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Paul Markham 12-12-2017 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22112349)
because this is the way how money can circle. If you do not give to your buyers they will not be able to buy.

and the logic is: as soon as they are getting better they will also do their part and pay in instead of receiving.

very logic or not ?

Do you mean free stuff?



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i am really shocked sometimes how small your knowledge is about economy and how few you know about the facts.

the growth of greece and germany is not so much different anymore. if germany would not fight for helping greece and do what the brits want that money would already been lost.

at the moment greece have a higher growth as britain and germany is only in the middle field.

look here

rumania, what is on top of the list was once the biggest receiver - this year they are near to zero and next year they will be a payer.
so WHERE are all those forcast szenarios ?

but if you want to see a nice forecast than look this one

you had your time of populism and now you have your time to approve that you are right.
but all economic logic says that britain will fail and countries like scottland and northern ireland will leave the UK and join the EU.

and when the time comes when britain awakes and want to correct this big mistake i really hope that they will not receive just a friendly FUCK YOU !

So give them loads of free stuff until they are strong.

https://econographics.files.wordpres...by-country.jpg

http://www.businessforscotland.com/w...4/eurodebt.jpg

With your superior knowledge of economics tell me how Romania and Greece doing now. Good luck selling all the lost car sales in Romania. Is that pye chart with the EU pouring money into Romania or not?

It will be very bad for the EU and the UK if there isn't a trade deal. The UK needs to get out and re-establish trade links with the rest of the world. The EU is stuck with the EU and whatever they can cobble together.

thommy 12-12-2017 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22112766)
Do you mean free stuff?



So give them loads of free stuff until they are strong.

https://econographics.files.wordpres...by-country.jpg

http://www.businessforscotland.com/w...4/eurodebt.jpg

With your superior knowledge of economics tell me how Romania and Greece doing now. Good luck selling all the lost car sales in Romania. Is that pye chart with the EU pouring money into Romania or not?

It will be very bad for the EU and the UK if there isn't a trade deal. The UK needs to get out and re-establish trade links with the rest of the world. The EU is stuck with the EU and whatever they can cobble together.

paul, go to get some facts and look on the calendar it is nearly 2018 you do not have to come up with numbers from 2012.

it does really not make sense to explain you how economy is working - you are not educated to understand it and thatīs why you will never understand why all goes wrong for you and the sites you take.

i would not tell you to go back to school because you are definately too old for that but believe me that there are many many many MUCH more educated people who will tell you the same as i do.

in 2 or 3 years you can see it with your own eyes but i am pretty sure you will not admit the incapability of your knowledge. you will search for another enemy because you can not live with the fact being too stupid for a lot of things.
i would not say that you are the TYPICAL trump supporter but this is what you have in common with them. you talk a lot of bullshit about things that you have neither studied nor even understood in any way.

i am sure you are a big soccerfan. one of this thousands of idiots watching a game and ALL of them know how to play better as the professionals. bad only that most of them arenīt even good enough to play in the last league.

Tasty1 12-12-2017 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22111206)
good decision - i was at the conference too and i am now back here in Pattaya and will have a drink with you at any time you want (as long as you do not bring trump :-)

Great, contact you next week. Still having a cold from the airco.
Maybe talk about bitcoin? Is it a ponzi or not :)

Tasty1 12-12-2017 09:34 PM

Ps, according to this Dutch EU member Paul is right. Just had an interview today.

https://www.telegraaf.nl/financieel/...ee-in-zijn-val

The 3 - 4 richer countries will pay, others will receive. Will be a structural transfer from money from north to south.
This will be the case for decades he says. Even France want more more more money.
It will be like Belgium, rich part paying for the poor part. For many many decades.
Only Belgium gives more privileges to the paying part (not possible in the EU)
But just an opinion from a former Dutch EU member (not right wing, but VVD)

So we will see which economist will be right..

Steve Rupe 12-12-2017 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22113069)
paul, go to get some facts and look on the calendar it is nearly 2018 you do not have to come up with numbers from 2012.

it does really not make sense to explain you how economy is working - you are not educated to understand it and thatīs why you will never understand why all goes wrong for you and the sites you take.

i would not tell you to go back to school because you are definately too old for that but believe me that there are many many many MUCH more educated people who will tell you the same as i do.

in 2 or 3 years you can see it with your own eyes but i am pretty sure you will not admit the incapability of your knowledge. you will search for another enemy because you can not live with the fact being too stupid for a lot of things.
i would not say that you are the TYPICAL trump supporter but this is what you have in common with them. you talk a lot of bullshit about things that you have neither studied nor even understood in any way.

i am sure you are a big soccerfan. one of this thousands of idiots watching a game and ALL of them know how to play better as the professionals. bad only that most of them arenīt even good enough to play in the last league.

