Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22169932)

BTW why the fuck ya worried about Anthrax and Ebola when Kims got VX and used it? Its not a matter of if he has..

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22169920)

The best thing that was made is Ebolapox - a genetic mix of Anthrax and Ebola: Biopreparat - Wikipedia

Don't know if NK has it...

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22168396)

So Bill Clinton gave north korea nukes, Obama gave Iran nukes, Hillary gave Russia our uranium, but clueless libs think Trump is going to start a nuclear war?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA

I suppose you guys think Kim J is the leader of NK? Haha haha you still haven't figured out who the puppet master is. :1orglaugh

:pimp

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22169959)

it is only logical that people will try to find alternative means of warfare, fuck trying to catch up with the military industrial complex when all you need is 1 amp of bacteria to wipe a whole country out...this is the legacy of US foreign policy: unconventional escalation...

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22170025)

is that how you became sterilized?

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22169932)

China will be 1, India 2 and Indonesia and USA can fight out for 3rd and with less than 400 million population, America will just slide more from there.
I can't see America or Americans adjusting to that new world order.

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22169932)

NK is only a thorn in the side of the real war coming.. China Vs USA and that is inevitable as the rising of the sun, its just a matter of when the shooting action starts, because the war has most certainly already started.

Simply based on populations, ie: you can't fight it, USA is going to fall from number one earning country in the next 15 years, then to 3rd or 4th in the following 15. China will be 1, India 2 and Indonesia and USA can fight out for 3rd and with less than 400 million population, America will just slide more from there.

I can't see America or Americans adjusting to that new world order.

Scary thing is even if there's war.. it still happens.

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We know that twice in the past week, there's been civilian nuclear threat warnings in Japan and Hawaii, I'd guess the military on both sides would have the same error margin. The USA is certainly putting blind faith in hoping NK can detect a real attack from a fake one.

Whole scenario is a clusterfuck waiting to happen.


BTW why the fuck ya worried about Anthrax and Ebola when Kims got VX and used it? Its not a matter of if he has..

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22170097)

15 years?

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22170022)

Please, you haven't even figured out how to crack that evasive code of how to get a job that pays at least minimum wage yet.

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22170148)

15 Or less is the prediction

China Will Have a Larger Economy Than the U.S. by 2030, Study Says | Fortune

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2...china-economy/

The only thing that was on the table to slow it was TTP, and that was cancelled so China surged 10 years over night, ya all realised then when you voted Trump in right?, he's fucked the USA forever. Last deal took 7 years to put together, in another 7 years, its way too fucking late.

Chinas adding 850 million to the second class, that has profound trading changes coming world wide. Its all out there you can look up your own info, but base it purely on the math, because that doesn't lie and its inescapable.

350 million population @ 4% max GDP ( USA ) can not compete with one of 1.4 billion at 6.5% GDP, and USA cant do zip about it because your only major growing export market is.. China. The only reason the USA has a huge trade imbalance now is American companies are deadest on trying to sell the Chinese, what they can make themselves. But as that population boom comes into play it's irrelevant really, you simply don't have the population, nor the trade partners ( cos someone's pissed them off, and they have all done their own deals )

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22170958)

Well I hate to break up your USA hate fest but that doesn't really tell the whole picture. GDP per capita is a better gauge to measure the standard of living and China is so far behind the USA.

Besides, you're ranting and raving about China's GDP compared to the US but you do know China has 4 1/2 times the population of the US..right?

And I can guarantee you nobody in the USA is losing sleep over China overtaking us in GDP
...NOBODY lol

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22170997)

It's not about individuals or standard of living, its about a Governments ability to push agendas on other countries.

