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mineistaken

10-31-2017 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 22057700)

Hahahahahahahhaha,one time thing? Let?s just go back 10 years and look at all the mass shootings. Who?s doing them you fucking idiot. Hint it?s not Muslims.

The point is that all/most of these were just crazy people went nuts for random reasons while muslim attacks are all for the same - killing infidels for not being muslim.
It is strange that people do not grasp obvious things like that.

Ps: not saying that those attacks were not terrorism, just explaining the core difference.

Phoenix

10-31-2017 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 22057658)

It's saddened me as well. A guy kills 50+ and injures 200+ in a shooting rampage and everyone (especially on the right) screams about how we can't talk about gun control right after this happens because it would be disrespectful to the victims, but when a crazy terrorist dude kills people there is no hesitation to turn this into a political debate about who should and should not be banned from coming into the country.

yeah that was sad.

everything gets pegged into left or right too quickly

huey	10-31-2017 08:17 PM

Why is this a big deal in NY and this is not?

Eight people were killed, including a 64-year-old woman who was struck by a stray bullet, and at least 11 other people were wounded in shootings across Chicago between Friday evening and Monday morning.

OneHungLo

10-31-2017 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22057680)

Yes and 99% of those attacks were in Iraq and the ME...you can not unrest my nuts off of your forehead...

Yeah and? That's where 99% of the muslims live in the world. Basically wherever there are muslims you can find this shit. France practically has monthly attacks now because muslims are nearing 10% of the population and Germany is catching up since they are about 5%. Keep them sand rats in ME :thumbsup I'm sure most Serbs doesn't want them invading their country, and you fucking know it.

DraX	11-01-2017 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 22057622)

I forgot your alliances, so sorry for not being sure: this is a parody of SJWs, right? :1orglaugh

Yea, but I don't see any libbies cheering me, they on to me?

PS: Going downtown for a hug-a-muslim event this afternoon, it makes me feel like a good person for supporting the cause...:2 cents:

adultchatpay

11-01-2017 01:54 AM

So sad to hear

pimpmaster9000

11-01-2017 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22057716)

Yes 99% happen in US"liberated" Iraq and countries the USA has invaded...considering the USA founded and trained alquaeda and Isis, I find it hilarious you mention direct results of US foreign policy as "Muslims"...

Muslim farts = "weekly attacks in France" LOL meanwhile Americans average 1 mass shooting per day in the USA...the USA has an actual terrorism budget LOL only they call it """"""""""""""""""""defense"""""""""""""""""

Sarn	11-01-2017 02:55 AM

poor people

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 22057542)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNf-dl-WAAAr8gG.jpg

facepalm

Paul Markham

11-01-2017 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22057474)

how could trump forget uzbekistan on his list of unwanted ;-)
and how will his wall stop LEGAL immigrants who have even a US ID from doing that?

This is true. It proves Trump isn't going far enough to protect Americans.

Paul Markham

11-01-2017 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22057504)

Let me see if I understand this correctly....

58 in vegas, not Muslim terror.
8 in NYC, Muslim terror.

9/11 in New York 2,996 people killed by terrorist.

Paul Markham

11-01-2017 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22057510)

Vegas was a one time thing.

Killing people from a hotel window was a one, two time thing. Americans killing other Americans is an hourly occurrence.

BaldBastard

11-01-2017 03:41 AM

How about looking at the guys mental health instead of stereotyping it in to an religious thing. First I highly doubt ISIS trains people to commit terrorist acts with fake guns, especially in the USA where they are so reliably available.

Paul Markham

11-01-2017 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 22057530)

I read 4,500 foreign former ISIS fighters are thought to be making their way 'home' most are returning to Europe.

Attacks like these are going to become a more and more of a common occurrence -- for them the war is not over :2 cents:

Sad day indeed.

No one who went to the ME to fight should be allowed back into the West. They obviously prefer the ME so let them settle there. And the Muslims they went to kill will deal with them.

Paul Markham

11-01-2017 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 22057638)

You mean that Trump could not keep you safe !!!!!!!

Damn ...... :disgust

No, he was stopped by the Supreme Court. The SJWs can't keep you safe.

Paul Markham

11-01-2017 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 22057658)

It's saddened me as well. A guy kills 50+ and injures 200+ in a shooting rampage and The NRA and the people taking their money (especially on the right) screams about how we can't talk about gun control right after this happens because it would be disrespectful to the victims, but when a crazy terrorist dude kills people there is no hesitation to turn this into a political debate about who should and should not be banned from coming into the country.

Edited to make it correct. This terrorist had a pellet gun and paint gun.

astronaut x

11-01-2017 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 22057508)

Whose mouth are you putting this in?

You want something in your mouth?

astronaut x

11-01-2017 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22057906)

Killing people from a hotel window was a one, two time thing. Americans killing other Americans is an hourly occurrence.

You see, that was an intelligent statement.

