goddamn all you broke losers are pathetic

They have over 2 trillion now before bringing
The money back. Read the Bloomberg piece. I hope you and your family have a great Xmas and very happy new year.

France --- 9.7%

https://tradingeconomics.com/france/unemployment-rate

Italy --- 11.1%

https://tradingeconomics.com/italy/unemployment-rate

Spain --- 16.38%

https://tradingeconomics.com/spain/unemployment-rate

Greece -- 20.5%

https://tradingeconomics.com/greece/unemployment-rate

Its not falling dramatically everywhere in the world...

In 2013 Italy's unemployment rate was at 12.9%, Spain was at 26.2%, and Greece was at 27.9%. the European Union went from 10.9% to 7.5%. So yea, it has been falling everywhere.

During Obama...

Greece went from less than 5% to over 25%

Italy went from less than 6% to over 12%

Spain went from less than 10% to over 25%

France went from less than 7% to over 10%

Every one of those countries unemployment rate started going up during the great recession and started heading downwards in 2013. Yea it's Obama. :1orglaugh

^^^ Fred is allergic to facts. "Economy is raging because of Obama! Obama was scandal-free! Trump is a criminal con man!"

^^ Absolutely hysterical nonsense.

Robbie is correct. Move on with life guys, there's more to life than hating on Trump for made-up reasons :2 cents:

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:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You're not an American nor were you born here. Your opinion matters as much as the dog shit in my backyard.

First generation American buddy. Born in USA to immigrants who fled a communist regime & came here legally.

My opinions are based on facts. Try getting some facts :1orglaugh

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^^ Fake nic struggling to be relevant

You're late for your job as a gay fluffer, GayLiar.

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Bloomberg? You mean the SAME Bloomberg who endorsed Hillary Clinton in March of 2016 and stated that IF Trump won the presidency it would trigger a GLOBAL RECESSION???

You mean that un-biased guy whose economic prediction wasn't just wrong...it was 180 degrees backwards.

I love how some of y'all are CONVINCED that the economy is all thanks to Obama.

BUT...somehow the same people predicted the economy was going to crash if Trump were elected.
How can that be?

How COULD Trump have crashed the economy...since it's all Obama?

LOL!

The people saying this still can't face the facts that Trump has completely ERASED Obama's economic policies. You live by the Executive Order...you die by the Executive Order.

Donald Trump's MAIN campaign promise was to turn back all the things that Pres. Obama had done that he believed were bad for the economy (and I agree with him on that 100%).

Pres. Obama's "policies" have been dismantled. The economy IMMEDIATELY reacted to that in a positive way.

I think Pres. Obama did a lot of good things.
But, I think "ObamaCare" was a disaster, and that he didn't have a clue about the economy.

I voted FOR the economy 100%. And I have not been disappointed at all.

If many people and so-called "experts" like Bloomberg (who were all so, so WRONG with their predictions about what was going to happen) want to continue to try to demoralize people and be divisive...so be it.

I'm too busy enjoying this economy and the promise of it getting even better.

1.5% huh? And Pres. Obama even had the balls to say that Trump would need a "magic wand" to make this happen.

You see, that's the problem with elitists. Since they don't have the ability to do something...they just assume it CAN'T be done.

As Pres. Trump has said so many times in his speeches (and you'll never hear this on CNN)...it's time to "Dream big and bold"

No more "liberal" negativism and morose "Can't do" attitude.

^^ Dang, Robbie! Dropping facts like a wrecking ball! :thumbsup

Keep devastating these clowns with the truth. They might accept reality eventually :1orglaugh

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Obama was horrible for jobs...

"In the 10 previous recessions since the Great Depression, prior to this last recession, the economy recovered all jobs lost during the recession after an average of 25 months after the prior jobs peak (when the recession began), according to the records kept by the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis. So the job effects of prior post Depression recessions have lasted an average of about 2 years. But under President Obama, by April, 2013, 64 months after the prior jobs peak, almost 5½ years, we still have not recovered all of the recession?s job losses. In April, 2013, there were an estimated 135.474 million American workers employed, still down about 2.6 million jobs from the prior peak of 138.056 million in January, 2008."