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22171021)

I don't think if Chinese will fix poverty in their country during 15 years

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22171114)

Че??? :1orglaugh Средняя зарпплата в Китае в два раза выше, чем в России. Ты куришь какую-то хуйню? Нюхаешь или колишся?

https://marafonec.livejournal.com/3587965.html

https://www.yaplakal.com/forum2/topic1330928.html

https://lenta.ru/articles/2015/09/15/wages/

Originally Posted by sarn (Post 22171138)

Так я про нас и не говорил

Originally Posted by cyberseo (Post 22171144)

И не говори. Китай - вполне себе богатая страна, а Россия где нефть, лес, газ увсе у нас - страна нищебродов и рабов, которых Вован крутит на хую как хочет.

Originally Posted by sarn (Post 22171162)

Всех же всё устраивает, голосуют за него. У него там производство в китае своё как у всего современного эстеблишмента.

Originally Posted by cyberseo (Post 22171168)

За кого "него"? За старого любителя детских животиков на три цуня ниже пупка? Основной кандидат вообще на выборы недопущен.

Originally Posted by sarn (Post 22171171)

Это мальчик для битья.

Originally Posted by cyberseo (Post 22171186)

Путин ?

Originally Posted by sarn (Post 22171195)

Овальный.Да и вся эта марионеточная опозиция.

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 22240347)

Closing towards mid spring :)

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 22240361)

As quoted by me in this thread. "Their only option is to stop testing or we will attack them, period."

It appears they are taking this option or at least going to stall for time as they know as I know that we were preparing to attack them this spring.

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22171138)

:1orglaugh
https://cdn.jpg.wtf/futurico/1e/90/1...f78e2b4294.png

Так я про нас и не говорил :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 22167598)

is this. The U.S. will attack North Korea in early to mid Spring.

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22240472)

I'm curious how many adidas tracksuits do you have?

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22240614)

Will never happen. The US will never ever forever attack a country which has nukes. Americans has no balls for that. Even midgets with sticks from Vietnam were able to defeat America. You spend too much money for your army which just doesn't work. The crazy NK fanatics will kick your ass for sure and there is no doubt.

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 22240879)

Don't need to. They won't attack either. We can destabilize them and degrade their ability until their own people turn on them.

In this case, Trump has til early summer for a non-war solution. Then he will attack conventional.

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 22240879)

Don't need to. They won't attack either. We can destabilize them and degrade their ability until their own people turn on them.

In this case, Trump has til early summer for a non-war solution. Then he will attack conventional.

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 22240879)

Don't need to. They won't attack either. We can destabilize them and degrade their ability until their own people turn on them.

In this case, Trump has til early summer for a non-war solution. Then he will attack conventional.

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22241019)

You said "destabilize"? Destabilize a regime of crazy fanatics? Really? You are such a dreamer...

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22241097)

you guys are nuts LOL


I feel so sorry for korea that the USA is getting involved...each US intervention is a 300% disaster...the USA never ever wins...it just fucks shit up even more....I mean kim has ebola/chemicals/nukes and he WILL fire if you attack him....only a delusional person would expect a quick and painless conventional attack...

the USA is going to fuck this one up soooooo bad...and then theres trump LOL...the world will unite against the USA you will see :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh the USA simply can not stop eating shit...

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22241416)

Chinese army fast fix this destabilisation. Will use few gas attack and all will be end.

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 22241719)

You may saaaaaaay I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one ....

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22241751)

In this case even John would not agree with you... The NK guys are fanatics. They are real crazy, so there will be no easy war against them.

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 22241719)

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Now China is a serious opponent, you're correct. I didn't mean China. China the US cannot destabilize. Despite what others say I don't think USA could defeat China and Russia together, even in a defensive war. Also, the USA has a serious problem, and I believe there is a 43% chance of civil war or a cold civil war. China has no such issue.

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 22241719)

Yes, we'll see. I don't see how the US still has highest GDP, most powerful, etc. Perhaps they haven't learned of your global binding judgment from the ***SUPREME COURT of CRUCIFISSIO*** When they do there will be great wailing and gnashing of teeth, and crops will wither and babes fall lifeless from their mother's teats.

