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BigFurry 11-22-2017 04:17 AM

Thanks for the warning.

OP's complaints look legit, will stay away from this sponsor.

Wilsy 11-22-2017 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XSAXS (Post 22081899)
Shill much Richard @ Sextronix ???

Seriously, that's all you got?

You come in here with a sophomoric attempt at humor, and without an explanation? Without verifiable proof that you've corrected the problems?

I've documented that with 3 clicks anyone can prove your famous "NO SHAVE" promise is pure bullshit. I've documented that you are blatantly OVERWRITING affiliate cookies with another affiliate code.

And you're trying to crack jokes?

:1orglaugh

Richard has not been with Sextronix for a long time, just can't change his Skype name

Tjeezers 11-22-2017 06:22 AM

I managed to replicate the problem, meaning, i did manage to see my cookie be overwritten.

Did it with absolute handjobs
Had this popup, clicked it away

Pressed JOIN link on the original page and my promo code changed to :
15673:PPS:stay:C

Same number as OP, so I think this thread needs a few bumps from other affiliates whom can take 3 minutes to replicate the problem.

Mines is 124XXX

Weird shit, very troubling.

The Porn Nerd 11-22-2017 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InfoGuy (Post 22081819)
What were the complaints?

Some of them were the usual complaints - fake profiles, not enough girls - but I also got a couple complaining of being overcharged when they signed on so I dropped them. It's been years now.

LouiseLloyd 11-23-2017 05:32 AM

Thanks XSAXS

bns666 11-23-2017 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 22081701)
I give no fucks about anything else. I am here to make money with my traffic.

someone can pay me $20 a join or $200 a join, they can pay me 25% or 75% revshare, I dont give a shit about the payout, it is irrelevant.

earning per click is the only thing that matters.

EPC still has to depend on things like how much you get pps or revshare %?

bloggerz 11-23-2017 07:50 AM

Well that sucks....

XSAXS 11-23-2017 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LouiseLloyd (Post 22082501)
Thanks XSAXS

Welcome.

Only wish someone from Sextronix would come in here with *verifiable* good news for us.

But I doubt we'll see it at this point. Their entire business model seems to depend on fucking over their surfers. Reminds me of CECash / CashTraffic, and so many others.

No wonder people stopped paying for porn.

Konda 11-23-2017 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bns666 (Post 22082508)
EPC still has to depend on things like how much you get pps or revshare %?

it's irrelevant

for example:

program X pays $50 PPS, sent 10,000 clicks, get 3 sales: EPC $0.015
program Y pays $20 PPS, sent 10,000 clicks, get 8 sales: EPC $0.016
program Z pays $30 PPS, filled with traffic leaks, sent 10,000 clicks, get 8 sales: EPC $0.024

you would still be best of sending to program Z, despite the traffic leaks

the only thing that matters is EPC (or earnings per impression if it's banner traffic)

Spunky 11-23-2017 08:17 AM

Bend over and smile for the man

Spunky 11-23-2017 08:18 AM

51 Misunderstandings ?

JFK 11-23-2017 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilsy (Post 22081918)
Richard has not been with Sextronix for a long time, just can't change his Skype name

Beat me to it :2 cents:

Cassandra24K 11-24-2017 02:50 PM

Hi Everyone,

After further investigation we have found that during our migration process there has been in fact a leak bug, after careful calculation we estimate it has been around 0.5%.

We have corrected this bug across all sites, the cookie issue has been resolved.

Next week we will be going through all accounts and will be correcting any missing signups that have been effected by this bug.

I would further like to add that as a team and company we are transparent with our affiliates and are willing to address any concerns as they happen - please be sure to reach out to us privately if there are further questions regarding this matter.

InfoGuy 11-24-2017 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cassandram (Post 22083312)
Hi Everyone,

After further investigation we have found that during our migration process there has been in fact a leak bug, after careful calculation we estimate it has been around 0.5%.

Translation, we got caught fucking over our affiliates, so let's admit there was a teeny tiny problem caused by a programming error and hope affiliates are stupid enough to trust us again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cassandram (Post 22083312)
Next week we will be going through all accounts and will be correcting any missing signups that have been effected by this bug.

Translation, our affiliates are stupid and will continue to send traffic as long as we pretend to care and throw them a few crumbs.

Cassandra24K 11-24-2017 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InfoGuy (Post 22083419)
Translation, we got caught fucking over our affiliates, so let's admit there was a teeny tiny problem caused by a programming error and hope affiliates are stupid enough to trust us again.