"Obama?s so-called recovery included the longest period since the Great Depression with unemployment above 8%, 43 months, from February, 2009, when Obama?s so-called stimulus costing nearly $1 trillion was passed, until August, 2012. It also included the longest period since the Great Depression with unemployment at 9.0% or above, 30 months, from April, 2009, until September, 2011. "

https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterfe.../#7a57a2ac6dd5

Trying to rewrite history for the POTUS that dragged us out of the GOPP depression where they fucked over the American people, like they're doing this time around again. WoW.

Why is anyone trying to convince assholes who care about no other's plight than their own to stop being such an asshole? It would be like telling them to stop breathing....which hopefully they do very soon.

You should really volunteer if you care about the American people so much. All this time posting on AVN and XBiz could be put to use to help your fellow man...

And its not really re-writing history that Obama was horrible for jobs. Thats a fact. But you never let them stand in your way of deflecting...

I think with techinology as it is, no president is going to be amazing on job creatation. Alot companies are using these tax breaks for automation. No one will stop that. The days of the uneducated making a good living are over and no matter how much smoke trump blows its never coming back, never coming back.

Did u actually take the time to read the article ?

Tony Two-Times in the house!

Well since my business started when Obama was president I have been more focused on my own reality. LOL Plus I do not give two shots about "the poor". With some major exceptions, most"poor people" in America are under-educated lazy drunk fucks.

It's the Middle Class shrinking and disappearing that worries me. And I do not start political threads but I have absolutely railed against Democrats and Obama in the past.

But remember also: coming after eight years of Bush and his War Machine the economy was pretty abused and exploited when Obama came into office. He had to fix what Bush broke. And just when he DID "fix it" it was time for Trump to take over and claim all the credit!

Be honest Robbie: Trump woke up on third base but acts like he hit a triple.

The Middle Class is disappearing and shrinking because of a lack of good paying jobs.

The establishment politicians basically told us over the last 8 years that it's all over for us. No more "good times" economically. All good jobs are gone and never coming back.
GDP can never be more than 1.5% again.

All doom and gloom.

I never believed a word of it.
Pres. Jimmy Carter pretty much did the same thing in the late 1970's with his "Morose Speech".
America's greatest days were behind us and recession and high unemployment and low wages were going to be the new "norm".

Then Reagan came along. It was "Morning In America" (simple slogan...big results).

I've seen this play out in my own lifetime.

And if you look back at history you'll see the same thing over and over.

The only difference was Pres. Obama ended up winning re-election after failing to deliver on the "Summer of Recovery" of 2009.

Carter got his ass voted out of office for allowing 4 long years of economic disaster.

Obama got a pass because...he was our historic first black President.
Romney should have chewed him up because of the bad economy and his failure to do anything about it in 4 long years.
So we ended up with 8 long years.

Now..."Make America Great Again" is the new "Morning In America" slogan.

You are seeing it happen with your own eyes...but for some reason you have convinced yourself that you MUST hate Donald Trump.

You're not alone. Half the country seems seized up with hatred.

It's not healthy. And it doesn't reflect reality.

By the way the economy was NOT "abused" by Bush. It was doing very well.
The HOUSING MARKET collapsed. THAT is what destroyed the economy.

One of the things that Bush had nothing to do with.

But all of the Obama-pologists constantly repeat that ignorant mantra.

So once and for all...BUSH DID NOT HURT THE ECONOMY.
The housing market crashed. Banks were left losing billions of dollars on mortgage loans that were now all "underwater".
And like dominoes things went down.

Both Bush and Obama handed out a TRILLION dollars each...to the banks.

They COULD have handed out 2 trillion dollars to all the homeowners and let them pay off their mortgages and still saved the banks AND re-ignited the economy AND stopped a lot of misery.

But they both chose to hand money to the wealthy bank corporations instead.

And the middle class shrunk.
And during Pres. Obama's presidency...the workforce participation fell to it's lowest in over 40 years among qualified people of working age (not retired senior citizens like the Obama-pologists tried to claim...they are NEVER counted in the workforce participation numbers). Food stamps were at a high. People on welfare at a high.
And the wealth gap grew much, much larger than before.

You be honest Porn Nerd...Obama woke up at home plate and had already been declared the home run king without ever doing anything in his life.