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22241820)

well look at it like this, there is a very high chance NK will use nukes/chem/bacteria if they are attacked...in such a scenario the shit will hit the fan...the USA will nuke them 100%...

china is not going to like its back yard nuked...
south korea will be radioactive
ebola will be in asia
russia will chuckle

the rest world will not have a positive opinion to say the least...the EU is already getting proxy fucked by US foreign policy, tump is a moron etc...

my theory is not far fetched at all...I am positive that I will live to see the world turn its back on the USA...

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22241978)

I don't think NK has Ebola, the maximum is they've anthrax. anthrax can be neutralized by high temperature. :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22241998)

if some x country was attacking yours, and you were losing, and you had nuke/chem/bio would you use it when all else fails? of course you would...I do not know what makes americans think that an invasion of NK will be a walk in the park...

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22241978)

I don't think NK has Ebola, the maximum is they've anthrax. anthrax can be neutralized by high temperature. :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 22242028)

When a country is destabilized, it quickly falls apart and people stop obeying orders and start looking to save themselves.

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 22242028)

No, that isn't what history has shown us. When a country is destabilized, it quickly falls apart and people stop obeying orders and start looking to save themselves. It isn't a single person, it is a group held together by fear. When the power to enforce dissolves, the fear turns to anger and self interest. A nuclear response is a complex chain, and any link being non-responsive will result in the failure to launch.

Nihilism is always the hope of the powerless; in this case it is empty. Worst case scenario negotiations fail, and war happens by summer. Lots of people will die but the US will be lauded, not reviled.

The only hope you have for the world turning its back on the US is the internal issues the US has, which weaken it greatly. Ironically, the international tension actually holds the US together by allowing its people to group against criticism.

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22242035)

Ebola is joke as a military weapon. I do believe they have Ebolapox which is a real deadly one. NK will definitely use it against the USA or any other country.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-drLaTs6K2m...0/smallpox.jpg

And there is no cure of this thing...



What do you mean on "destabilization"? Every internal pressure just unite the people inside the country. Do you know that before the "sanctions" there was a huge ani-Putin movement? It really was, 100's of citizens came to the streets to protest. But when Obama has started his "sanction" campaign... Putin has got a lot of support in Russia. This is how your "destabilization" works in the real world.

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22241998)

if some x country was attacking yours, and you were losing, and you had nuke/chem/bio would you use it when all else fails? of course you would...I do not know what makes americans think that an invasion of NK will be a walk in the park...

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22242035)

Ebola is joke as a military weapon. I do believe they have Ebolapox which is a real deadly one. NK will definitely use it against the USA or any other country.
...

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 22242028)

No, that isn't what history has shown us. When a country is destabilized, it quickly falls apart and people stop obeying orders and start looking to save themselves. It isn't a single person, it is a group held together by fear. When the power to enforce dissolves, the fear turns to anger and self interest. A nuclear response is a complex chain, and any link being non-responsive will result in the failure to launch.
...

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 22242028)

...
Nihilism is always the hope of the powerless; in this case it is empty. Worst case scenario negotiations fail, and war happens by summer. Lots of people will die but the US will be lauded, not reviled.
The only hope you have for the world turning its back on the US is the internal issues the US has, which weaken it greatly. Ironically, the international tension actually holds the US together by allowing its people to group against criticism.

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22242040)

It is really hard to tell who is more out of touch with reality, north koreans or americans who think they will just walk in to NK and NK will not use bacteria/chemical/nukes...that ebolapox shit may spread to the whole world...all it takes is a few sleeper agents in select countries to open a vial in a subway...

worst case scenario: sleeper agent opens ebolapox in china for example...ebolapox spreads to china/russia/india etc...russia takes devastating losses because the USA simply could not fuck off and stay home...russia will launch 100% and so will china and india...

I really hope I am wrong...

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 22167598)

is this. The U.S. will attack North Korea in early to mid Spring. I draw this conclusion based upon multiple sources of information, some of which is public, some which isn't and some from my own military knowledge.

I also predict that the military engagement will be swift, less than a month, very possibly just days, and if things go well the loss of life will be relatively minor but it could, admittedly, become a massive loss of both North and South Korean lives.