Translation, our affiliates are stupid and will continue to send traffic as long as we pretend to care and throw them a few crumbs.

I am sorry that you feel the need to continue the public slandering - I find it both distasteful and inaccurate.

XSAXS 11-25-2017 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cassandram (Post 22083443)
I am sorry that you feel the need to continue the public slandering - I find it both distasteful and inaccurate.

https://i.imgur.com/jBr0M6J.jpg

Cassandram, there's no slander in this thread. Slander = False claims. My claims were well documented and confirmed by other independent webmasters.

It should be noted, cassandram, that your latest update directly and blatantly contradicts your first defensive post.
"there is no [cookie] over ride at all for any pops of any kind"
-vs-
"leak bug" (whatever the hell that means)
and
"We have corrected this bug across all sites, the cookie issue has been resolved."

Despite your grandiose "NO SHAVE" claims, you guys got caught overwriting affiliate cookies -- in an obvious and prolific way. Your .5% claim is pure bullshit, and you know it. You know this has been going on for years. It's precisely why I pulled my links long ago.

-----

Having said that... it seems that you've cleaned it up a lot now. I just tested my links. It appears that my cookies are sticking, and are not being overwritten. A dramatic improvement.

Other positive points to mention...
  1. The join form leaks have been fixed. They no longer link out to console-enabled tours. Massive improvement.
  2. The tour page leak drawer (fixed to the bottom of some tour pages) is still there, but it seems that the cookies now persist from site to site. This was positively NOT the case previously as you claimed. Much improved.
  3. It appears that the Black Friday console no longer overwrites affiliate cookies like it did previously. Much better.
  4. The join page console (when backing off the join page) is gone. So cookies appear to persist even when the surfer leaves the join page. Good.
  5. In my test, I didn't see the notorious 15673 cookie at all.

Final thoughts...
  1. Note my use of *seems* and *appears* above. Sextronix could be faking these improvements. If they want to shave you, they'll find a way. In any case, Sextronix has proven that you have to watch them closely. I suggest you check your links/cookies carefully and often if you decide to promote them.
  2. Sextronix' entire business model is still built on fucking surfers with fine print and cross sells. Obviously, that's nothing new in this industry -- but $100+ on a "free" signup is pure shit (you fucking hear me CECash, WhaleCash, et. al?). That business model is dying and if you want to keep up, it's time to adapt. Now. :2 cents:
  3. Sextronix has been around since the stone ages. While many others have disappeared, they're still here.
  4. Sextronix always paid me (when I promoted them). Every time. And I can't say that about several other sponsors I've used.
  5. That's why I have a lingering hope they'll get their shit together. Reinvent themselves. And begin building a new legacy.

Somebody please check my findings. I'm interested to see if anyone else notices the improvements and/or if you even care any more.

astronaut x 11-25-2017 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 22081370)
perhaps they are not on here all the time ?:2 cents:

too busy thinking up new ways to scam affiliates? :2 cents:

astronaut x 11-25-2017 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cassandram (Post 22083312)
Hi Everyone,

After further investigation we have found that during our migration process there has been in fact a leak bug, after careful calculation we estimate it has been around 0.5%.

We have corrected this bug across all sites, the cookie issue has been resolved.

Next week we will be going through all accounts and will be correcting any missing signups that have been effected by this bug.

I would further like to add that as a team and company we are transparent with our affiliates and are willing to address any concerns as they happen - please be sure to reach out to us privately if there are further questions regarding this matter.

Your "explanation" clearly does not address the claims being made by the OP.

So.. wow.

Mediamix 11-25-2017 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cassandram (Post 22083312)
We have corrected this bug across all sites, the cookie issue has been resolved.

Next week we will be going through all accounts and will be correcting any missing signups that have been effected by this bug.

Bug? Stop lying.. You fucked affiliates over and are now responding this way because someone pointed that out and showed proof. You're company made a bad move and you should feel bad for supporting it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cassandram (Post 22083312)
Please be sure to reach out to us privately if there are further questions regarding this matter.

Why private? Looks like this is a good way to be sure people chime in and get the response affiliates need. :2 cents:

You fucked up, people pulled their links and you guys need to fix that. Not in private, but in public.. So you can earn our trust and traffic back.

Because your business is not the only business we can promote as affiliates. :winkwink:

Please be honest from now on... Stop the shady tactics.

Boozer 11-25-2017 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cassandram (Post 22083312)
after careful calculation we estimate it has been around 0.5%.

Just curious how you arrived at this number.

XSAXS 11-26-2017 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mediamix (Post 22083985)
Why private?

