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Rochard 12-20-2017 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 22125456)

Also fuck you about healthcare, it's $1800 a month for me to have it.
$200 for me for the three of us. I'm guessing that's over.

GAMEFINEST 12-20-2017 09:01 AM
It mostly helps the rich. Thats the sad part.

tony286 12-20-2017 09:37 AM
Dont worry in the end , the righties will blame obama or the dem president who will have to clean up this mess.

tony286 12-20-2017 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Dead (Post 22125618)
This bill is loaded with good news for a small SCorp like myself and my employees...%15 corporate tax break means I will be able to keep paying for my employees healthcare, not that obama shit, real healthcare with low deductible.
Real Heath Care? Obama care actually covered things which is why it wasnt cheap. We used have cheap health care insurance and it covered nothing.

tony286 12-20-2017 09:45 AM
See this goes to show you the biggest leeches arent the single mom on food stamps or guy working harder than we can imagine at some shitty fast food job. Its the rich guy who lived in a country where you can rise from nothing to a millionaire and how do they show their gratitude? I want to pay as close to nothing to the country who gave me a system for my business to grow. They all talk how this is the greatest country in the world but dont want to help paying for the system that makes it the greatest system.

FYI wages arent going up and jobs arent going to be created . This isnt 1986, they didnt have technology like we have now. You dont need as many people and that's not going to change. This was a greatest robbery ever, this guy Trump has done.

crockett 12-20-2017 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 22124580)
A postcard to file your taxes ...

Amazing ...... if true .

https://psmag.com/.image/t_share/MTU...-869460734.jpg
Its not true..

crockett 12-20-2017 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22125729)
Now prepare yourself for the largest cuts in programs to pay for it.
No, were are not just talking about welfare, medicare and social security, programs that have been on the chopping block for the republicans since their inception, but where will the money come from to fund the FDA, FAA, FCC, EPA or any agency that protects and manages the money, land, water and air that it is not used in a way that is detrimental to the public. Just remember those cuts when poison food starts coming in from Mexico and China.

They have used the idea of deficit spending for years to cut programs they did not like and now, adding to the deficit larger than anyone in history with a tax cut so the importance of cutting programs comes front and center to pay for it.

The tax cuts that actually come my way are not worth what I will loose.
Perhaps everyone else fairs better.

But I will be the one asked to pay for the roads, water and other infrastructure required for corporations need to do biz.
Paying for jobs....
I owe my sole to the company store...
Actually, this tax cut is Republicans long term plab to kill social security, Medicare and welfare. This tax cut is going to put us in massive debt and 8 years down the road we wont have the money for ss welfae and medicare..

Rochard 12-20-2017 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Dead (Post 22125618)
This bill is loaded with good news for a small SCorp like myself and my employees...%15 corporate tax break means I will be able to keep paying for my employees healthcare, not that obama shit, real healthcare with low deductible.
No.... Your healthcare will go through the roof now. And you will get less for your money. They will have those "fake packages" like before.

VRPdommy 12-20-2017 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22126044)
No.... Your healthcare will go through the roof now. And you will get less for your money. They will have those "fake packages" like before.
Killing the ACA mandate was the way to repeal the ACA by sinking the costs to explode and everyone will be screaming to get rid of it.

I wonder if we could or should get rid of the requirement for auto insurance in most all states in the union ?

I don't see the difference !

Perhaps those voting on this measure can explain.
And while they are at it explain what it has to do with lowering my taxes since I will now need to pay higher prices for critical care of those that can not afford it at the hospital.
Lowering taxes 'maybe', but only raising my cost of living more than I save in taxes.
Quite a shell game isn't it.

kane 12-20-2017 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22126017)
Actually, this tax cut is Republicans long term plab to kill social security, Medicare and welfare. This tax cut is going to put us in massive debt and 8 years down the road we wont have the money for ss welfae and medicare..
Paul Ryan has already said next year they will focus on entitlement reform which, in Republican speak, means trying to privatize Social Security and cutting Medicare. They may also try to actually reform welfare/food stamps, but likely it means cuts.

Ryan, McConnell and rank and file GOP seem to have figured out that Trump will sign anything they put in front of him so long as they convince him it will make him look good. I think they are going to try to force through all the stuff they have wanted for a while before the 2018 midterms so if they lose control they still got what they wanted and if they don't lose control and there is backlash or things go badly, they can just drop it all in Trump's lap.

JFK 12-20-2017 02:37 PM
Fitty Tax Ripoff's :2 cents:

MK Ultra 12-20-2017 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22125849)
$200 for me for the three of us. I'm guessing that's over.
Wow, $200 per month for a family of 3? that's amazing!

When I tried to signup on Covered Ca they wanted over $800 just for me, and I don't think we're that far apart age wise.

So just between us... how much did you have to fudge your income levels to qualify for a subsidy that big? :error

BaldBastard 12-20-2017 04:57 PM
GOP tax bill: AT&T, Boeing among corporations rewarding employees | Fox Business

I just looked at 1 At&t

Annual Turnover 2016 163 Billion

- Tax rate dropped from 35% to 21%
In theory company will now save!!!

Tax on that @ %35 is 57.07 Billion
New Tax @ 21% is 22.82 Billion

At&T will save 34.23 Billion a year!

--

And from that they are going to invest an extra.. 1 billion and give employees a $1000 one off Extra Xmas bonus for 200,000 employees... 200 million

1 billion extra investment
0.2 billion in actual extra money for workers
34,000,000,000 for the company directors bonus..

So Much WINNING!!!!

CoolMikey 12-20-2017 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22126803)
GOP tax bill: AT&T, Boeing among corporations rewarding employees | Fox Business

I just looked at 1 At&t

Annual Turnover 2016 163 Billion

- Tax rate dropped from 35% to 21%
In theory company will now save!!!

Tax on that @ %35 is 57.07 Billion
New Tax @ 21% is 22.82 Billion

At&T will save 34.23 Billion a year!

--

And from that they are going to invest an extra.. 1 billion and give employees a $1000 one off Extra Xmas bonus for 200,000 employees... 200 million

1 billion extra investment
0.2 billion in actual extra money for workers
34,000,000,000 for the company directors bonus..

So Much WINNING!!!!
Taxes are paid on profit, not turnover. ATT has about 8% profit margin, so you need to multiply all your numbers by .08.

If you think that ATT is making out great on this new tax deal, buy their stock and enjoy the easy $$, not sure where the problem is?

Dead 12-20-2017 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22125717)
S Corps don't pay a corporate tax. Who has an S Corp and doesn't know this??
The Fuk?
Never owned one?

Dead 12-20-2017 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 22125948)
Real Heath Care? Obama care actually covered things which is why it wasnt cheap. We used have cheap health care insurance and it covered nothing.
Righttttttttttttt so you have to have a procedure,....you need a stitch in the tip of your finger and I need a stint? Gaurennnnnnnnnnnnnfukinteed I get seen first,. Jus sayin

baddog 12-20-2017 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Dead (Post 22127040)
The Fuk?
Never owned one?
I have an S corp; I pay taxes on profits via my personal income tax.

Dead 12-20-2017 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 22127046)
I have an S corp; I pay taxes on profits via my personal income tax.
I have never missed a payment....Like clockwork if you keep on the level...

Dead 12-20-2017 06:59 PM
And the rest is numbers and said profit. You can not beat the taxman but can live a very good life on corporate draws and a good accountant


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