Trump is a brash, loud mouthed, New Yorker who is full of himself.
BUT...he is getting shit done and the economy is roaring at higher levels than Pres. Obama claimed were even possible.

That's the truth.

This year long melt down of the Media, Democrat Party, Establishment Republicans, and the millions of people whose feelings get hurt by mean old Trump's tweets? It's beyond boring at this point.

Can't you guys just wait?

No matter how good things are going now...sooner or later...something is gonna go bad. The economy will hit a bump. Stock market will take a dive. Etc., etc.

But folks like you are like the "boy who cried wolf" over and over and over.

So when the shit really does hit the fan...none of CNN's "Breaking News" is going to have much effect.
People have become desensitized to all the anti-Trump hysteria. It's a punchline to so may jokes I hear people telling at the gym, nightclubs, casinos, etc.

And here in Vegas...it's a very concentrated "melting pot" of people from all over the world and all walks of life on any given day on the strip.

The most common things I overhear are "snowflake" jokes and people laughing at Hollywood stars and their bombastic political "statements".

It's simply become too much.

People are numb to it now. And you, the media, the Democrats...all have no one to blame but yourselves for that.

I agree with almost all of this. Bush Cheney were corrupt war criminals. I voted for Obama the 2nd time (please don't tell anyone :) )

However, Trump pulled us out of the TPP. That was a good move for America. He's really delivered on his promises. Stock market all-time high. Unemployment all-time low. It's absurd to think that any of that is because Obama was so great. He wasn't. The democrat playbook is to keep people poor so they keep voting democrat. The proof? Just look at the large cities that have been controlled by Democrats for decades. Enough is enough

#MAGA

Trump flew the pride flag during the election then kicked out Trans soldiers from the military after becoming POTUS (though that move was legally reversed) Trump also did 2 other things to reverse Gay rights in America so Trump waving the rainbow flag was a deception to get votes.

I've never told you that I know what you believe better than you do. You're a deep thinker, you're not a party line talking points poster I don't treat you like I treat those posters.

My political baiting here is just that, most of the time lol. Like the thread I made of the SNL guy that got a Clinton tattoo. I'm mocking that guy I think it's funny and lame but I'm posting it to bait the Trump trolls here lol.

What I get from it is smacking down hate trolls by giving them their own spew back. That's all. Nothing deep and meaningful about my political trolling on GFY.

Robbie will never be honest, he lives in a fairland where Obama is the evil villain who can never do anything right..

Funny, democrats said something similar during the Carter Administration before Reagan took office.

The difference is now we actually have the technology to make it happen. I was a teenager in the 1980's and I remember everyone talking about how computers were going to take everyone's jobs. However, computers, the internet etc all enhanced our lives and ability to do things. Yes, they took some jobs, but they created many more. Automation isn't the same. It's not done to help enhance us and make us better, it is done to replace us.

It's not going to happen tomorrow or next year, but I won't be shocked if we see a collapse of the job market in the next 20 years as we start to find ourselves in situations where there simply aren't enough jobs for all the people who want one.

Reagan was the beginning of outsourcing jobs to China and Mexico.. Hell my uncle went to China on a special envoy for a farm tractor deal for the Reagan admin.

Why you people think Reagan was your jesus is fucking beyond me.. the guy crashed the economy with tax cuts and was forced to raise taxes.. Not to mention he was selling arms to terrorist...

Yep killed the garment district in ny. Also reagan did some of the largest tax increases in us history. Ollie North fell on his sword but what they did was treason.

Reagan weakened the unions, $20 an hour jobs suddenly became $10 an hour jobs. This was the beginning of the death of the middle class.

So in other words... 2 million kids did NOT lose "healthcare" and that was just ANOTHER lie.

Pathetic.

Doom and gloom Tony parroting the "Can't do" failure rhetoric of the Democrat Party designed to discourage people from trying to make a living and take care of themselves...thus giving Big Govt. control over their lives.

That whole line of thinking disgusts me.

Uneducated people have become some of the wealthiest businessmen in the world Tony.
From John Rockefeller (quit school at 16) and even EINSTEIN (high school dropout who later failed entry to university).