You have Markham nailed to the T. He is ignorant and definitely not educated in almost all subjects that he speaks about. He is a troll, no more than that.

davidCRM 12-13-2017 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 22108482)
I think the EU will fragment into a few separate unions within the next 5-10 years...

that actually makes sense

nordics - baltic - benelux - germaphone - "latin" - balkan - V4

thommy 12-13-2017 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by davidCRM (Post 22114035)
that actually makes sense

nordics - baltic - benelux - germaphone - "latin" - balkan - V4

loool - true ! maybe even within streets or better for paul and friends are trading agreements within political groups.

so in that case the "leftwing amsterdam south trading union" against the "rightwing amsterdam south trading union"

Paul Markham 12-13-2017 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22113069)
paul, go to get some facts and look on the calendar it is nearly 2018 you do not have to come up with numbers from 2012.

it does really not make sense to explain you how economy is working - you are not educated to understand it and thatīs why you will never understand why all goes wrong for you and the sites you take.

i would not tell you to go back to school because you are definately too old for that but believe me that there are many many many MUCH more educated people who will tell you the same as i do.

in 2 or 3 years you can see it with your own eyes but i am pretty sure you will not admit the incapability of your knowledge. you will search for another enemy because you can not live with the fact being too stupid for a lot of things.
i would not say that you are the TYPICAL trump supporter but this is what you have in common with them. you talk a lot of bullshit about things that you have neither studied nor even understood in any way.

i am sure you are a big soccerfan. one of this thousands of idiots watching a game and ALL of them know how to play better as the professionals. bad only that most of them arenīt even good enough to play in the last league.

So enlightened one please tell us lower beings where you see the growth of the EU.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/special/bu...img/eu_gdp.gif

https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info...nflation_3.png

https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/i...1371803160.png

http://ablog.typepad.com/.a/6a00e554...6d7c75c970c-pi

You should check the facts before replying.

Paul Markham 12-13-2017 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 22113876)
Ps, according to this Dutch EU member Paul is right. Just had an interview today.

https://www.telegraaf.nl/financieel/...ee-in-zijn-val

The 3 - 4 richer countries will pay, others will receive. Will be a structural transfer from money from north to south.
This will be the case for decades he says. Even France want more more more money.
It will be like Belgium, rich part paying for the poor part. For many many decades.
Only Belgium gives more privileges to the paying part (not possible in the EU)
But just an opinion from a former Dutch EU member (not right wing, but VVD)

So we will see which economist will be right..

That has always been the way the EU works. Without the UK the burden falls on the remaining richer nations. Which is why so many are getting deeper into debt.

https://disenchantedscholar.files.wo...s-oct-2013.jpg

Just borrow more money to cover the expense of being in the EU.

Paul Markham 12-13-2017 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22114056)
loool - true ! maybe even within streets or better for paul and friends are trading agreements within political groups.

so in that case the "leftwing amsterdam south trading union" against the "rightwing amsterdam south trading union"

A much easier way to break it up would be those who contribute, leaving those who take out behind. Of course, you can opt to keep giving money to the bottomless pit. Romania needs more money to buy more German cars, how much can you afford?

Klen 12-13-2017 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22114356)
A much easier way to break it up would be those who contribute, leaving those who take out behind. Of course, you can opt to keep giving money to the bottomless pit. Romania needs more money to buy more German cars, how much can you afford?

Here is fun fact for you: Germany was forced to pay more money to EU because they export "toomuch".
So in shortly, yes we need money to buy german cars :1orglaugh

pimpmaster9000 12-13-2017 06:46 AM

pauls plan when the consequences arrive:

https://i.imgur.com/dqcPew7.jpg


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

thommy 12-13-2017 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22114356)
A much easier way to break it up would be those who contribute, leaving those who take out behind. Of course, you can opt to keep giving money to the bottomless pit. Romania needs more money to buy more German cars, how much can you afford?

possibly rumania will do that and that means that the economy in germany will be that good that germany have to pay more money into the EU pot to give it to them who are not good buyers yet.

fact is only that UK can now sink as much as they want and there will not be anyone who share profits or help them out.

this is what solidarity means.

btw. greece is meanwhile the 5th biggest buyer in the EU and they can do that with their OWN growth and not with new debts.

you see how all your warnings are blowing in the wind.

the problems do have actually only those countries what wants to go their own way.

so let them go and make their experiences - sure we all will loose time but the ones on the sunny side will stand that.

people forget to easy about the past. it is a human behaviour that you can always remember the good times better as you remember the bad times.
it is time again that some people have to work 3 years to buy a new TV or 10 years to buy a new car or eating shit the whole year to afford 7 holidays.
THESE are the good old times you want to bring back. ok you can do that for you - i do not care - but i will not want it for me and no one smart would want that.

thank you paul that you decided to be a porn producer and not a politician. my life and billions of other peopleīs life would not be so good if you would be in charge of economy.
possibly we would not even talk now because internet would not exist.

Sarn 12-13-2017 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22111674)
Yes you want EU disbanded and USSR back this is why you work so hard against USA,UK & EU :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/defau...06/Putin_2.png

klinton 12-13-2017 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22115094)

https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/w...stepan-a20.jpg


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