hard to bring all 2 billion in that mode.

if that day comes, no wall no nuke, no army and no hate and no trump will help you anymore.

if they would bomb and kill just the ones who are responsable for that hate - fine - i would enjoy to watch that spectacle. but unfortunately in the mode of hate, they will react EXACTLY like you guys and don´t make a difference between the haters and the smarts.

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22057974)

Not sure it was a terrorist attack. Perhaps just a crazy motherfucker. It's very good that he was not killed and taken alive. I believe they will find a way to make him speak.

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 22058484)

Ironically, this guy killed 2 Americans and the others were Argentinian tourists.

But anyway, Trump is all upset and reactionary over this event, while WAY more people have been killed recently by crazy Americans (uhhhh, Las Vegas). Why not politicize that fact?

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22058566)

in that case i am 100% with you - but it is not ONLY religion what can create hate on everyone who does not think or look as one self.
all this " we are better, we are wiser, we are the privileged" have to be stopped.
it starts with national bride and ends in brainwashing sects.

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22058684)

and WHO do you think is the civilzed one ?

do you really think america is civilized?
an country with the most imprinsioned in the world - a country where even prisons are in private hands doing all to get the "customers" back - a country with the most humicides in the world - a country with most drug addicted people who are drug addicted because they can´t pay for the meds - a country what lives from war and exports war is civilized?

no - it´s not. there ARE civilized people there - and a lot of REALLY nice people - but also people like you and a few others here who are not the majority but they are louder as the majority is. and the loud voices are heard all over the world and THIS is the image of america. and you wonder why america and the western world have so many enemies?
start with yourself to change and you will see that the world will change.

Originally Posted by kane (Post 22058714)

The argument about Muslims and their ability to get along with the rest of the world aside, stop for a minute and really think about what you have said. Do you not see how us bombing an entire region of the planet then stealing its natural resources would turn out very badly for us?

Here's a hint. There are over a billion Muslims in this world and some of them control countries that also have nuclear weapons.