David Geffen dropped out of college. Had a fortune of 5.5 BILLION dollars.
Steve Jobs dropped out of Reed College.
Mark Zuckerberg dropped out of college.
John Paul DeJoria never went to college and was told by his high school councilor he would "never amount to anything". He is the founder of Paul Mitchell products and Patron alcohol...worth over 4 billion dollars.

And here's a nice list of tech innovators who never went to college:
14 Tech Superstars Who Didn't Need College To Become Billionaires - Business Insider

And if you read that last article you will see that billionaire Peter Thiel is paying kids $100,000 to drop OUT of school and start their own businesses.

Your statement is not only wrong...it's a full 180 degrees backwards.
Intelligence, ambition, drive, and a relentless work ethic is all you need. And with President Trump clearing the red tape of Federal regulation that kills new business...this is truly the land of opportunity.
The only people who will fail are the ones who listen to the kind of nonsense you just posted.

Come on already.....

"Obama?s so-called recovery included the longest period since the Great Depression with unemployment above 8%, 43 months, from February, 2009, when Obama?s so-called stimulus costing nearly $1 trillion was passed, until August, 2012. It also included the longest period since the Great Depression with unemployment at 9.0% or above, 30 months, from April, 2009, until September, 2011. "

Sure. He walked into office during a huge recession.

He is also the only president to cut unemployment by half during his term.

Says the man who comes off as the spokeman for the RNC but says he doesnt buy into either of the parties.

You list icons as examples. If anyone could do it, we wouldnt celebrate those people because then they would be nothing special.

You said he will bring the good jobs. A good job was, someone was able with a high school education to get a job where they could buy a house ,have a family, etc. Most of the people who voted for Trump believed that's what he was talking about. That's never happening , technology not Obama killed that.

Most of America doesn't want to be a business owner, they want to go to their job work hard and make a decent living. And there is nothing wrong with that, everyone is not cut out to be a business owner. You need workers in the mix.

Also this all regulations are bad, don't you like clean water? Or when you take a prescription that it is what says it is? Most of regulations he killed don't affect you unless you are drilling for oil. Most regulations that hurt small biz owners are state not federal. When I wanted to start a dog cookie business, it was state hoops I had to jump thru not fed and I live in a GOP state. I quote Alan Greenspan on lack of regulations. When asked about the mortgage collapse. He said I thought they would police themselves.

Peter Thiel a very educated man(BA and JD), who wouldnt hire anyone without a degree says you dont need degrees.

He is right if you been programming since you were 10 yrs old . That kid doesnt need a degree but that's not who Trump was talking to on the campaign trail,we both know that.

...before Reagan took office - cutted the tax, paid 100% of the lost with new debts and the first balanced US-household after that was, after clinton increased the tax again.

you guys whould learn not to look only on your stockmarkets as THE indicator of your economy. you should learn to understand from whom this sudden money-rain is paid.

since more than 50 years America buys artificial surplus and repays it with interest.

time to realize that IN ALL CASES the day will come to pay back what you owe.
this day was moved from year to year forward and the mountain is becoming bigger and bigger. no mountain can grow over the sky.

if you really want a president who tells you the truth first learn to accept the truth.
but instead of accepting the truth you prefer to have a bigger liar who will tell you that he can make wine from water.
i don´t know how long you can enjoy such a believe because it will not come true.

AND such a depression is the one and only acceptable reason to rise debts and warm up the economy. but as soon this is done the goal should be to lower the depts.

germany with all it´s strong economy went through the same disaster and they spend billions in new debts to reactivate the markets and the economy.
and there is still a zero interest policy but germany is next to france, the netherlands and
a few other european countries one of this countries where the dept clock goes backward.

when the next crisis comes (and it will come) this countries are able to push money in their markets again. US will not be able to do that a few times more.

Let's not forget he was also the 1st sitting president to ever double the national debt with no active war..


But ohh lord al mighty, Reagan the Republican Jesus god.. fuck right wingers are gullible fucks..

I completely disagree with this. The median household income for my town is $70k (Vegas is $58k) and I would like to think this is all middle class. We all have nice middle class suburban homes with two or more cars.

Exactly.

Now tRUMP is going to be launching a trillion dollar infrastructure project. I am all for this, but we just jacked up the deficit in a bigly way... how are we going to pay for this?