Personally, I don't post political shit on Facebook anymore. I do here quite often though. I have had friends who were liberals attack me for calling them out on some of their bullshit. We need to correct people when they are wrong or spreading misinformation. Even when they are people we often times agree with.

It is our duty to come together and work out our differences because we are nothing when we are divided.

Paul Markham

11-01-2017 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 22057706)

Islam is about ruling the World. Mohammed made it very clear that it's the duty of Muslims to dominate the world and other religions have to bend to Islam and pay taxes to exist.

This is what Europe has had to endure from Islam.

Battle of Tours

Muslim Spain (711-1492)

Battle of Vienna

Fall of Constantinople

Ottoman rule in the Balkans

Siege of Jerusalem (636?637)

The very first thing place to be conquered violently by Mohammed. Conquest of Mecca

They worship men who love conquering people from the very beginning. Today's terrorists groups are carrying on the tradition Mohammed started.

Barry-xlovecam

11-01-2017 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22057912)

Good point.

thommy

11-01-2017 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22057900)

This is true. It proves Trump isn't going far enough to protect Americans.

i am pretty sure he will build a wall to the border of usbekistan ;-)

Phoenix

11-01-2017 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22057912)

That is a fair statement, at least the first sentence.

thommy

11-01-2017 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22057906)

Killing people from a hotel window was a one, two time thing. Americans killing other Americans is an hourly occurrence.

when do you guys finally understand one thing:

when the day comes (and BECAUSE of your hate it WILL) when every muslim in this world is throwing a bomb - there is no USA anymore.

you do not need to be scared the nukes of kim anymore because usa will be history.

there are 2 billion muslims on this planet and possibly 1% of them hates us so much that they don´t even care a suicide attack. up to know maybe 0,0001% of them did it.

you guys with all your hate and blindness working hard to bring all 2 billion in that mode.

if that day comes, no wall no nuke, no army and no hate and no trump will help you anymore.

if they would bomb and kill just the ones who are responsable for that hate - fine - i would enjoy to watch that spectacle. but unfortunately in the mode of hate, they will react EXACTLY like you guys and don´t make a difference between the haters and the smarts.

just a punk

11-01-2017 04:57 AM

Not sure it was a terrorist attack. Perhaps just a crazy motherfucker. It's very good that he was not killed and taken alive. I believe they will find a way to make him speak.

Grapesoda

11-01-2017 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22057356)

Could it be homegrown or someone from a country Trump wanted to ban?

this would not even be classified as terrorism if big ears were still pres.

hjnet

11-01-2017 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22057504)

Let me see if I understand this correctly....

58 in vegas, not terror.
8 in NYC, terror.

"Terrorism is, in the broadest sense, the use of intentionally indiscriminate violence as a means to create terror, or fear, to achieve a political, religious or ideological aim."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism

NewNick

11-01-2017 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22057624)

Sayfullo Habibullavevic Saipov

People with names like that shouldn't even be allowed in the USA!

Where do you live again ?

What is your nationality ?

The Porn Nerd

11-01-2017 11:55 AM

How about we just stop renting trucks to Muslim dudes with beards? Let's start there.

Oh - and sorry "peaceful" Muslims. You cannot control or even speak out against these types of attacks so guess what? You are guilty too, just like every Christian is partly guilty for believing in a religion that can lead someone to blow up an abortion clinic.

We need to STOP religious zealotry no matter what religion we are discussing.

bronco67

11-01-2017 12:09 PM

Ironically, this guy killed 2 Americans and the others were Argentinian tourists.

But anyway, Trump is all upset and reactionary over this event, while WAY more people have been killed recently by crazy Americans (uhhhh, Las Vegas). Why not politicize that fact?

pimpmaster9000

11-01-2017 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22058476)

1) much much more muslims get killed by terrorists than any other group
2) the USA drops 25.000 bombs/year on average...this is pure terrorism no matter how you look at it

so "peaceful" american...why not start with condemning your own bomb dropping? :2 cents:

Acepimp

11-01-2017 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 22058484)

Trump is all upset and reactionary over this event, while WAY more people have been killed recently by crazy Americans (uhhhh, Las Vegas). Why not politicize that fact?

Las Vegas was not one crazy person, it was a pro mercenary team. But since you brought up Las Vegas, where 60 people were killed, you should also bring up Chicago, where 60 people are killed every week. Mostly black on black crime. Why not politicize that fact?

:pimp

thommy

11-01-2017 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22058476)

in that case i am 100% with you - but it is not ONLY religion what can create hate on everyone who does not think or look as one self.
all this " we are better, we are wiser, we are the privileged" have to be stopped.
it starts with national bride and ends in brainwashing sects.

PR_Glen

11-01-2017 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22058496)

umm what?

The Porn Nerd

11-01-2017 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22058488)

Condemn it? I wish they bombed them MORE.
In fact, I say drop a nuke on the entire Middle East. We go in with hasmat suits and get all the oil. Multiple problems solved.