Because she desperately wants this thread to sink away into oblivion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mediamix (Post 22083985)
Looks like this is a good way to be sure people chime in and get the response affiliates need.

You fucked up, people pulled their links and you guys need to fix that. Not in private, but in public.. So you can earn our trust and traffic back.

Because your business is not the only business we can promote as affiliates. :winkwink:

Please be honest from now on... Stop the shady tactics.

I could not agree more. I know a lot of sponsors have it hard. But affiliates have zero recourse and the sponsors know it. Public accountability is right and necessary in this biz. :2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boozer (Post 22083988)
Just curious how you arrived at this number.

Opened someone's ass, reached in deep, pulled out the lowest number they could find.

The number simply cannot be that low. That join form exit console was overwriting every single cookie I tested. Every single time. Without fail. The only avenue to avoid the overwrite was to join directly through one of the fake-video join forms.

Any excursion through signup.html would result in an overwrite.
Any leaked clicks to a console-enabled tour would result in an overwrite.

I cannot say how long this lasted, but I know it had been going on to different degrees for a very long while (years).

That's why _Richard_ is not off the hook in my mind, though I'm not sure when he left.

Gary - AWP 11-30-2017 04:39 PM

I see no good response, links pulled, great research bro :pimp

SpicyM 11-30-2017 05:20 PM

yeah.. it was an accident, some nasty bug ripping off their affiliates appeared mysteriously on all their sites :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Shitster 11-30-2017 05:25 PM

Great info man, thanks!

Matyko 12-01-2017 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cassandram (Post 22083443)
I am sorry that you feel the need to continue the public slandering - I find it both distasteful and inaccurate.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/...d-facepalm.jpg

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopo...n13s-1-web.jpg

This thread stinks :(

incredibleworkethic 12-01-2017 02:18 AM

As always I wish / hoped for a quick resolution in these threads. Thanks for proving your concern and the rest of us able to test it ourselves and decide if we want to promote them or not.

Tjeezers 12-01-2017 07:40 AM

Link removal will take a long time, but it will be done. Your name colored red on our sheets and this means Good bey.

Tjeezers 12-01-2017 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XSAXS (Post 22083803)

Somebody please check my findings. I'm interested to see if anyone else notices the improvements and/or if you even care any more.

I replicated the problem last week, just wondering if the posters here who jumped in for them, did they do this cause they are not affected, or did not took the time to replicate the problem?

This question needs a clear answer so we can see if only affiliates with certain qualifications got screwed, like sending to less traffic or something? that could be a qualification? Its a shame to see how they dealt with this.

CaptainHowdy 12-01-2017 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary - AWP (Post 22093209)
I see no good response, links pulled, great research bro :pimp

I'm your father, Gary ...

InfoGuy 12-19-2017 03:12 PM

To the top

Brian mike 05-12-2019 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InfoGuy (Post 22124784)
To the top

relauched ? https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-p...-relaunch.html

The one sextronic rep that replied to this thread work for centro now. :2 cents:

babeterminal 05-12-2019 06:34 AM

thanks i missed this one
strange my last payment from them was around the time of this thread post

Cassandra24K 05-24-2019 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22468276)
relauched ? https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-p...-relaunch.html

The one sextronic rep that replied to this thread work for centro now. :2 cents:

Tis true I jumped ship, however, I wish DTX the best. Currently working with a super unique and interesting product, I think we are the first to bring it market - so far the results are poppin'! :2 cents:

babeterminal 05-24-2019 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cassandram (Post 22475074)
Tis true I jumped ship, however, I wish DTX the best. Currently working with a super unique and interesting product, I think we are the first to bring it market - so far the results are poppin'! :2 cents:

i hope i am on the lambo raffle

Tjeezers 05-27-2019 01:46 PM

Someone noticed they came up with a new program design?

I did... Looks nice. The support ticket was answered in 4 hours btw, maybe any of you still needs to talk to them to work things out then herby I can assure you that they are alive and answering tickets.

Cheers

Cassandra24K 05-23-2020 08:54 PM

. . . . . .

celandina 05-24-2020 07:13 AM

Bumping old threads which are no longer relevant .... foolish !

celandina 05-24-2020 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cassandram (Post 22672710)
. . . . . .

Get rid off that stupid thing its annoying !

Barnaba 07-23-2020 10:41 AM

they don't pay affiliates, there's no contact with them.:mad:

Tjeezers 07-27-2020 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barnaba (Post 22706864)
they don't pay affiliates, there's no contact with them.:mad:

Show me at least a screen where you have your unpaid amount printed out.


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