They have already made it clear they are going to go after Social Security.



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that was campaign numbers : a lie

the actual amount that he is putting forward is 200 billion over 10 years ....

That's the truth. I started at GM on the line in the 80's at $11 an hour. That's what most nonunion factories start at today. I dont think it has the same spending power.

what this people do not understand is that every penny saved on social security will be paid triple in social aid at the end.

people who REALLY think they do not have to pay into a big insurance pot BECAUSE THEY ARE HEALTHY will be exactly the ones what will need this aid in the day when they get sick.

so what kind of system shall that be at the end ?
enjoy your life as long as you are healthy and when you start to get sick we give you a 2-dollar zyankali pill ????

i really DO understand that the social security and especially the healthcare is a big financial load for the usa but WHY is this?

this is because this system brainwash people to call it "freedom" when a pharma company is allowed to rob the weakest of the society.
a system where the same medicine what you can buy all over the world cost 10, 20 50 times more. as system where a hospital is not public welfare and part of citizens prosperity it is a money machine with the right to let you die when you can not pay the price.

i am in thailand at the moment and i got stung from a mosquito and unfortunately i catched a bad dengue fever.

since now 8 days i go to the best and most modern hospital around here. something what you will not find over europe and i am sure not even in USA.
i had:

1. day a lot of blood examine (7 pages result)
2 x 45 minutes EXECELLLENT doctor who explained me everything in details.
medis for fever decreasing
vitamin b complex medis
vitamin c
pain medicaments
sleeping pills

day 2 - 8 i went there to blood examines every day - saw the doctor like 30 minutes EVERY TIME - got more medis and cremes.

up to now I paid for all that aproximately 105 dollar (what i will get back fully from my insurance).

all doctors there where studying in europe or usa !

so how can that be ?
how much would i pay for that in USA 10.000, 20.000 ????

the social system is not struggling on the costs for health insurance - it is struggling on legalized robbing.

ask americans with diabetes why they are flying to canada to get their insulin there. the SAME INSULIN what is produced in USA... because it costs a fraction.

america is sick because the mafia is legal. no matter if they are in healthcare or if tzhey are in financial services.
obama tried to stop that as much as he was able with the todd frank act but even that little security was reversed by trump.

look what this fucker have to say about donald trump:

"Doland Trump is a dream for business people like me..."



This same fucker is the one what increased the price for a drug called "Daraprim" (a med against toxoplasmosis) from 13,50 US to 750,-- DOLLAR overnight.

yes and he have all reason to love trump because he can be sure that trump will not do a thing against this ripp off.

this is not freedom - this is another form of slavery where people are trained not to realize that they are eaten alive.
the problem is the amount of widespread stupidity that makes people to such proud blinded cattle.

To paraphrase Luke Skywalker in "The Last Jedi": Everything you just said is wrong, and nothing you said is the way it's going to work.

But of course you won't see that. You are so wrapped up in being a card-carrying Democrat that you are even willing to buy into their mantra of doom and gloom.

Sorry Tony...as much as you hate it...the country is on the way to prosperity and people are going to have opportunity again.

Too bad you didn't ask that same question with ObamaCare.

Are any of the snowflake crew gonna address the original premise of this entire post?

The LIE that 2 million kids were going to "lose healthcare"?

This is what you people have become...hysterical and deranged.

You toss out lies...and then just devolve the conversation outward into every deranged, hate-filled theory on Trump you have in your fevered brains.

Give it a rest.

You are in a moment of economic prosperity and opportunity.

History shows these periods don't last.
Enjoy it while it's here and stop being so negative about everything

NOBODY has ever been successful by being negative.

It turns out they did in fact fund the CHIP account - barely.

When I say "barely" I mean it took them four months to partially fund the account on a temporary basis. Because, you know, it was much more important for Congress to lower taxes for the rich while trying to take away healthcare for thirteen million people.

Why Robbie? Why couldn't they just fully fund the account instead of partially funding it, only to have to do this again in four months? They clearly have the money - they have no problems raising the deficit - why not just do it?

I mean... What can be more important healthcare for children?

Hey, shitlibs. Life expectancy went down after Obamacare was put into law, any ideas on that?

https://www.investors.com/politics/e...ine-obamacare/