Look, Muslims simply do not want to live in a world with the rest of us. They want EVERYONE to be like them and they will kill anyone who is different. Human beings like this cannot be allowed to exist on the same planet as other human beings. So eradicate them.

They cannot be convinced to be civilized. They cannot be convinced to "play nice" and accept other cultures. So: buh-bye BOOM.

thommy

11-01-2017 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22058640)

Condemn it? I wish they bombed them MORE.
In fact, I say drop a nuke on the entire Middle East. We go in with hasmat suits and get all the oil. Multiple problems solved.

so that means you can understand that kim jong un have the same right to say and do that?

fine - let´s wait who is first.

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Look, Muslims simply do not want to live in a world with the rest of us. They want EVERYONE to be like them and they will kill anyone who is different. Human beings like this cannot be allowed to exist on the same planet as other human beings. So eradicate them.

maybe this day will come. why should they not want to kill people who want to nuke them?

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They cannot be convinced to be civilized. They cannot be convinced to "play nice" and accept other cultures. So: buh-bye BOOM.

and WHO do you think is the civilzed one ?

do you really think america is civilized?
an country with the most imprinsioned in the world - a country where even prisons are in private hands doing all to get the "customers" back - a country with the most humicides in the world - a country with most drug addicted people who are drug addicted because they can´t pay for the meds - a country what lives from war and exports war is civilized?

no - it´s not. there ARE civilized people there - and a lot of REALLY nice people - but also people like you and a few others here who are not the majority but they are louder as the majority is. and the loud voices are heard all over the world and THIS is the image of america. and you wonder why america and the western world have so many enemies?
start with yourself to change and you will see that the world will change.

The Porn Nerd

11-01-2017 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22058684)

so that means you can understand that kim jong un have the same right to say and do that?

fine - let´s wait who is first.

maybe this day will come. why should they not want to kill people who want to nuke them?

and WHO do you think is the civilzed one ?

do you really think america is civilized?
an country with the most imprinsioned in the world - a country where even prisons are in private hands doing all to get the "customers" back - a country with the most humicides in the world - a country with most drug addicted people who are drug addicted because they can´t pay for the meds - a country what lives from war and exports war is civilized?

no - it´s not. there ARE civilized people there - and a lot of REALLY nice people - but also people like you and a few others here who are not the majority but they are louder as the majority is. and the loud voices are heard all over the world and THIS is the image of america. and you wonder why america and the western world have so many enemies?
start with yourself to change and you will see that the world will change.

As with most of these arguments you have your head turned around. Stop being backwards. I want to nuke them BECAUSE they have the ideology I described. No one can deny this and even you do not try to. It's fact. Radical Muslims want all Westerners dead and it has ZERO to do with the "reasons" you laid out. Don't believe in Allah and Mo-mo? You must die. End of discussion.

As for crimes WITHIN the US having the most (We're #1! We're #1!) does not mean other "civilized" countries have zero of these crimes. So which country IS "civilized" in your opinion? Chances are they have homicides, prisons and drug problems, too.

MY definition of 'civilized': religious tolerance. Don't kill anyone in the name of your God. That's it really, quite simple! America's "crimes" can be summed up as lust for money and power. We are not bombing the world 'cause Jesus told us to. HUGE difference.

Next.

PS: I am a NEW YORKER. Not simply "American". Another huge difference. And our reputation around the world is stellar.

kane	11-01-2017 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22058640)

The argument about Muslims and their ability to get along with the rest of the world aside, stop for a minute and really think about what you have said. Do you not see how us bombing an entire region of the planet then stealing its natural resources would turn out very badly for us?

Here's a hint. There are over a billion Muslims in this world and some of them control countries that also have nuclear weapons.

DraX	11-01-2017 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22058704)

I hear you, but hard to reason with folks like Thommy, he already got it all figured out.

Sarn	11-01-2017 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 22058714)

...
Here's a hint. There are over a billion Muslims in this world and some of them control countries that also have nuclear weapons.

:1orglaugh
https://dailytimes.com.pk/static/upl...24157066c8.jpg

Barry-xlovecam

11-01-2017 03:31 PM

Best solution is to put the advanced world in the situation where it does not need 'their' oil and gas (LNG, LPG) for energy. Then foreign policy will be more objective. This is 10 to 20 years away -- if we work at it seriously and in earnest.

From the 'muzzie' perspective: Over 10,000 (some say 40,000) ISIS maniac soldiers have been liquidated. As direct collateral damage of US led and Russian lead military operations -- 3,000 to 5,000 reported civilian deaths have occurred. So the return damage is maybe 1 for 10? 1 for 50 overall.

You didn't think there would be a sickening retribution?

kane	11-01-2017 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 22058786)

Many of these countries really only have a couple things to offer, oil and natural gas as well as cheap labor. If we can get away from buying their oil and gas that will go a long way towards helping us. The cheap labor fuels them but that will change with time as robots and automation make cheap labor obsolete.

I find myself wondering how they will act once they have even less to offer the world.

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